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Talk:Ghost (type)

2009-11-10T05:59:47Z

Crystal Shards:

== Trivia ==
Trivia section currently states: "Ghost and Psychic are the only two types that are weak to the same types: Ghost and Dark. "
I could understand that in two ways, and both are wrong (I guess, that's why I try to discuss it here)
1 - They are the only types who share all their weaknesses. That would be wrong, since Psychic is weak to Bug, and Ghost is not.
2 - They are the only two types who share more than one weakness. Also wrong, since, for instance, Ground and Rock are weak against Grass and Water.
If I misunderstood it, please let me know. Or if anyone agrees, I'd be glad to see I'm not useless ;) [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:it didn't say that they share ''all'' the same weaknesses [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 22:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, but it says they are the '''only two types''' that are weak to the same types. So, they aren't the '''only''' because there are others who share same weaknesses [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::That trivia, and some other icky ones, have been removed now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Neutrality ==

I am questioning the neutrality of the characteristics section. It is very biased towards ghost types. I would add the template, but I am... unskilled. [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 01:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Type Combo ==
I think it should be worth noting that if a Normal/Ghost type is ever introduced, it would be the only Pokémon immune to both it's types. {{unsigned|Chaos Theory}}
:There isn't one though, and writing hypothetically opens up so many cans of worms. Until a Normal/Ghost Pokémon is created, you can keep that thought in your head. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Quick Question ==
I could have sworn playing RBY that Psychic moves do 2x damage on Ghost Pokemon. Am I completely misguided here? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 05:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive4

2009-08-05T01:35:12Z

Crystal Shards:

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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2009-08-04T22:42:03Z

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you.

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive4

2009-08-04T16:52:19Z

Crystal Shards:

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Crystal Shards

2009-08-04T03:07:45Z

Crystal Shards:

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・[mailto:admin@mercuryice.com Email] 
・AIM: crystalnshards 
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・Website: [http://mercuryice.com Mercury Ice] 
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===Biography===

'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior. She enjoys tennis, soccer, reading, and writing, and absolutely loves her website, Mercury Ice.

If you have a question, write on her talk page!

Talk:Shinx (Pokémon)

2009-08-03T23:57:01Z

Crystal Shards:

Anyone think that Shinx looks an aweful lot like the classic anime character Kimba the Lion?[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion] [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]]

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Wouldn't be surprised if it were an intended reference. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that the name is just Sphinx without the "p". And the Kolink is based on "ko", ''child'' and the English word "[[wikipedia:Lynx|Lynx]]". --[[User:Stinkoman|Stinkoman]] 19:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== About some certain trivia... ==

"When Shinx's letters are capitalized and flipped upside down, its letters remain the same."

I don't think so. This note is wrong because the letter "N" appears backwards under the aforementioned circumstances. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 01:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing
:Who even bothered writing it in the first place? That's about the most pointless of all the bad trivia I've seen.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
::What about those {{p|Arceus}}-based stat comparisons? Those bug ''me'' the most. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 19:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing

== Shinx Suit? ==
Has anyone else noticed that Shinx looks like it's wearing a tux? Bowtie, black pants, cufflinks...... Not sure if that even means anything, but it's interesting. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 23:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Sinnoh Route 227

2009-08-03T23:51:08Z

Crystal Shards:

{{RouteInfo
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|size=290
|image=Route 227.PNG
|alternate_name=
|type=land
|direction_a=North
|terminus_a=[[Stark Mountain]]
|direction_b=South
|terminus_b={{rt|226}}
|regionmap=Sinnoh.PNG
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
|junction=None
|before=226
|after=228
}}

'''Route 227''' is a [[route]] in [[Sinnoh]] that connects [[Stark Mountain]] and [[Route 226]].
Along this route, there is a house where players can visit to heal their Pokémon. It is located in the southern end of the route, just before ascending the first mountainous area. As the player navigates the route, ash falls from the mountains.

There is a house here where the [[Player]] can rest their Pokémon before moving on to Stark Mountain. The first time the Player comes here, he or she will run into [[Crasher Wake]] and his/her [[Pearl (game)|Rival]] having a discussion.

==Items==
* [[Type-enhancing item#Charcoal|Charcoal]]
* [[Vitamin#Zinc|Zinc]]
* [[Status ailment healing item#Full Heal|Full Heal]]: hidden between the ponds
* [[Vitamin#Protein|Protein]]: hidden in the rock on the western side, accessible via [[Stark Mountain]]

==Pokémon==
{{Catchableheader|land}}
{{Catchtime|All}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|{{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|15%}}
{{Catchentry4|110|Weezing|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|52|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|111|Rhyhorn|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|22-24|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|52|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|112|Rhydon|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|54|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|227|Skarmory|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|56|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|322|Numel|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|22-24|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|323|Camerupt|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchtime|Morning}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|15%}}
{{Catchtime|Day}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|15%}}
{{Catchtime|Night}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|354|Banette|yes|yes|no|Grass|54|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|042|Golbat|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchtime|Special}}
{{Catchentry4|327|Spinda|yes|yes|yes|[[Swarms]]|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53-54|Platinum}}|40%}}
{{Catchentry4|324|Torkoal|yes|yes|yes|[[Poké Radar]]|{{tt|24-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|22%}}
{{Catchentry4|240|Magby|yes|yes|no|Dongle|22|8%|LG}}
{{Catchentry4|207|Gligar|yes|yes|no|Dongle|22|8%|E}}
{{Catchtime|SurfFish}}
{{Catchentry4|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|yes|Surfing|20-30|30%}}
{{Catchentry4|061|Poliwhirl|yes|yes|yes|Surfing|40-55|70%}}
{{Catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Old Rod|3-10|100%}}
{{Catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Good Rod|10-25|65%}}
{{Catchentry4|339|Barboach|yes|yes|yes|Good Rod|10-25|35%}}
{{Catchtime|AfterNatDex}}
{{Catchentry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|yes|Super Rod|30-55|65%}}
{{Catchentry4|340|Whiscash|yes|yes|yes|Super Rod|20-50|35%}}
{{Catchablefooter}}

==Trainers==
===Diamond and Pearl===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|Ace Trainer|Saul|3300|1|128|Tauros|♂|55|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Pokémon_Ranger_F.png|Pokémon Ranger|Felicia|3420|2|108|Lickitung|♀|57|None|288|Vigoroth|♀|57|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|Ace Trainer|Mikayla|3360|3|052|Meowth|♀|56|None|053|Persian|♀|56|None|097|Hypno|♀|56|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Black_Belt.png|Black Belt|Griffin|1368|2|332|Cacturne|♂|57|None|068|Machamp|♂|57|None}}
{{trainerfooter}}

===Platinum===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|Ace Trainer|Saul||1|128|Tauros|♂|61|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Pokémon_Ranger_F.png|Pokémon Ranger|Felicia||2|188|Skiploom||59|None|428|Lopunny||59|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|Ace Trainer|Mikayla||3|336|Seviper||56|None|053|Persian||56|None|359|Absol||56|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Black_Belt.png|Black Belt|Griffin||2|286|Breloom||58|None|308|Medicham||58|None}}
{{trainerfooter}}

{{route stub}}
{{Sinnoh}}
{{Project Routes notice}}
[[Category:Sinnoh locations|Route 227]]
[[Category:Routes|Route 227]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations|Route 227]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]

[[de:Route 227]]
[[ja:227ばんどうろ]]

Sinnoh Route 227

2009-08-03T23:49:17Z

Crystal Shards:

{{RouteInfo
|article_route=227
|size=290
|image=Route 227.PNG
|alternate_name=
|type=land
|direction_a=North
|terminus_a=[[Stark Mountain]]
|direction_b=South
|terminus_b={{rt|226}}
|regionmap=Sinnoh.PNG
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
|junction=None
|before=226
|after=228
}}

'''Route 227''' is a [[route]] in [[Sinnoh]] that connects [[Stark Mountain]] and [[Route 226]].
Along this route, there is a house where players can visit to heal their Pokémon. It is located in the southern end of the route, just before ascending the first mountainous area. There is a house here where the [[Player]] can rest their Pokémon before moving on to Stark Mountain. The first time the Player comes here, he or she will run into [[Crasher Wake]] and his/her [[Pearl (game)|Rival]] having a discussion.

==Items==
* [[Type-enhancing item#Charcoal|Charcoal]]
* [[Vitamin#Zinc|Zinc]]
* [[Status ailment healing item#Full Heal|Full Heal]]: hidden between the ponds
* [[Vitamin#Protein|Protein]]: hidden in the rock on the western side, accessible via [[Stark Mountain]]

==Pokémon==
{{Catchableheader|land}}
{{Catchtime|All}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|{{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|15%}}
{{Catchentry4|110|Weezing|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|52|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|111|Rhyhorn|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|22-24|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|52|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|112|Rhydon|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|54|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|227|Skarmory|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|56|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|322|Numel|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|22-24|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51|Platinum}}|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|323|Camerupt|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchtime|Morning}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|15%}}
{{Catchtime|Day}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|15%}}
{{Catchtime|Night}}
{{Catchentry4|022|Fearow|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|075|Graveler|yes|yes|no|Grass|54-56|5%}}
{{Catchentry4|354|Banette|yes|yes|no|Grass|54|10%}}
{{Catchentry4|042|Golbat|yes|yes|yes|Grass|{{tt|54|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51|Platinum}}|10%}}
{{Catchtime|Special}}
{{Catchentry4|327|Spinda|yes|yes|yes|[[Swarms]]|{{tt|55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|53-54|Platinum}}|40%}}
{{Catchentry4|324|Torkoal|yes|yes|yes|[[Poké Radar]]|{{tt|24-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|51-53|Platinum}}|22%}}
{{Catchentry4|240|Magby|yes|yes|no|Dongle|22|8%|LG}}
{{Catchentry4|207|Gligar|yes|yes|no|Dongle|22|8%|E}}
{{Catchtime|SurfFish}}
{{Catchentry4|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|yes|Surfing|20-30|30%}}
{{Catchentry4|061|Poliwhirl|yes|yes|yes|Surfing|40-55|70%}}
{{Catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Old Rod|3-10|100%}}
{{Catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Good Rod|10-25|65%}}
{{Catchentry4|339|Barboach|yes|yes|yes|Good Rod|10-25|35%}}
{{Catchtime|AfterNatDex}}
{{Catchentry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|yes|Super Rod|30-55|65%}}
{{Catchentry4|340|Whiscash|yes|yes|yes|Super Rod|20-50|35%}}
{{Catchablefooter}}

==Trainers==
===Diamond and Pearl===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|Ace Trainer|Saul|3300|1|128|Tauros|♂|55|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Pokémon_Ranger_F.png|Pokémon Ranger|Felicia|3420|2|108|Lickitung|♀|57|None|288|Vigoroth|♀|57|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|Ace Trainer|Mikayla|3360|3|052|Meowth|♀|56|None|053|Persian|♀|56|None|097|Hypno|♀|56|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Black_Belt.png|Black Belt|Griffin|1368|2|332|Cacturne|♂|57|None|068|Machamp|♂|57|None}}
{{trainerfooter}}

===Platinum===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|Ace Trainer|Saul||1|128|Tauros|♂|61|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Pokémon_Ranger_F.png|Pokémon Ranger|Felicia||2|188|Skiploom||59|None|428|Lopunny||59|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|Ace Trainer|Mikayla||3|336|Seviper||56|None|053|Persian||56|None|359|Absol||56|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Black_Belt.png|Black Belt|Griffin||2|286|Breloom||58|None|308|Medicham||58|None}}
{{trainerfooter}}

{{route stub}}
{{Sinnoh}}
{{Project Routes notice}}
[[Category:Sinnoh locations|Route 227]]
[[Category:Routes|Route 227]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations|Route 227]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]

[[de:Route 227]]
[[ja:227ばんどうろ]]

Weepinbell (Pokémon)

2009-08-02T19:32:32Z

Crystal Shards: /* By leveling up */

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | type2=poison | prevnum=069 | nextnum=071 | prev=Bellsprout | next=Victreebel }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Weepinbell |
jname=ウツドン |
tmname=Utsudon |
image=070Weepinbell.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
pron=<sc>''wee''-''pin''-''bell''</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
ndex=070 |
jdex=065 |
hdex=251 |
fdex=005 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Poison |
species=Flycatcher |
height-ftin=3'03" |
height-m=1.0 |
weight-lbs=14.1 |
weight-kg=6.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Chlorophyll |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Plant |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20|
evat=2|
expyield=151 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127|
color=Green |
catchrate=120 |
body=05 |
pokefordex=weepinbell |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Weepinbell''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ウツドン''' ''Utsudon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Grass|Poison}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Bellsprout}} starting at [[level]] 21, and evolves into {{p|Victreebel}} via {{stone|Leaf Stone}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Weepinbell has a yellow, bell-shaped body and a wide, gaping mouth. It has green, razor sharp, leafy appendages, which droop like the leaves of a weeping plant. Weepinbell also has a brown hook at the rear of its head which may be a remnant of the roots of its previous form.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Weepinbell has an extremely potent internal {{m|acid}} which has the ability to dissolve almost anything within seconds. Weepinbell also oozes a neutralizing fluid which prevents its internal acids from melting it.

===Behavior===
Weepinbell camouflage themselves as plants in the forest whilst awaiting an unwary victim. When its prey draws near the Weepinbell sprays toxic pollen to immobilize the target before melting it with it's internal acids. Weepinbell hangs from tree branches by its brown hook as it sleeps. If it moves around during sleep, Weepinbell may slip and awaken to find itself on the ground.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Forest.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Forest Pokémon}}]]
Weepinbell live in forests, as well as tropical jungles and swamps where the ground is rich in nutrients. They can also occasionally be found in caves, near sources of underground water.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

Weepinbell is less of a picky eater than its previous form, as it will attempt to eat anything that passes near it. If a foe is too large to fit in Weepinbell's mouth it will use its razor sharp leaves to slice its meal into smaller pieces.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Jamesweep2.PNG|thumb|right|210px|{{TP|James|Weepinbell|second Victreebel}} in the anime]]
Weepinbell first appeared in ''[[EP009|The School of Hard Knocks]]''. It was owned by {{ka|Joe}}.

A Weepinbell was also used by [[Erika]] against {{Ash}} during the [[Celadon City]] [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}} in ''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation!]]''.

[[James]] had two separate Weepinbell, both of which evolved into {{TP|James|Victreebel}}.

A differently patterned Weepinbell appeared in ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]''.

A Weepinbell was used by one of the students of the [[Pokémon Trainer's School]] in ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]''.

Weepinbell are used in [[Bonitaville]] {{pkmn|Beauty Contest}} in ''[[EP169|Beauty and the Breeder]]''.

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Weepinbell (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|type2=poison
|gen=1
|redbluedex=It spits out {{M|PoisonPowder}} to immobilize the enemy and then finishes it with a spray of {{M|Acid}}.
|yellowdex=When hungry, it swallows anything that moves. Its hapless prey is melted inside by strong acids.
|stadiumdex=Armed with razor-sharp leaves, it uses toxic pollen to immobilize its enemy and melts the helpless foe with {{M|acid}}.
|golddex=Even though it is filled with acid, it does not melt because it also oozes a neutralizing fluid.
|silverdex=If its prey is bigger than its mouth, it slices up the victim with sharp leaves, then eats every morsel.
|crystaldex=When it's hungry, it swings its razor-sharp leaves, slicing up any unlucky object nearby for food.
|stadium2dex=Even though it is filled with acid, it does not melt because it also oozes a neutralizing fluid.
|rubydex=Weepinbell has a large hook on its rear end. At night, the Pokémon hooks on to a tree branch and goes to sleep. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|sapphiredex=Weepinbell has a large hook on its rear end. At night, the Pokémon hooks on to a tree branch and goes to sleep. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|emeralddex=At night, a Weepinbell hangs on to a tree branch with its hooked rear and sleeps. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|firereddex=The leafy parts act as cutters for slashing foes. It spits a fluid that dissolves everything.
|leafgreendex=It spits out {{M|PoisonPowder}} to immobilize the enemy and then finishes it with a spray of {{M|Acid}}.
|diamonddex=A Pokémon that appears to be a plant. It captures unwary prey by dousing them with a toxic powder.
|pearldex=A Pokémon that appears to be a plant. It captures unwary prey by dousing them with a toxic powder.
|platinumdex=A Pokémon that appears to be a plant. It captures unwary prey by dousing them with a toxic powder.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Grass |
type2=Poison |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Rare |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, and {{rtn|15}} |
gen1ex=blue|
yrarity=Rare |
yarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, [[Cerulean Cave]] |
gsrarity=Rare |
gsarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}} |
crarity=Rare |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}} |
gen3ex=frlg |
frlgrarity=Uncommon |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, and {{rtn|15}}, [[Berry Forest]], [[Bond Bridge]], [[Cape Brink]], [[Water Path]] |
frlgex=leafgreen|
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Cipher Key Lair]] ([[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]) |
dprarity=Common |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|224}}, {{rtn|229}}, and {{rtn|230}} |
ptrarity=? |
ptarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|224}} and {{rtn|230}} |
palarea=Forest |
|}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=grass
|type2=poison
|snap=[[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]]
|trozei=Secret Storage 2 Mr. Who's Den
|md=Evolve from {{p|Bellsprout}}
|ranger=[[Lyra Forest]]
|md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (B1-B13) [[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29)
}}

===Held items===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Items
|-
| {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}
| [[Berry]] ([[Time Capsule|trade]] from [[Generation I]])
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=65 |
Attack=90 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=85 |
SpDef=45 |
Special=85 |
Speed=55 |
type=Grass |
type2=Poison }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
type2=poison|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 200 |
Fighting= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
gen1poison=yes|
oldgrass=¼|
oldbug=4}}

===Learnset===
{{evolved learnset intro|Weepinbell}}

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|grass|poison|4|1|Weepinbell}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Vine Whip|Grass|Physical|35|100|15|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Wrap|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|7|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|11|Wrap|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|13|Sleep Powder|Grass|Status|—|75|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|15|PoisonPowder|Poison|Status|—|75|35|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Stun Spore|Grass|Status|—|75|30|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|23|Acid|Poison|Special|40|100|30|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|27|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|29|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|35|Gastro Acid|Poison|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|39|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|41|Slam|Normal|Physical|80|75|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|47|Wring Out|Normal|Special|—|100|5|Smart|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass|poison}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|poison|4|1|Weepinbell}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM36]]|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass|poison}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|grass|poison|4|1|Weepinbell}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}}|Encore|Normal|Status|—|100|5|Cute|1|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Carnivine}} {{p|Snover}}, {{p|Abomasnow}}|Ingrain|Grass|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}}|Leech Life|Bug|Physical|20|100|15|Smart|1|}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Tropius}}|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}}|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Tangela}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Bellossom}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Breloom}} {{p|Roselia}} {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Cacturne}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Tangrowth}}|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}} , {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}} {{p|Hoppip}}, {{p|Skiploom}}, {{p|Jumpluff}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Breloom}} {{p|Cherubi}}, {{p|Cherrim}}|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|3|grass|poison}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|grass|poison|4|1|Weepinbell}}
{{mtentry4|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Gastro Acid|Poison|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|Smart|3|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1|||yes|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0|||yes|yes|no|no|no}}
{{mtentry4|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|grass|poison}}

====Special moves====
{{Shadow moves|070|32|Shadow Hold|Shadow Rave|--|--|Morning Sun|Normal|Magical Leaf|Grass|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Sweet Scent|Normal|xd|grass|poison}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=070 |
Pinevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=-19% |
area=Jungle |
P1= I can melt anything with the fluid in my mouth! |
P2= Watch out--my health is down to half. |
P3= I can't... My mouth has dried... |
PL= There we go! I leveled up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Grass |
typeA= Poison |
fieldpower= 0 |
field= None |
loop=6 |
MinEXP=42 |
MaxEXP=56 |
browser= Weepinbell swallows unwary people and spits them back from where they came. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10% |
iq=G |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/2|069|Bellsprout|2|Grass|Poison|[[Level|Level 21]]|070|Weepinbell|2|Grass|Poison|[[Leaf Stone]]|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
type2=poison|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=070|
name=Weepinbell|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Weepinbell and the others in its evolutionary line may be based upon carnivorous {{wp|pitcher plant}}s.

====Name origin====
Weepinbell's name seems to be be a combination of ''bell'', referring to its bell-like shape, and ''weeping''. A weeping plant is one that droops. Its Japanese name is based on 靫葛 ''utsubokazura'', or "pitcher plant".

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Ultrigaria
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Boustiflor - From ''boustifaille'' (grub) and ''{{wp|flora}}.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 우츠동 ''Ucheudong''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 口呆花

==External links==

==Notes==
<references />

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | type2=poison | prevnum=069 | nextnum=071 | prev=Bellsprout | next=Victreebel }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Ultrigaria]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by evolutionary stone]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve using Leaf Stone]]

[[fr:Boustiflor]]
[[ja:ウツドン]]
[[pt:Weepinbell (pokémon)]]

Talk:Poké Radar

2009-08-02T17:27:34Z

Crystal Shards:

Shouldn't more information be added to this article about catching shinies with the Radar? - [[User:MrWho|MrWho]] 17:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Pokémon Wiki has its own article on Poké Radar chaning... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

== It said chainning didn't help catch shinys... ==

http://youtube.com/user/shinyhunter disagrees, but I settled for putting in a citation needed instead.
--[[User:Scwizard|Scwizard]] 07:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, it may not. I honestly don't know myself. However I do know that if it's ALWAYS 1/8192, finding 8192 wild Pokémon will likely result in you finding at least one shiny. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== You should check this out ==

http://pokeguide.filb.de/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1187474533&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

I don't understand it but it looks interesting.
--[[User:Scwizard|Scwizard]] 00:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Chains ==

Unless it's just my crappy luck, catching Pokemon doesn't always continue a chain; usually it works only half the time. Similarly, most of my chains consist of three or four Pokemon (five at the most, so far), even with the help of Max Repels, before encountering an entirely new species (ie, four Bagons, then Machop). The article is very misleading in that, unless it's just my own interpretation, it almost guarantees you'll encounter Bagon after Bagon after Bagon until you do something to break the chain rather than chains simply ending on their own like what has happened to me on more than several occasions. I would alter the article myself, but I would like to listen to the comments of others first. // [[User:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporro''''']] 21:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:The method itself is not wrong - it has been proven through lots of testing. However, I think there are some subtleties to continuing the chain that need to be made more clear. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

=="Formula"==
Cam someone please describe the formula for catchin a shiny in words? Im not a super genius.....[[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 18:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:Your chances of encountering one are 1 out of 8192. That not hard to understand.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

is that ''it''? im talkin bout using the radar, how it improves the chances! [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 00:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

By using the radar and building a chain, your odds of finding a shiny pokemon increases to about .5%(1 in 200) at 40 pokemon chained, way better than 1 in 8192. So if you really want shiny pokemon, the radar is the way to go. There are still pokemon that you can't get with the radar though, for those pokemon you're stuck at 1 in 8192.

Theoretically, you couldn't chain over 40 because at 41 the formula divides by 0, and beyond 41 you have negative percentages. However I've seen various accounts of people chaining above 40, so it is possible.
[[User:Resolver13|Resolver13]] 21:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, the formula caps, so if Nc > 40, Nc = 40 --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Question... ==

I've seen this come up: "''The grassy patch remained silent...''" When does that occur? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:When there are no Pokemon who are tracked by the Poke Radar. For example, there are usually 4 patches of grass, usually north, south, east and west of you. However, let's say you're in a small patch of grass and there's no space to place the patches of moving grass. You're screwed. This can occur during chains but doesn't break the chain, all one has to do with walk the 50 steps and redo the Radar. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 06:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Formula Origin ==

I am ''quite'' intrigued by this formula: where exactly did it come from? I'm saying this because the results are not even near "round" numbers, though that's not the main reason(if I were a game designer, I'd prefer "non-round" probability numbers, too). I'm just curious: how does one determine such a... complex formula like that? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 00:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Full Japanese name for Poké Radar Key Item ==

According to the main article, it separates the name into "Poké Tore".
Does anyone else believe that the "Tore" in the name is just a shorthand version of "Tracer"?

If the above is correct, the name will then fully extend to "Pocket Monster Tracer".

- HechEff, 2008/01/07, 0655 (+0000 GMT)

:True, but it is translated through the games into English as Poké Radar, so this is the title we use. Thanks for your concern, and next time use four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign your posts. It'll save you typing it out manually. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

: That I understand, but just thought I would mention it considering how many name changes were made during translation. And thank you for the tip regarding signatures. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 22:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Animation ==
Would it be possible for anyone to get an animation of the Poké Radar in use, and perhaps show the difference between grass shaking normally and grass shaking "more violently"? I don't know how to capture anything, or I'd do it myself. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 17:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Fight Area

2009-08-02T17:10:54Z

Crystal Shards:

{{Infobox town
|town=Fight Area
|characters=ファイトエリア
|japanese=Fight Area
|image=Fight area.PNG
|image_size=256
|slogan={{sign|DPcitymap|header}}
{{sign|DPcitymap|map|Fight Area}}
{{sign|DPcitymap|title|Fight Area}}
{{sign|DPcitymap|Battles Galore}}
{{sign|DPcitymap|footer}}
|region=Sinnoh
|routes=[[Route 225]] (north) [[Route 230]] (east)
|bottom=none
|map=Fight Area.png
|colordark=999999
|colorlight=CCCCCC
}}
'''Fight Area''' is an area in [[Battle Zone|northern]] [[Sinnoh]]. It is the home of the {{si|Battle Park}}. In {{v2|Platinum}}, the Battle Park is replaced by the Sinnoh {{si|Battle Frontier}}.

Near the [[lookout station]], the player can get a [[Super Rod]] from a [[fisherman]].

==Places of interest==
===Battle Park===
{{main|Battle Park (Sinnoh)}}
In front of the entrance to the {{si|Battle Park}} is a spot where {{ga|Pearl|the rival}} will stand on Saturday and Sunday in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, where the {{player}} can battle him.

Within Battle Park itself are both the [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (where [[Battle Point]]s can be earned) and a building where the earned Battle Points can be redeemed.

===Battle Frontier===
{{main|Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)}}
Within the Battle Frontier are five battle facilities, including the Battle Park's [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]], where [[Battle Point]]s can be earned, an Entrance hall, and a market place and prize center where Battle Points can be exchanged for items.

==Demography==
The population of Fight Area is 19 people. The small number is due to the fact that there are only 4 buildings in a small area. Also, most people in the Fight Area are likely not inhabitants of the Fight Area, but travelers due to the nature of the battle zone.

==Items==
* [[Fishing#Super_Rod|Super Rod]] - From a Fisherman

==Name origin==
The name seems to come from the fact that the Fight Area is not a city, however, it is a tiny port town built around the Battle Park/Battle Frontier, where many [[Pokémon battle]]s take place.

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''Zona de Combate'''
* Italian: '''Area Sfida'''
* German: '''Kampfareal'''
 
{{locationstub}} 
{{Sinnoh}}
[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]

[[de:Kampfareal]]
[[ja:ファイトエリア]]

Talk:Sinnoh Route 214

2009-08-01T19:45:31Z

Crystal Shards:

==Fishing rates==
Fishing rates on this route are...? [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 23:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any percentages but according my Pokédex book,

Old Rod= Magikarp seen Very Often. Good Rod= Magikarp seen Very Often and Goldeen seen Normally. Super Rod= Gyrados seen Very Often and Seaking seen Normally

So there they are. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Poochyena ==

Shouldn't poochyena be added to the list of specail pokemon available on this route since it's capturable by Poke radar in Platinum?[[User:Dragonboy|Dragonboy]]

== Sendoff Spring ==
I'm thinking you have to beat the Elite Four AND obtain the National Dex before you can get here, because I managed to get the National Dex before I beat the Elite Four and I'm standing right where the entrance should be and there's no entrance. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 19:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Victory Road (Sinnoh)

2009-08-01T18:51:00Z

Crystal Shards:

Is there no info available on Victory Road's wild Pokemon in Platinum? -- [[User:Delphinus|Delphinus]] 11:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:Of course there is, it just hasn't been put on the page yet. Yes, we're slow. D: It'll get done sooner or later, don't worry. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::{{Template|Outdated}}? D: I'll try to fix the Trainers though. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 11:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I can get the Pokémon tomorrow, if no one gets there first. And if I remember... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I am updating item information as I go through; I've found one or two things that weren't lited... It'll probably take a few edits as I play in spurts, but it'll get done. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Azumarill ==

I caught an Azumarill in my Platinum version in Backroom 1. --[[User:Kamikami|Kamikami]] 00:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Victory Road (Sinnoh)

2009-08-01T18:50:04Z

Crystal Shards: /* Items */

{{outdated}}
{{Infobox location
|image=Victory road sinnoh.PNG
|image_size=256
|type=cave
|location_name=Victory Road
|japanese_name=チャンピオンロード
|translated_name=Champion Road
|location={{si|Pokémon League}}
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
}}

'''Victory Road''' (Japanese: '''チャンピオンロード''' ''Champion Road'') is the final journey one must take before they can face the [[Elite Four]]. Like the other Victory Roads from previous generations, there are three levels. In order to get through the cave, {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Strength}}, {{m|Rock Smash}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, and {{m|Rock Climb}} are required.

After the Elite Four have been defeated, and the player has become the Champion and has the [[National Pokédex]], a previously-blocked path will be open, which leads to {{rt|224}}. Along the path, a young woman named [[Marley]] will need the player's help to get through a {{m|Defog|foggy}} area of the cave.

In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the entrance to the cave was only one tile wide; this was increased to five in {{game|Platinum}} with a small [[Poké Ball]] carving overhead.

==Items==
===Found in Diamond and Pearl===
* {{TM|41|Torment}} - North of Psychic Bryce
* [[Ultra Ball]] (Hidden) - East of Psychic Bryce
* [[Status ailment healing item#Full Heal|Full Heal]]
* [[Max Ether]] - Northwest of Ace Trainer Omar (Requires Bike and HMs Strength and Rock Smash)
* [[Full Restore]]
* {{TM|71|Stone Edge}}
* [[Rare Candy]] (Hidden) - East of Ace Trainer Sydney (Requires HM Strength)
* {{TM|59|Dragon Pulse}} - Northwest of Psychic Valencia (Requires HMs Surf and Waterfall)
* [[Razor Claw]]
* {{TM|79|Dark Pulse}}
* [[Valuable item#TinyMushroom_and_Big_Mushroom|Big Mushroom]] (Hidden) - South of Dragon Trainer Ondrej (Requires HM Surf)

===Found In Platinum===
* [[Max Repel]]
* [[Nugget]] (Hidden)
* [[Max Elixir]]
* [[Ultra Ball]]

===After obtaining [[National Pokédex]]===
* {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}
* {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}
* [[Big Pearl]]
* [[Leftovers]] - (Requires HM Surf)
* [[Nugget]] (Hidden) - in an empty ground spot, surfing north-east right after entering the previously blocked area

==[[Pokémon]]==
===Floors and basements===

{| border=1 style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #999; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-
! width=70px rowspan=2 style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| Name
! width=70px rowspan=2 colspan=3 style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};" | Games
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| F1
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| F2
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| B1F
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| Back Room 1{{tt|*|Unlocked after getting the National Pokédex}}
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/cavedark}};"| Back Room 2{{tt|*|Unlocked after getting the National Pokédex}} Back Room 3{{tt|*|Unlocked after getting the National Pokédex}}
|-
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Rate
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Rate
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Rate
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Rate
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/cavelight}};"|Rate
|-
| align=center | {{p|Golbat}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45-47
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 20%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Graveler}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 46
| align=center | 20%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 51
| align=center | 20%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Onix}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50
| align=center | 10%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Steelix}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 46
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 47
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 46
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 52
| align=center | 10%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 52
| align=center | 10%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Medicham}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 15%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45-47
| align=center | 15%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 15%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 15%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 15%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Machoke}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 25%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-46
| align=center | 25%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 25%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-52
| align=center | 25%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Kadabra}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45-47
| align=center | 25%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|-
| align=center | {{p|Floatzel}}
| align=center style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 44-45
| align=center | 30%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 50-51
| align=center | 30%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|-
| align=center | {{p|Rhyhorn}}
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" colspan="3" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 41-42
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|-
| align=center | {{p|Rhydon}}
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" colspan="3" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 41-42
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|-
| align=center | {{p|Gabite}}
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" colspan="3" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 45-48
| align=center | 5%
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
|}

===Fishing and surfing===

{| border=1 width=505px style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #999; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};"
! width=70px rowspan=2 style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};"| Name
! width=40px rowspan=2 colspan=3 style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};" | Games
! width=80px rowspan=2 style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};" | Location
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};"| B1F
! style="background: #999"|
! width=105px colspan=2 style="text-align:center; background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};"| Back Room 1{{tt|*|Unlocked after getting the National Pokédex}}
|-
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterlight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterlight}};"|Rate
! width=5px style="background: #999"|
! width=70px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterlight}};"|Levels
! width=35px style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterlight}};"|Rate
|-
| align=center | {{p|Golbat}}
| align=center width=9% style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center width=9% style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| align=center | Surf
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 35-50
| align=center | 100%
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 40-55
| align=center | 90%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Lapras}}
| align=center width=9% style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center width=9% style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| align=center | Surf
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | --
| align=center | --
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 40-66
| align=center | 10%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Magikarp}}
| align=center width=9% style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center width=9% style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| align=center | [[Old Rod]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 3-10
| align=center | 100%
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 3-10
| align=center | 100%
|-
| align=center | {{p|Magikarp}}
| align=center width=9% style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center width=9% style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| align=center | [[Good Rod]]
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 10-25
| align=center | 100%
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 10-25
| align=center | 100%
|- style="background: #{{RouteInfo/waterdark}};"
! colspan=11 | After getting National Pokédex
|-
| align=center | {{p|Gyarados}}
| align=center width=9% style="background: #ddf;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D]]
| align=center width=9% style="background: #fdd;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P]]
| align=center style="background: #ddd;" | [[Pokémon Platinum|Pt]]
| align=center | Super Rod
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 20-55
| align=center | 100%
| style="background: #999"|
| align=center | 20-55
| align=center | 100%
|}

==Trainers==
===Diamond and Pearl===
{{trainerheader|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Psychic M.png|Psychic|Bryce|1472|3|093|Haunter|♂|43|None|094|Gengar|♂|46|None|065|Alakazam|♂|46|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Hana|1536|2|164|Noctowl|♀|46|None|398|Staraptor|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Mariah|2880|2|055|Golduck|♀|46|None|242|Blissey|♀|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Omar|2880|3|078|Rapidash|♂|45|None|455|Carnivine|♂|45|None|409|Rampardos|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Sydney|2880|2|036|Clefable|♀|46|None|389|Torterra|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Expert.png|Veteran|Clayton|3760|2|398|Staraptor|♂|47|None|450|Hippowdon|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Couple.png|Double Team|Al & Kay|11280|2|398|Staraptor|♂|47|None|340|Whiscash|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Miles|1176|1|068|Machamp|♂|49|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Psychic F.png|Psychic|Valencia|1536|2|433|Chingling|♀|44|None|358|Chimecho|♀|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Couple.png|Double Team|Pat & Jo|11760|2|130|Gyarados|♂|47|None|308|Medicham|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Henry|2940|1|430|Honchkrow|♂|49|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP-Dragontamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Ondrej|1568|1|444|Gabite|♂|49|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Expert.png|Veteran|Edger|3840|3|073|Tentacruel|♂|45|None|076|Golem|♂|45|None|395|Empoleon|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP-Dragontamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Clinton|1472|3|444|Gabite|♂|46|None|444|Gabite|♂|46|None|130|Gyarados|♂|49|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerfooter|cave}}

====After obtaining [[National Pokédex]]====
''Can also be fought as double battles with [[Marley]] as a partner''
{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|left]]
| '''Ace Trainer Micah''' &
| '''Ace Trainer Brandi'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Bibarel}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Rapidash}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Beautifly}} Lv. 54 ♂
|
* {{p|Pachirisu}} Lv. 54 ♀
* {{p|Azumarill}} Lv. 54 ♀
* {{p|Blissey}} Lv. 54 ♀
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}6480
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png|left]]
| '''Psychic Desiree''' &
| '''Psychic Landon'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Kadabra}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Kadabra}} Lv. 54 ♂
|
* {{p|Mr. Mime}} Lv. 56 ♂
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3520
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image: DP_Black_Belt.png|left]]
| '''Black Belt Eddie''' &
| '''Veteran Terrell'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Expert.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Machoke}} Lv. 52 ♂
* {{p|Machamp}} Lv. 58 ♂
|
* {{p|Kricketune}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Quagsire}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Gengar}} Lv. 54 ♂
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}5712
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP-Dragontamer.png|left]]
| '''Dragon Tamer Joe''' &
| '''Bird Keeper Autumn'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Bird_Keeper.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Gabite}} Lv. 56 ♂
* {{p|Gyarados}} Lv. 56 ♂
|
* {{p|Murkrow}} Lv. 53 ♀
* {{p|Honchkrow}} Lv. 57 ♀
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3616
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png|left]]
| '''Psychic Deandre''' &
| '''Psychic Kendra'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Girafarig}} Lv. 56 ♂
|
* {{p|Chingling}} Lv. 53 ♀
* {{p|Chimecho}} Lv. 55 ♀
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3552
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image: DP_Black_Belt.png|left]]
| '''Black Belt Willie''' &
| '''Veteran Brenden'''
| rowspan=3 style=" | [[Image:DP_Expert.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Onix}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Machamp}} Lv. 56 ♂
|
* {{p|Purugly}} Lv. 54 ♀
* {{p|Graveler}} Lv. 54 ♂
* {{p|Golbat}} Lv. 54 ♂
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}5664
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|left]]
| '''Ace Trainer Arthur''' &
| '''Ace Trainer Clarice'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Raichu}} Lv. 55 ♂
* {{p|Gastrodon}} Lv. 55 ♂
|
* {{p|Lopunny}} Lv. 54 ♀
* {{p|Quagsire}} Lv. 54 ♀
* {{p|Pelipper}} Lv. 54 ♀
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}6540
|}

===Platinum===
{{trainerheader|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Psychic M.png|Psychic|Bryce|1472|3|093|Haunter|♂|43|None|094|Gengar|♂|46|None|282|Gardevoir|♂|46|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Hana|1504|2|164|Noctowl|♀|45|None|176|Togetic|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Mariah|2880|3|242|Blissey|♀|45|None|362|Glalie|♀|46|None|462|Magnezone||48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Omar|2880|3|473|Mamoswine|♂|45|None|414|Mothim|♂|46|None|409|Rampardos|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Sydney|2880|2|036|Clefable|♀|47|None|389|Torterra|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Expert.png|Veteran|Clayton|3760|2|398|Staraptor|♂|47|None|463|Lickilicky|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Couple.png|Double Team|Al & Kay|12000|2|398|Staraptor|♂|50|None|424|Ambipom|♂|50|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Miles|1152|1|068|Machamp|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Psychic F.png|Psychic|Valencia|2944|3|358|Chimecho|♀|44|None|359|Absol|♀|45|None|477|Dusknoir|♀|46|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Couple.png|Double Team|Pat & Jo|12000|2|457|Lumineon|♂|50|None|078|Rapidash|♂|50|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Cool Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Henry|2880|2|112|Rhydon|♂|47|None|455|Carnivine|♂|48|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP-Dragontamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Ondrej|1504|2|334|Altaria|♂|45|None|444|Gabite|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Expert.png|Veteran|Edger|3680|3|474|Porygon-Z||46|None|465|Tangrowth|♂|46|None|395|Empoleon|♂|46|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|DP-Dragontamer.png|Dragon Tamer|Clinton|1504|3|443|Gible|♂|43|None|333|Swablu|♂|45|None|444|Gabite|♂|47|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerfooter|cave}}

====After obtaining [[National Pokédex]]====
''Can also be fought as double battles with [[Marley]] as a partner''
{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|left]]
| '''Ace Trainer Micah''' &
| '''Ace Trainer Brandi'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Metang}} Lv. 55
* {{p|Ludicolo}} Lv. 56
|
* {{p|Marowak}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Kangaskhan}} Lv. 57
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}6480
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png|left]]
| '''Psychic Desiree''' &
| '''Psychic Landon'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Mr. Mime}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Mismagius}} Lv. 54
|
* {{p|Shuppet}} Lv. 53
* {{p|Alakazam}} Lv. 55
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3520
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image: DP_Black_Belt.png|left]]
| '''Black Belt Eddie''' &
| '''Veteran Terrell'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Expert.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Mankey}} Lv. 51
* {{p|Machoke}} Lv. 53
* {{p|Infernape}} Lv. 55
|
* {{p|Parasect}} Lv. 53
* {{p|Rhydon}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Magmar}} Lv. 55
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}5712
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP-Dragontamer.png|left]]
| '''Dragon Tamer Joe''' &
| '''Bird Keeper Autumn'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Bird_Keeper.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Dratini}} Lv. 52
* {{p|Gabite}} Lv. 56
|
* {{p|Murkrow}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Xatu}} Lv. 54
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3616
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png|left]]
| '''Psychic Deandre''' &
| '''Psychic Kendra'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Dusknoir}} Lv. 56 ♂
|
* {{p|Chimecho}} Lv. 52
* {{p|Haunter}} Lv. 52
* {{p|Gengar}} Lv. 55
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}3552
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image: DP_Black_Belt.png|left]]
| '''Black Belt Willie''' &
| '''Veteran Brenden'''
| rowspan=3 style=" | [[Image:DP_Expert.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Heracross}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Machamp}} Lv. 54
|
* {{p|Forretress}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Gyarados}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Hippowdon}} Lv. 54
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}5664
|}

{|
|-
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_M.png|left]]
| '''Ace Trainer Arthur''' &
| '''Ace Trainer Clarice'''
| rowspan=3 | [[Image:DP_Cool_Trainer_F.png|left]]
|-
|
* {{p|Gastrodon}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Beedrill}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Electrode}} Lv. 55
|
* {{p|Swalot}} Lv. 53
* {{p|Ninetales}} Lv. 54
* {{p|Magnezone}} Lv. 56
|-
| colspan=2 |
**Winnings: {{PDollar}}6540
|}

==Trivia==
* When picking up the {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}, the game will say "Obtained '''the''' Leftovers", instead of "a" or "an".
* In {{game|Platinum}}, a [[Black Belt]] in the Post-[[National Pokédex|National Dex]] Area will say some random letters, with several spaces between.

==In other languages==
* '''Italian:''' ''Via Vittoria''
* '''Spanish:''' ''Calle Victoria''
* '''German:''' ''Siegesstraße (Sinnoh)''
{{Sinnoh}}
{{Project Locations notice}}
[[Category:Sinnoh locations|Victory Road]]
[[Category:Routes|Victory Road]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations|Victory Road]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]
[[Category:Caves]]

[[de:Siegesstraße (Sinnoh)]]
[[ja:チャンピオンロード (第四世代)]]

Talk:Sinnoh Route 223

2009-08-01T17:55:28Z

Crystal Shards:

==Junction, maybe??==

Shouldn't Victory Road be considered a junction of Route 223, in between the Pokémon League and the rest of Route 223?? Or, should it be considered one of the terminals of Route 223?? Victory Road isn't even mentioned on this page, nor on the Pokémon League's page. I think it's rather important, considering how large of an obstacle it is to overcome. It's the final challenge in the way of getting to the Elite Four. It's long and tedious, and there's even a Pokémon Center at the entrance (that in my gameplay I have returned to often). What does everyone else think?? [[User:bnjelinski|Soon to be Mrs. Shirley]]

Agreed, I edited the page to say it connects to Victory Road and the Pokemon League, rather than editing the junction itself though as Victory Road is considered part of the Pokemon League. If anyone else wants to add that in they can but I thought it looked too cluttered to have both in the junction. --[[User:Heyyopat|Heyyopat]] 00:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:It doesn't connect to Victory Road. You have to go through the south part of the League area. By that logic you'd say Route 9 connects to Rock Tunnel... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Dive Ball==
Is the Dive Ball only available in Platinum? Because I took a long look around in Diamond and didn't find anything, and even looked at some walkthroughs and no Diamond walkthrough mentions a Dive Ball. They do, however, mention a Pearl (the item). --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 17:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Sinnoh Route 222

2009-08-01T17:31:19Z

Crystal Shards: Created page with '=== Pokémon Size Contest === Does this Pokémon ever change, and do the prizes change? If so, at what interval? Does anyone know? I know that I got a Net Ball for showing hi…'

=== Pokémon Size Contest ===
Does this Pokémon ever change, and do the prizes change? If so, at what interval? Does anyone know? I know that I got a [[Net Ball]] for showing him a big [[Remoraid]]. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 17:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Talk page

2009-08-01T04:00:37Z

Crystal Shards: /* Welcome Message */

== Addition ==

I think the paragraph discussing blanking pages should also mention the whole "don't delete talk page comments" thing. That way, when a user asks "where is that written?!" I'll have an answer for him. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why... ==

must we leave [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKuki&diff=572772&oldid=572761 vandalistic messages like these] on talk pages? What's wrong with deleting them? And furthermore why do we let {{tt|the mysterious and anonymous and clearly not human operator of BulbaBot|yeah right}} do stuff like that? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hey!==
:Admin! I know your on! Include a related articles; Bulbapedia Talk page abuse on there![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Why say such a thing? Why do we need an article about rule breakers and since it's already in the {{tt|article|albeit only a mention}}, the article isn't needed. Should we make a page about edit wars? --- Aura-Knight 01:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That can be included. Just for people reading it to be able to find that policy if they have no knowledge of it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==[[:Category:Bulbapedia policies]]==
I hope it's obvious from the title. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 01:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

"When archiving, the entire page much be archived by moving the page as to keep the edit history in tact. By simply copying and pasting the text, or by moving small sections at a time, it breaks the time line of the edit history." Why do we have this rule? It's so stupid. [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 21:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome Message ==
Why do I have to keep my welcome message if I don't want or need it? Sounds pretty stupid if you ask me. I mean if there's some really good reason to keep it, can that at least get added to this page? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's a very useful source of information for how this wiki works. It links to some major policy pages which everyone needs to be aware of, and in addition helps you get started editing Bulbapedia. Hence, everyone gets the welcome when they first arrive. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: My question isn't why we get it in the first place, it's why we get in trouble for removing it. That, to me, is a little over the top. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Everything stays. That helps to keep a history of what's been said. You weren't in trouble, you were just told not to do it again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm not saying '''I''' got in trouble, but apparently others have. I can understand deleting comments, but this is a welcome message I'm talking about. {{unsigned|Crystal Shards}}
:::::I'm well aware that this is a welcome message. Maybe it's done differently on different wikis, but this is how it's done here. Everything stays. Does it really bother you that much? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Here's what you do: When your talk page gets too big for you, archive it. It gets removed from your current talk page but it isn't deleted at the same time. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's not really that big of a deal, I just think it's dumb to dock people for just wanting it gone. I will end up archiving it but it just really shouldn't even be an issue if people want to delete it. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 02:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You weren't docked anything. You weren't penalised in any way. There isn't a subliminal scoring system. Also, don't resign later: it gives the wrong time stamp. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: I realize this. I never said I was under the impression of being penalized, either; please don't read further into what I'm saying than what I'm ''actually'' saying. Others have been penalized, however, because they've been adamant about not wanting that on their talk pages, and it's a bit over-the-top in my opinion to dock them because they don't want to archive anything (especially when starting out) and just want it deleted. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 04:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Talk page

2009-08-01T04:00:09Z

Crystal Shards: /* Welcome Message */

== Addition ==

I think the paragraph discussing blanking pages should also mention the whole "don't delete talk page comments" thing. That way, when a user asks "where is that written?!" I'll have an answer for him. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why... ==

must we leave [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKuki&diff=572772&oldid=572761 vandalistic messages like these] on talk pages? What's wrong with deleting them? And furthermore why do we let {{tt|the mysterious and anonymous and clearly not human operator of BulbaBot|yeah right}} do stuff like that? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hey!==
:Admin! I know your on! Include a related articles; Bulbapedia Talk page abuse on there![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Why say such a thing? Why do we need an article about rule breakers and since it's already in the {{tt|article|albeit only a mention}}, the article isn't needed. Should we make a page about edit wars? --- Aura-Knight 01:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That can be included. Just for people reading it to be able to find that policy if they have no knowledge of it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==[[:Category:Bulbapedia policies]]==
I hope it's obvious from the title. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 01:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

"When archiving, the entire page much be archived by moving the page as to keep the edit history in tact. By simply copying and pasting the text, or by moving small sections at a time, it breaks the time line of the edit history." Why do we have this rule? It's so stupid. [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 21:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome Message ==
Why do I have to keep my welcome message if I don't want or need it? Sounds pretty stupid if you ask me. I mean if there's some really good reason to keep it, can that at least get added to this page? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's a very useful source of information for how this wiki works. It links to some major policy pages which everyone needs to be aware of, and in addition helps you get started editing Bulbapedia. Hence, everyone gets the welcome when they first arrive. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: My question isn't why we get it in the first place, it's why we get in trouble for removing it. That, to me, is a little over the top. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Everything stays. That helps to keep a history of what's been said. You weren't in trouble, you were just told not to do it again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm not saying '''I''' got in trouble, but apparently others have. I can understand deleting comments, but this is a welcome message I'm talking about. {{unsigned|Crystal Shards}}
:::::I'm well aware that this is a welcome message. Maybe it's done differently on different wikis, but this is how it's done here. Everything stays. Does it really bother you that much? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Here's what you do: When your talk page gets too big for you, archive it. It gets removed from your current talk page but it isn't deleted at the same time. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's not really that big of a deal, I just think it's dumb to dock people for just wanting it gone. I will end up archiving it but it just really shouldn't even be an issue if people want to delete it. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 02:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You weren't docked anything. You weren't penalised in any way. There isn't a subliminal scoring system. Also, don't resign later: it gives the wrong time stamp. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: I realize this. I never said I was under the impression of being penalized, either; please don't read further into what I'm saying than what I'm ''actually'' saying. Others have, because they've been adamant about not wanting that on their talk pages, and it's a bit over-the-top in my opinion to dock them because they don't want to archive anything (especially when starting out) and just want it deleted.

Bulbapedia talk:Talk page

2009-08-01T02:18:14Z

Crystal Shards: /* Welcome Message */

== Addition ==

I think the paragraph discussing blanking pages should also mention the whole "don't delete talk page comments" thing. That way, when a user asks "where is that written?!" I'll have an answer for him. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why... ==

must we leave [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKuki&diff=572772&oldid=572761 vandalistic messages like these] on talk pages? What's wrong with deleting them? And furthermore why do we let {{tt|the mysterious and anonymous and clearly not human operator of BulbaBot|yeah right}} do stuff like that? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hey!==
:Admin! I know your on! Include a related articles; Bulbapedia Talk page abuse on there![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Why say such a thing? Why do we need an article about rule breakers and since it's already in the {{tt|article|albeit only a mention}}, the article isn't needed. Should we make a page about edit wars? --- Aura-Knight 01:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That can be included. Just for people reading it to be able to find that policy if they have no knowledge of it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

==[[:Category:Bulbapedia policies]]==
I hope it's obvious from the title. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 01:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

"When archiving, the entire page much be archived by moving the page as to keep the edit history in tact. By simply copying and pasting the text, or by moving small sections at a time, it breaks the time line of the edit history." Why do we have this rule? It's so stupid. [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 21:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome Message ==
Why do I have to keep my welcome message if I don't want or need it? Sounds pretty stupid if you ask me. I mean if there's some really good reason to keep it, can that at least get added to this page? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's a very useful source of information for how this wiki works. It links to some major policy pages which everyone needs to be aware of, and in addition helps you get started editing Bulbapedia. Hence, everyone gets the welcome when they first arrive. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: My question isn't why we get it in the first place, it's why we get in trouble for removing it. That, to me, is a little over the top. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Everything stays. That helps to keep a history of what's been said. You weren't in trouble, you were just told not to do it again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm not saying '''I''' got in trouble, but apparently others have. I can understand deleting comments, but this is a welcome message I'm talking about. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 02:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC) (sorry forgot to sign earlier)
:::::I'm well aware that this is a welcome message. Maybe it's done differently on different wikis, but this is how it's done here. Everything stays. Does it really bother you that much? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Here's what you do: When your talk page gets too big for you, archive it. It gets removed from your current talk page but it isn't deleted at the same time. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's not really that big of a deal, I just think it's dumb to dock people for just wanting it gone. I will end up archiving it but it just really shouldn't even be an issue if people want to delete it. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 02:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Mount Coronet

2009-08-01T01:48:24Z

Crystal Shards: /* Surfing Here */

Since [[Spear Pillar]] and the [[Hall of Origin]] are part of Mt. Coronet, shouldn't they just be described on this page? - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 07:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:That's like saying that [[Mt. Pyre]] is part of {{rt|122}}, though, in my eyes. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 07:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's more like saying the interior floors, the exterior area, and the summit of Mt. Pyre are part of Mt. Pyre. They are all part of the same mountain, so they are listed in the same article. Since Spear Pillar is the top Mt. Coronet and the only way to get to it is through Mt. Coronet, I think Spear Pillar should definately be included in this article. I guess I'm not as strong on including Hall of Origin, but I still think including the hall makes sense. -- [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 18:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:::By the same logic, shouldn't we just put everything in Sinnoh in its article? If there is enough to Spear Pillar to warrant a seperate page then it only needs a linked mention here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah. I honestly should have used [[Viridian Forest]] and {{rt|2}} as my examples instead. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::No, it doesn't have enough unique information to warrant it's own page. It's basically just another floor of Mt. Coronet. The summit of Mt. Pyre doesn't have a seperate article. Shoal Cave's "ice room" doesn't have its own article. Mt. Moon's basement doesn't have its own article. The room where Red is in Mt. Silver doesn't have a seperate article. Spear Pillar shouldn't either. - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 17:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
But the summit of Mt. Pyre is still known as Mt. Pyre. Shoal Cave's ice room is still known as Shoal Cave. Mt. Moon's basement is still known as Mt. Moon. Red's area is still known as Mt. Silver. Pokémon caught/hatched there have that as their caught area. However, if you hatch or catch a Pokémon at Mt. Coronet, it says it was caught there, while at Spear Pillar it says it was caught at Spear Pillar, and at the Hall of Origin it says it was caught at the Hall of Origin. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, when I see it that way, I guess you're right. - [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman]] 17:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Is it just me or is this article brutally out of date? Does anybody know enough about Mt Coronet to be able to at least update it with Platinum Pokemon?--[[User:Heyyopat|Heyyopat]] 01:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

==Updating==

Are there some Pokemon available for capture in Mt. Coronet that aren't mentioned on the page? I was looking at Dratini's page, and it said it could be captured in Mt. Coronet, but where is not specified (and unfortunately, I don't know or I would add the information myself). [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 17:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==The Elusive Feebas==

Are the four random tiles in which Feebas appears on the shoreline only? Or are they scattered throughout the water? [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 23:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Like after giving you the ability to fish while surfing they'd be nice and do that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Layout ==

Should the Items section be redesigned? Currently, every item located in Mt. Coronet seems to come under the Dialga / Palkia quest heading, despite the fact that some items don't require all the above HMs, and do require Rock Climb.
I've also found an Escape Rope in plain view, and a hidden Max Potion, Super Repel and Max Revive that I'm reluctant to place into the list before I know it's helpful and reliable to the reader.

[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 18:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, most of the items are available conveniently during the DP quest, while otherwise it takes a lot of backtracking. I dunno how exactly they're organized on this page, and since I'm not about to restart my game... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia addition? ==

Using the walk any where cheat it is possible to get to a plot of grass and on the east side wall there is a hole in the wall that looks like an entrance into the mountain but you can't go in. This is probably just a prototype entrance but I find it interesting. Is is good enough for the trivia section? [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 13:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean that place where there is only one tuft of grass and then an entrance to the east?You can access that place by using rock climb,and the entrance leads right out of Mt Coronet,to the Celestic Town entrance.I think it's only one way.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 17:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== Help. ==

I '''really''' need help to get to the spear piller in my Pokémon Pearl game because I been wandering through Mt. Coronet so much I think the floor is going to fall. '''''PLEASEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!'''''.[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch♀]] 22:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:...don't be stupid. It's not like the [[Ice Path]]. It's nothing to get through.
:Now go play your game. We're not a walkthrough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Abomasnow ==
Snover evolve to abomasnow at level 40 and a 38 aboasnow is there, shall i add it to trivia?

== Surfing Here ==
Is this the only place you can catch non-Water/Dragon-type Pokémon (like Zubat) while surfing? Is that worth mentioning in trivia, if it is true? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:There's a location in every region where you can find Zubat/Golbat while surfing. It's nothing new. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::Is it just one location in every region? If so, it might be worth mentioning, since it's... different? I dunno. That said, I don't know what the locations are, as for some reason Mr. Coronet was the first place I saw/noticed it, myself. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:22, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::There's at least one. Put simply, if you can Surf, and you can find Zubat, you can find Zubat while surfing. It isn't really anything special. If you'd like an explanation, I guess the player finds the bats flying over the water. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::: Nah, I just thought maybe if it was a single place per region it'd be worth mentioning. Thanks though. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Talk page

2009-08-01T01:46:35Z

Crystal Shards: /* Welcome Message */

Sinnoh Route 222

2009-08-01T00:29:57Z

Crystal Shards: /* Items */

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|size=290
|image=Route 222.jpg
|alternate_name=
|type=land
|direction_a=East
|terminus_a=[[Sunyshore City]]
|direction_b=West
|terminus_b=[[Valor Lakefront]]
|regionmap=Sinnoh_Route222_Map.gif
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
|before=221
|after=223
}}

'''Route 222''' is a route in [[Sinnoh]]. It connects [[Sunyshore City]] with [[Valor Lakefront]], and cannot be accessed until the {{player}} has defeated [[Team Galactic]] at [[Mt. Coronet]].

==Route description==
Just at the beginning of the route, there is a large patch of grass to the north. The top left of it splits into three branches, each containing an item. Heading east, there is a fork in the road with upper and lower paths.

The upper path has few Trainers, a [[loamy soil]] patch, and a thin branch next to a ledge with an item at the end. There is a short path leading behind the gate. To the left is a grass patch, and to the right is a {{m|Cut}} tree that leads to an item.

The lower path is on sand. There are six Trainers here, five that will only battle if talked to. There are a few large boulders scattered around, along with two rocks that can be {{m|Rock Smash|smashed}}. To the northeast of the path, there are two buildings: the {{p|Pikachu}} Fan Club; which contains a Trainer disguised as a Pikachu, and a house hosting the Pokémon Size Contest, in which a fisherman will give a prize if the player shows him a large Pokémon of his request. Southeast is a short way to two grassy patches which both contain an item.

At the intersection of both paths, there is a [[honey]] tree and a Trainer.

===Pikachu Fan Club===
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|PIKACHU Fan Club}}
{{sign|DPcity|Pikapikapikah! Pikapika?}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}
On the beach, there is a house called the "Pikachu Fan Club", that contains a man with six Pikachu. He claims to challenge the Pokémon Championship using only Pikachu. One of the Pikachu in his house is actually a Trainer dressed up as one, and battles the player, using two Pikachu of her own.

===Pokémon Size Contest===
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|Pokémon Size Contest}}
{{sign|DPcity|Big Pokémon Wanted!}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}
This is another house on the beach just right of it. There is a fisherman, who has a dream that a Trainer would bring him a giant Pokémon. He will give a prize if the player shows him a large Pokémon of his request.

==Items==
*[[Honey]]: Near the steps on the northern path
*[[Honey]] (hidden)
*[[Ultra Ball]] (hidden)
*[[Full Restore]] (hidden)
*{{TM|56|Fling}}: Man near cliff edge
*[[Carbos]]: Behind {{m|Cut}}table tree
*[[Big Mushroom]] (hidden, requires [[Surf]])

==Pokémon==
{{catchableheader|land}}
{{catchtime|All}}
{{catchentry4|081|Magnemite|no|no|yes|Grass|39|10%}}
{{catchentry4|082|Magneton|no|no|yes|Grass|41|5%}}
{{catchentry4|122|Mr. Mime|yes|no|no|Grass|41-42|15%}}
{{catchentry4|278|Wingull|yes|yes|no|Grass|41|10%}}
{{catchentry4|278|Wingull|no|no|yes|Grass|38|10%}}
{{catchentry4|279|Pelipper|no|no|yes|Grass|40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|404|Luxio|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|10%}}
{{catchentry4|423E|Gastrodon|yes|yes|no|Grass|40|20%}}
{{catchentry4|431|Glameow|no|yes|no|Grass|40|20%}}
{{catchentry4|432|Purugly|no|yes|no|Grass|41-42|15%}}
{{catchtime|Morning}}
{{catchentry4|125|Electabuzz|no|no|yes|Grass|39-41|30%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|25%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|no|no|yes|Grass|40|20%}}
{{catchentry4|423E|Gastrodon|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|10%}}
{{catchentry4|441|Chatot|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-41|20%}}
{{catchentry4|441|Chatot|no|no|yes|Grass|38|10%}}
{{catchtime|Day}}
{{catchentry4|125|Electabuzz|no|no|yes|Grass|39-41|30%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|25%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|no|no|yes|Grass|40|20%}}
{{catchentry4|423E|Gastrodon|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|10%}}
{{catchentry4|441|Chatot|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-41|20%}}
{{catchentry4|441|Chatot|no|no|yes|Grass|38|10%}}
{{catchtime|Night}}
{{catchentry4|125|Electabuzz|no|no|yes|Grass|39|20%}}
{{catchentry4|423E|Gastrodon|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|20%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|yes|yes|no|Grass|40-42|35%}}
{{catchentry4|419|Floatzel|no|no|yes|Grass|38-41|40%}}
{{catchtime|SurfFish}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing [[Old Rod|Old]]|3-10|100%}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing [[Good Rod|Good]]|10-25|65%}}
{{catchentry4|223|Remoraid|yes|yes|yes|Fishing [[Good Rod|Good]]|10-25|35%}}
{{catchentry4|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|no|{{m|Surf}}ing|20-30|60%}}
{{catchentry4|072|Tentacool|no|no|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|30-40|60%}}
{{catchentry4|073|Tentacruel|yes|yes|no|{{m|Surf}}ing|20-40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|073|Tentacruel|no|no|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|30-50|9%}}
{{catchentry4|278|Wingull|yes|yes|no|{{m|Surf}}ing|20-30|30%}}
{{catchentry4|278|Wingull|no|no|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|30-40|30%}}
{{catchentry4|279|Pelipper|yes|yes|no|{{m|Surf}}ing|20-40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|279|Pelipper|no|no|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|30-50|1%}}
{{catchtime|AfterNatDex}}
{{catchentry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|no|Fishing [[Super Rod|Super]]|30-40|60%}}
{{catchentry4|130|Gyarados|no|no|yes|Fishing [[Super Rod|Super]]|30-55|65%}}
{{catchentry4|224|Octillery|yes|yes|no|Fishing [[Super Rod|Super]]|20-50|35%}}
{{catchentry4|224|Octillery|no|no|yes|Fishing [[Super Rod|Super]]|30-55|35%}}
{{catchentry4|319|Sharpedo|yes|yes|no|Fishing [[Super Rod|Super]]|40-55|5%}}
{{catchtime|Special}}
{{catchentry4|300|Skitty|yes|yes|no|[[Swarms]]|40|40%}}
{{catchentry4|300|Skitty|no|no|yes|[[Swarms]]|36-40|40%}}
{{catchentry4|180|Flaaffy|yes|yes|no|[[Poké Radar]]|41-42|22%}}
{{catchentry4|180|Flaaffy|no|no|yes|[[Poké Radar]]|38-41|22%}}
{{catchablefooter|land}}

==Trainers==
===Diamond/Pearl===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Rich_Boy.png|Rich Boy|Trey|6880|1|404|Luxio||43|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Beauty.png|Beauty|Nicola|2408|1|428|Lopunny||43|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Sailor.png|Sailor|Marc|1376|1|458|Mantyke||43|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Tuber_M.png|Tuber|Conner||1|223|Remoraid||43|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Sailor.png|Sailor|Luther|1376|3|349|Feebas||37|None|423|Gastrodon||43|None|067|Machoke||40|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Alec|963|2|129|Magikarp||40|None|130|Gyarados||42|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|George|1344|4|129|Magikarp||38|None|130|Gyarados||42|None|223|Remoraid||40|None|456|Finneon||40|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Brett|1248|3|129|Magikarp||39|None|456|Finneon||42|None|349|Feebas||39|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Cole|1312|3|130|Gyarados||41|None|130|Gyarados||41|None|223|Remoraid||38|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Tuber_F.png|Tuber|Holly|172|1|223|Remoraid||43|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DPPokeKid.png|Poké Kid|Janet||2|025|Pikachu||41|None|025|Pikachu||41|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Officer.png|Policeman|Thomas||2|164|Noctowl||42|None|067|Machoke||42|None}}
{{Trainerfooter}}

===Platinum===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Rich_Boy.png|Rich Boy|Trey|7200|1|405|Luxray|♂|45|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Beauty.png|Beauty|Nicola|2520|1|428|Lopunny|♀|45|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Sailor.png|Sailor|Marc|1440|1|458|Mantyke|♂|45|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Tuber_M.png|Tuber|Conner|176|1|223|Remoraid|♂|44|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Sailor.png|Sailor|Luther|1376|3|278|Wingull|♂|41|None|423|Gastrodon|♂|43|None|067|Machoke|♂|42|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Alec|1440|2|129|Magikarp|♂|42|None|130|Gyarados|♂|45|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|George||4|129|Magikarp|♂|41|None|130|Gyarados|♂|42|None|223|Remoraid|♂|41|None|456|Finneon|♂|41|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Brett|1344|3|129|Magikarp|♂|43|None|456|Finneon|♂|42|None|349|Feebas|♂|42|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Cole|1376|3|130|Gyarados|♂|43|None|130|Gyarados|♂|43|None|223|Remoraid|♂|40|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Tuber_F.png|Tuber|Holly|176|1|223|Remoraid|♀|44|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DPPokeKid.png|Poké Kid|Janet||2|025|Pikachu|♀|42|None|025|Pikachu|♀|42|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Officer.png|Policeman|Thomas|1720|2|164|Noctowl|♂|43|None|067|Machoke|♂|43|None}}
{{Trainerfooter}}
{{-}}
{{Sinnoh}}
{{Project Routes notice}}
[[Category:Sinnoh locations|Route 222]]
[[Category:Routes|Route 222]]
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations|Route 222]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]
[[de:Route 222]]

[[ja:222ばんどうろ]]

Talk:Mount Coronet

2009-08-01T00:22:10Z

Crystal Shards: /* Surfing Here */

Talk:Spear Pillar

2009-08-01T00:19:16Z

Crystal Shards: /* Trainer Battles? */

== Magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet ==
The special magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet extend to the Spear Pillar. Which means, any Magneton or Nosepass when leveled up here, will evolve. Whether the Rare Candy was used, or you defeat Mars and Jupiter, Cyrus, Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 06:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's in the article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Someone with Platinum should confirm if Mt. Coronet extends to the Ruined World - by battling and beating Giratina in the Ruined World (albeit not saving of course) with a Nosepass or Magneton which needs at least the Giratina-amount of Exp. to level up. I'm mentioning this on the Spear Pillar talk page as well. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Misnamed? ==

Isn't that just like what's in Melee? Kanto Poké Floats, Kanto Pokémon Stadium? In reality, it's a subtitle dealie, I think. Guess we'll see in 17 days. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 17:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I fail to see how it is incorrect anyway since it ''is'' the mountain on the lower half. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I agree. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Move. ==

I suggest that this page shall be moved with [[Spear Pillar (stage)]], reasons given in the "move"-template on the top of the article. Who agree? {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}
:No, no. They're fine as seperate articles. Leave them be. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 01:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::We didn't move [[Viridian Forest]] because of the one in [[Pokémon Channel]]. Moving it back. As for the stage, well, it gets a separate article like the stadiums do. Hell, I'd propose merging all Pokémon stages into one article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 03:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Read a little bit more information, oh god. All stages and characters n the entire Smash Bros. series are meant to bring back memory, up to Battlefield and Final Destination. Stages such as Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Stadium 2 are new creations from the Pokémon-seriesthat shall bring back them memories (as said before), while stages such as Saffron City and Spear Pillar are taken from the Pokémon-games and bring back memories that way. Look a little bit, they are meant to be identical as they are in D/P in SSBB! Shall me move Pallet Town's anime-version to Pallet Town (anime)? Litlerrot Town's Special-version to Litleroot Town (Special)? That is just as ridicolous as moving Spear Pillar's Smash Bros. counterpart to Spear Pillar (stage). And coming up with the Viridian Forests and the Pokémon Stadiums as proof are juast MORE ridicolous, especially since the Viridian Forests are in two entirerly different regions, and the Pokémons Stadiums are confirmed to be different Pokémon Stadiums. ~~{{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}

JUST LEAVE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 12:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it does. {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} 13:55, 23 March (GMT +01)
::No it doesn't[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 16:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it's obvious that the Spear Pillar and Saffron City stages are ''based'' off the in-game locations, but there's no way they're exactly the same. They've been re-vamped for the sake of smashing and are fundamentally different, and deserve their own articles. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 21:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Bringing back an old topic here, since I thought of suggesting a merge but read the talk pages to see if I could find any old discussion. To Martinomos, yes, they are different but that doesn't mean the stage deserves a separate article. It's essentially a different version of Spear Pillar, similar to how [[Sootopolis City]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (with half of the volcano cut off), and how [[Brock]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (being a breeder and traveling with Ash and co.) Since it's just a different version, I think we should merge the articles. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 01:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Width... ==

Is it just me, or does the Platimum Spear Pillar look wider than the D/P Speat pillar?--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 19:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

==Snow==

When traveling to the Spear Pillar, you can clearly see the uppermost reaches of the mountain are covered in snow, and if the Spear Pillar is at the summit of the mountain, how can there be no snow? As shown when Cyrus unleashes Dialga and Palkia, it is not a room since the time/space warp is seen spreading all over Sinnoh. That is also proved in the picture on the Sinnoh page.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 14:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm just going to chalk it up to the easy-to-presume supernatural properties of the place.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

==Notable?==
In DP, Spear Pillar is mirrored. Should this be noted?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Walk Anywhere ==

Yes yes, I know it's cheating, but anyway. I was testing Pokemon Platinum and I wanted to see the 3D stuff, so I walked anywhere- to the spear pillar. Anyway, I walked all the way off the top and suddenly it said "Jubilife City"!!!{{unsigned|MatthewJA}}

:Yep. Cool. Are you going to do something about that, or keep on using the discussion page as a forum? If you think it's horrendously important, add it to the article. And next time, sign your posts. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Gone?==

I returned to Spear Pillar after defeating the Elite Four and Palkia and Dialga aren't here, did I miss something, or have thier locations been moved?[[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 16:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I have the same problem. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 11:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::You need to have their respective orbs, I believe. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:::This is.... platinum?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, Platinum, but I worked it out. Needed to talk to Cynthia's grandmother, who explains that the orbs summon the legendaries. That triggers their return to spear pillar. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 23:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trainer Battles? ==
We don't have any trainer battles on here, you know, like the duo Grunts and then the double battle with Mars and Jupiter. And of course we have Cyrus too. Is there a reason we don't mention it? Should I post the battle information? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 20:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:Odd. If {{tt|you|or someone}} can get the grunts, I'll copypaste the Admins' information from other parts of the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's a double battle, a female Grunt and a male Grunt. If the side the Grunts show up on matches the Pokémon they own, then the female owns a level 38 Stunky and a level 38 Glameow; the male owns a level 38 Dustox and a level 38 Croagunk. Player gets 6080 for winning. Do you guys need the battle info for Diamond for the Mars/Jupiter as well, or is it the same in DP as in Platinum? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Spear Pillar

2009-08-01T00:18:41Z

Crystal Shards:

== Magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet ==
The special magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet extend to the Spear Pillar. Which means, any Magneton or Nosepass when leveled up here, will evolve. Whether the Rare Candy was used, or you defeat Mars and Jupiter, Cyrus, Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 06:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's in the article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Someone with Platinum should confirm if Mt. Coronet extends to the Ruined World - by battling and beating Giratina in the Ruined World (albeit not saving of course) with a Nosepass or Magneton which needs at least the Giratina-amount of Exp. to level up. I'm mentioning this on the Spear Pillar talk page as well. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Misnamed? ==

Isn't that just like what's in Melee? Kanto Poké Floats, Kanto Pokémon Stadium? In reality, it's a subtitle dealie, I think. Guess we'll see in 17 days. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 17:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I fail to see how it is incorrect anyway since it ''is'' the mountain on the lower half. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I agree. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Move. ==

I suggest that this page shall be moved with [[Spear Pillar (stage)]], reasons given in the "move"-template on the top of the article. Who agree? {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}
:No, no. They're fine as seperate articles. Leave them be. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 01:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::We didn't move [[Viridian Forest]] because of the one in [[Pokémon Channel]]. Moving it back. As for the stage, well, it gets a separate article like the stadiums do. Hell, I'd propose merging all Pokémon stages into one article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 03:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Read a little bit more information, oh god. All stages and characters n the entire Smash Bros. series are meant to bring back memory, up to Battlefield and Final Destination. Stages such as Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Stadium 2 are new creations from the Pokémon-seriesthat shall bring back them memories (as said before), while stages such as Saffron City and Spear Pillar are taken from the Pokémon-games and bring back memories that way. Look a little bit, they are meant to be identical as they are in D/P in SSBB! Shall me move Pallet Town's anime-version to Pallet Town (anime)? Litlerrot Town's Special-version to Litleroot Town (Special)? That is just as ridicolous as moving Spear Pillar's Smash Bros. counterpart to Spear Pillar (stage). And coming up with the Viridian Forests and the Pokémon Stadiums as proof are juast MORE ridicolous, especially since the Viridian Forests are in two entirerly different regions, and the Pokémons Stadiums are confirmed to be different Pokémon Stadiums. ~~{{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}

JUST LEAVE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 12:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it does. {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} 13:55, 23 March (GMT +01)
::No it doesn't[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 16:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it's obvious that the Spear Pillar and Saffron City stages are ''based'' off the in-game locations, but there's no way they're exactly the same. They've been re-vamped for the sake of smashing and are fundamentally different, and deserve their own articles. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 21:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Bringing back an old topic here, since I thought of suggesting a merge but read the talk pages to see if I could find any old discussion. To Martinomos, yes, they are different but that doesn't mean the stage deserves a separate article. It's essentially a different version of Spear Pillar, similar to how [[Sootopolis City]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (with half of the volcano cut off), and how [[Brock]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (being a breeder and traveling with Ash and co.) Since it's just a different version, I think we should merge the articles. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 01:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Width... ==

Is it just me, or does the Platimum Spear Pillar look wider than the D/P Speat pillar?--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 19:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

==Snow==

When traveling to the Spear Pillar, you can clearly see the uppermost reaches of the mountain are covered in snow, and if the Spear Pillar is at the summit of the mountain, how can there be no snow? As shown when Cyrus unleashes Dialga and Palkia, it is not a room since the time/space warp is seen spreading all over Sinnoh. That is also proved in the picture on the Sinnoh page.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 14:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm just going to chalk it up to the easy-to-presume supernatural properties of the place.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

==Notable?==
In DP, Spear Pillar is mirrored. Should this be noted?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Walk Anywhere ==

Yes yes, I know it's cheating, but anyway. I was testing Pokemon Platinum and I wanted to see the 3D stuff, so I walked anywhere- to the spear pillar. Anyway, I walked all the way off the top and suddenly it said "Jubilife City"!!!{{unsigned|MatthewJA}}

:Yep. Cool. Are you going to do something about that, or keep on using the discussion page as a forum? If you think it's horrendously important, add it to the article. And next time, sign your posts. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Gone?==

I returned to Spear Pillar after defeating the Elite Four and Palkia and Dialga aren't here, did I miss something, or have thier locations been moved?[[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 16:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I have the same problem. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 11:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::You need to have their respective orbs, I believe. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:::This is.... platinum?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, Platinum, but I worked it out. Needed to talk to Cynthia's grandmother, who explains that the orbs summon the legendaries. That triggers their return to spear pillar. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 23:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trainer Battles? ==
We don't have any trainer battles on here, you know, like the duo Grunts and then the double battle with Mars and Jupiter. And of course we have Cyrus too. Is there a reason we don't mention it? Should I post the battle information? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 20:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:Odd. If {{tt|you|or someone}} can get the grunts, I'll copypaste the Admins' information from other parts of the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's a double battle, a female Grunt and a male Grunt. If the side the Grunts show up on matches the Pokémon they own, then the female owns a level 38 Stunky and a level 38 Glameow; and the male owns a level 38 Dustox and a level 38 Croagunk. Player gets 6080 for winning. Do you guys need the battle info for Diamond for the Mars/Jupiter as well, or is it the same in DP as in Platinum? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Spear Pillar

2009-08-01T00:17:20Z

Crystal Shards: /* Trainer Battles? */

== Magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet ==
The special magnetic fields of Mt. Coronet extend to the Spear Pillar. Which means, any Magneton or Nosepass when leveled up here, will evolve. Whether the Rare Candy was used, or you defeat Mars and Jupiter, Cyrus, Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 06:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. It's in the article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Someone with Platinum should confirm if Mt. Coronet extends to the Ruined World - by battling and beating Giratina in the Ruined World (albeit not saving of course) with a Nosepass or Magneton which needs at least the Giratina-amount of Exp. to level up. I'm mentioning this on the Spear Pillar talk page as well. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Misnamed? ==

Isn't that just like what's in Melee? Kanto Poké Floats, Kanto Pokémon Stadium? In reality, it's a subtitle dealie, I think. Guess we'll see in 17 days. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 17:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:I fail to see how it is incorrect anyway since it ''is'' the mountain on the lower half. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::I agree. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== Move. ==

I suggest that this page shall be moved with [[Spear Pillar (stage)]], reasons given in the "move"-template on the top of the article. Who agree? {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}
:No, no. They're fine as seperate articles. Leave them be. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 01:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::We didn't move [[Viridian Forest]] because of the one in [[Pokémon Channel]]. Moving it back. As for the stage, well, it gets a separate article like the stadiums do. Hell, I'd propose merging all Pokémon stages into one article. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 03:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Read a little bit more information, oh god. All stages and characters n the entire Smash Bros. series are meant to bring back memory, up to Battlefield and Final Destination. Stages such as Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Stadium 2 are new creations from the Pokémon-seriesthat shall bring back them memories (as said before), while stages such as Saffron City and Spear Pillar are taken from the Pokémon-games and bring back memories that way. Look a little bit, they are meant to be identical as they are in D/P in SSBB! Shall me move Pallet Town's anime-version to Pallet Town (anime)? Litlerrot Town's Special-version to Litleroot Town (Special)? That is just as ridicolous as moving Spear Pillar's Smash Bros. counterpart to Spear Pillar (stage). And coming up with the Viridian Forests and the Pokémon Stadiums as proof are juast MORE ridicolous, especially since the Viridian Forests are in two entirerly different regions, and the Pokémons Stadiums are confirmed to be different Pokémon Stadiums. ~~{{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}

JUST LEAVE IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 12:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it does. {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} 13:55, 23 March (GMT +01)
::No it doesn't[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 16:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it's obvious that the Spear Pillar and Saffron City stages are ''based'' off the in-game locations, but there's no way they're exactly the same. They've been re-vamped for the sake of smashing and are fundamentally different, and deserve their own articles. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 21:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Bringing back an old topic here, since I thought of suggesting a merge but read the talk pages to see if I could find any old discussion. To Martinomos, yes, they are different but that doesn't mean the stage deserves a separate article. It's essentially a different version of Spear Pillar, similar to how [[Sootopolis City]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (with half of the volcano cut off), and how [[Brock]] in the anime is a different version than from the games (being a breeder and traveling with Ash and co.) Since it's just a different version, I think we should merge the articles. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 01:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Width... ==

Is it just me, or does the Platimum Spear Pillar look wider than the D/P Speat pillar?--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 19:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

==Snow==

When traveling to the Spear Pillar, you can clearly see the uppermost reaches of the mountain are covered in snow, and if the Spear Pillar is at the summit of the mountain, how can there be no snow? As shown when Cyrus unleashes Dialga and Palkia, it is not a room since the time/space warp is seen spreading all over Sinnoh. That is also proved in the picture on the Sinnoh page.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 14:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'm just going to chalk it up to the easy-to-presume supernatural properties of the place.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

==Notable?==
In DP, Spear Pillar is mirrored. Should this be noted?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Walk Anywhere ==

Yes yes, I know it's cheating, but anyway. I was testing Pokemon Platinum and I wanted to see the 3D stuff, so I walked anywhere- to the spear pillar. Anyway, I walked all the way off the top and suddenly it said "Jubilife City"!!!{{unsigned|MatthewJA}}

:Yep. Cool. Are you going to do something about that, or keep on using the discussion page as a forum? If you think it's horrendously important, add it to the article. And next time, sign your posts. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Gone?==

I returned to Spear Pillar after defeating the Elite Four and Palkia and Dialga aren't here, did I miss something, or have thier locations been moved?[[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 16:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I have the same problem. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 11:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::You need to have their respective orbs, I believe. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:::This is.... platinum?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, Platinum, but I worked it out. Needed to talk to Cynthia's grandmother, who explains that the orbs summon the legendaries. That triggers their return to spear pillar. [[User:King Neoterikos|King Neoterikos]] 23:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trainer Battles? ==
We don't have any trainer battles on here, you know, like the duo Grunts and then the double battle with Mars and Jupiter. And of course we have Cyrus too. Is there a reason we don't mention it? Should I post the battle information? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 20:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:Odd. If {{tt|you|or someone}} can get the grunts, I'll copypaste the Admins' information from other parts of the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's a double battle, a female Grunt and a male Grunt. If the side the Grunts show up on matches the Pokémon they own, then the female owns a level 38 Stunky and a level 38 Glameow; and the male owns a level 38 Dustox and a level 38 Croagunk. Player gets 6080 for winning. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 00:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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Crystal Shards: /* Welcome Message */

Magikarp (Pokémon)

2009-07-31T23:08:10Z

Crystal Shards: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Tauros | next=Gyarados|type=water|| prevnum=128| nextnum=130}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Magikarp |
jname=コイキング |
tmname=Koiking |
image=129Magikarp.png |
size=130 |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
pron=<sc>''mag''-i-karp</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
ndex=129 |
jdex=076 |
hdex=052 |
fdex=124 |
sdex=023 |
typen=1 |
type1=Water |
type2= |
species=Fish |
height-ftin=2'11" |
height-m=0.9 |
weight-lbs=22.0 |
weight-kg=10.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Swift Swim |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 2 |
egggroup2=Dragon |
eggcycles=5 |
evsp=1 |
expyield=20 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Red |
catchrate=255 |
body=03 |
pokefordex=magikarp |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Magikarp''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''コイキング''' ''Koiking'') is a {{type2|Water}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Gyarados}} starting at [[level]] 20.

Due to its low [[stats]] (Speed, however, at 80, being the highest) and the fact that it only has the move {{m|Splash}} until level 15, Magikarp is often considered the weakest Pokémon in existence.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Magikarp is a reddish-orange, medium-sized fish. Its notable characteristics include large, heavy scales. Its fins are primarily white, but it has a stiff, three-peaked fins on its back and stomach which are both yellow. It also has long barbels.

====Gender differences====
A female has white barbels, and a male has tan barbs.

====Special abilities====
Long-lived Magikarp are able to utilize their immense {{m|splash}}ing power to leap high enough to jump mountains. Magikarp also have a strong enough immune system to survive in the most polluted of waters.

===Behavior===
Although this Pokémon is capable of surviving in even the most polluted ponds, it is usually overlooked by trainers because it is pathetically weak: even in the heat of battle it will do nothing but flop around. It is not a strong swimmer, and currents in the water will sweep it downstream. They are normally seen using {{m|Splash}}, which is unusual, as it makes them easy targets to predators. Before the species multiplied, it is believed that the ancestors of Magikarp were actually much stronger than the Magikarp seen today, and this belief has led scientists to research this species.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Watersedge.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Water's-edge Pokémon}}]]
Magikarp is found in many bodies of water, such as lakes, rivers, and ponds. However, due to its weak swimming ability it usually lives downstream of the water's flow.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Jessie_magikarp.jpg|thumb|right|210px|{{TP|Jessie|Magikarp}} in the anime]]
Several episodes, the first one being in ''[[EP015|Battle Aboard the St. Anne]]'', involve a particular [[Magikarp salesman|salesman]] trying to sell certain Pokémon to someone. The person he is usually trying to con is [[James]] and he usually sells {{TP|Magikarp salesman|Magikarp}}, claiming that they're very valuable.

[[Team Rocket]] used a Magikarp-shaped submarine during the [[Orange Islands]].

Several Magikarp appeared in ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]'' swimming along with [[Team Rocket]]'s Magikarp-shaped submarine.

In ''[[EP092|The Joy of Pokémon]]'', a [[Nurse Joy]] from the Orange Islands befriended a giant Magikarp that saved her as a child. It evolved into an equally large Gyarados, but it remained friendly.

In ''[[EP109|The Wacky Watcher]]'', {{Ash}}, [[Misty]] and {{Tracey}} help a Pokémon Watcher named [[Quincy T. Quackenpoker]] observe the migration and evolution of a school of Magikarp.

In ''[[AG092|Judgement Day]]'', a {{shiny2}} Magikarp appeared in a flashback under the ownership of {{ho|Jimmy}} and was later traded.

Another, in ''[[DP021|Ya See We Want an Evolution]]'', was nicknamed the strongest. This Magikarp was unique in that it was in fact able to battle suprisingly well, even giving Pikachu a hard time.

A Magikarp appeared in ''[[DP086|Arriving in Style!]]''.

In ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team]]'', Jessie used a different Magikarp in the second leg of the Pokémon Triathlon.

It was also seen as part of [[Lila]]'s famous "Tiger Lily Smile" background in ''[[DP095|Battling the Generation Gap!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP021|Magikarp|Dawn's Pokédex|Magikarp. The Fish Pokémon. Magikarp can live in the dirtiest of water. It jumps very well and can evolve into {{p|Gyarados}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Special===
Magikarp was seen at the [[Lake of Rage]], being forcibly evolved into {{p|Gyarados}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Magikarp (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=1
|redbluedex=In the distant past, it was somewhat stronger than the horribly weak descendants that exist today.
|yellowdex=Famous for being very unreliable. It can be found swimming in seas, lakes, rivers and shallow puddles.
|golddex=An underpowered, pathetic Pokémon. It may jump high on rare occasions, but never more than seven feet.
|silverdex=For no reason, it jumps and splashes about, making it easy for predators like {{p|Pidgeotto}} to catch it mid-jump.
|stadiumdex=Whoever its opponent, and however horrible the attack it receives, all it does is {{m|Splash}} around.
|crystaldex=This weak and pathetic Pokémon gets easily pushed along rivers when there are strong currents.
|stadium2dex=An underpowered, pathetic Pokémon. It may jump high on rare occasions, but never more then seven feet.
|rubydex=Magikarp is a pathetic excuse for a Pokémon that is only capable of flopping and splashing. This behavior prompted scientists to undertake research into it.
|sapphiredex=Magikarp is virtually useless in battle as it can only splash around. As a result, it is considered to be weak. However, it is actually a very hardy Pokémon that can survive in any body of water no matter how polluted it is.
|emeralddex=Its swimming muscles are weak, so it is easily washed away by currents. In places where water pools, you can see many Magikarp deposited there by the flow.
|firereddex=It is virtually worthless in terms of both power and speed. It is the most weak and pathetic Pokémon in the world.
|leafgreendex=In the distant past, it was somewhat stronger than the horribly weak descendants that exist today.
|diamonddex=It is said to be the world's weakest Pokémon. No one knows why it has managed to survive.
|pearldex=It is unable to swim against even slow-moving currents. It always {{M|splash}}es about for some reason.
|platinumdex=A Magikarp living for many years can leap a mountain using {{m|Splash}}. The move remains useless, though.}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Common |
rbarea=Fish with [[Old Rod]] Buy from [[Magikarp Salesman]] for {{PDollar}}500|
yrarity=Common |
yarea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old Rod]] |
gsrarity=Common |
gsarea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old]] or [[Good Rod]] |
crarity=Common |
carea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old]] or [[Good Rod]] |
rsrarity=Common |
rsarea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old]] or [[Good Rod]] |
erarity=Common |
earea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old]] or [[Good Rod]] |
frlgrarity=Common |
frlgarea=Fish with [[Old Rod]] Buy from [[Magikarp Salesman]] for {{PDollar}}500|
dprarity=Common |
dparea=Fish with [[Old Rod]] Trade {{p|Finneon}} on [[Route 226]] ([[Meister|German]]) |
ptrarity=Common |
ptarea=Fish with [[Old Rod|Old]] or [[Good Rod]] Trade {{p|Finneon}} on [[Route 226]] ([[Meister|German]]) Fish with [[Super Rod]] ([[Resort Area]]) |
palarea=Pond |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=water
|snap=[[Pokémon Island Beach|Beach]], [[Pokémon Island Tunnel|Tunnel]] [[Pokémon Island Volcano|Volcano]], [[Pokémon Island River|River]] [[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]], [[Pokémon Island Valley|Valley]]
|channel=[[Cobalt Coast|Secret Cove]]
|pinballrs=Ocean (Ruby Field)
|trozei=[[SOL Laboratory 3]] [[Secret Storage 5]] [[Secret Storage 19]] [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Waterfall Pond]] (7F-11F)
|ranger=[[Safra Sea]] [[Sekra Mountain Range]]
|md2=[[End Lake]] (B1-B24)
}}

Magikarp will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:X ? ? S ? ? X ? 4 6 8 ?
:♀ + ? ? 9 7 5 6 S Y ? ?
:Objective: Rescue Magikarp on floor 12 of [[Stormy Sea]].

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 20 |
Attack= 10 |
Defense=55 |
SpAtk= 15 |
SpDef= 20 |
Special=20 |
Speed= 80 |
type=Water }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Magikarp}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|water|water|4|1|Magikarp}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Splash|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|15|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|30|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
None.
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
None.
====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|water|water|4|1|Magikarp}}
{{mtentry4|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5|Cute|1||''|no|no|no|no|yes|}}
{{tutor/note|4|water}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====
*{{m|Dragon Rage}} {{ic|Dragon}}
*{{m|Rage}} {{ic|Normal}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=water |
ndex=129 |
Pincatch=yes |
PinRScatch=yes |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=9.2% |
area=Waterfall Lake |
P1=I'm the world's weakest Pokémon. You knew that, yes? |
P2=Huh? Look, my health is down by half already. |
P3=I'm not much good now. I have almost no HP left. |
PL=Look, my level went up! But I'm probably still weak... |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Water |
typeA=Water |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=3 |
MinEXP=5 |
MaxEXP=5 |
browser=Magikarp appears to be only capable of flopping about helplessly. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=C |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|129|Magikarp|1|Water||[[Level|Level 20]]|130|Gyarados|2|Water|Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=1|
gender=both|
ndex=129|
name=Magikarp|
}}

==Trivia==
* As of {{game|Platinum}}, Magikarp is tied at the lowest (with {{p|Regigigas}}), and ironically, the highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture at level 1 and 100, beating out even the level 80 {{p|Arceus}} for highest. It is only available in a pond in the [[Resort Area]] with a [[Super Rod]] in Platinum, where only Magikarp can be caught and range in levels anywhere from level 1 to 100.
* Magikarp, as well as Gyarados, has been in all four regional [[Pokédex]]es.
* A glitch in the early Japanese games, Red, Green, and Blue, allowed players to transform their Magikarp into a {{p|Mew}}. However, this Mew was not registered in the [[Pokédex]], did not have the same stats nor moves, and caused some major glitches to the player's items pack.
* Even though Magikarp is said to be the weakest Pokémon in existence, there are seven Pokémon weaker than it and one equal to it in terms of [[List of Pokémon by base stats|base stat average]].
* Magikarp is one of three {{type2|Water}}s that cannot learn {{m|Surf}}, as well as the only Water-type that cannot learn any Ice-type moves.
* Magikarp is one of fourteen Pokémon that one could collect [[Meister|foreign Pokédex entries]] in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}.
* Magikarp shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Feebas}}. They are both known as the Fish Pokémon.
* Magikarp's Platinum sprite is the only sprite which shows it with its mouth closed.
* Even though it's listed as a freshwater Pokémon, it's abundant in oceans as well.
* Magikarp takes the shortest time to hatch out of all Pokémon.
* Every one of Magikarp's Pokédex entries talks about either its lack of strength, its tendency to {{m|Splash}}, or both.
* Magikarp's FireRed Pokédex entry remarks on its lack of power and speed. While the power part is true, Magikarp in fact sports a base 80 speed stat, making it actually quite fast.

===Origin===
Magikarp is based on a legend about how carp that leapt over the Dragon Gate would become dragons. Several waterfalls and cataracts in China are believed to be the location of the Dragon Gate. This legend is an allegory of the drive and efforts needed to overcome obstacles.

Magikarp may also be based on Asian carps, which are easily frightened by disturbances in water and can jump 8-10 feet in the air.
====Name origin====
Magikarp's name is a combination of ''magic'' and ''{{wp|carp}}'' (this may be mocking the Magikarp as a species, as someone with 'magic' powers is generally thought to be quite powerful, which Magikarp is not). It may also the combination of ''Magi'', the three kings from the story of the {{wp|Nativity of Jesus|Nativity}}, and ''carp''. Its Japanese name is a combination of 鯉 ''{{wp|koi}}'', carp, and the English word ''king'', given its name an ironic slant similar to its English name.

==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Karpador
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Magicarpe
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 잉어킹 ''Ingeoking''
* Brazilian Portuguese (animé only): Magicarpa

==Related articles==
* [[Jessie's Magikarp]]
* [[James's Gyarados|James's Magikarp]]
* [[Magikarp salesman]]
* [[Magikarp salesman's Magikarp]]

==External links==

==Notes==
<references />

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Tauros | next=Gyarados |type=water|| prevnum=128| nextnum=130}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Karpador]]
[[fr:Magicarpe]]
[[ja:コイキング]]
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Many changes has happened in {{game|Platinum}} that have not been added to a lot of location pages. Add all information to location pages that have changed since {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, such as Geography, Pokémon under another section, and trainers under another section. Help upgrade all the location pages to the Platinum standard.
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<big>'''Trainer Hill'''</big>

'''Trainer Hill''' (Japanese: '''トレーナーヒル''' ''Trainer Hill''), located just north of [[Mauville City]], on {{rt|111}}, is a {{game|Emerald}}-exclusive location. Much like the [[Trainer Tower]] in the [[Sevii Islands]], Trainer Hill is a tower designed for trainers to race and battle through quickly.

In the Japanese version, ''Pokémon Battle Card e+'' may be scanned in to change the floor design and opponent trainers. The last seven scanned trainers inhabit the tower, and the item won for a completing Trainer Hill quickly varies based on which opponents are in the tower.

Trainers scanned from e+ cards appear on four kinds of Trainer Card, denoting their difficulty level: green, copper, silver, and gold. If a trainer's card has three [[Poké Ball]] symbols on the right of their belt, they will Double Team with a trainer who has their Poké Ball symbols on the left of their belt.

'''[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Trainer_Hill&action=edit Expand this article]'''
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==Article status==
===Featured articles===
[[Image:Itemball gen3.jpg]] [[The Underground]]

===Best Practice Article===
[[Image:Itemball gen3.jpg]] [[Cerulean Cave]] 
[[Image:Itemball gen3.jpg]] [[Mt. Moon]] 
[[Image:Itemball gen3.jpg]] [[Viridian Forest]] 
[[Image:Itemball gen3.jpg]] [[Turnback Cave]]

==Structure==
===Infobox information===
Articles should use {{template|Infobox location}}, and all known information should be supplied. A example Infobox is shown below.

===Main section===
Untitled section that describes the location. Depending on the location, this section may just describe where it is located in the Pokémon world and basic details regarding the area, or may go into considerable detail. Regardless, all text describing the location should be in this section.

===Geography===
A geographical description of the location, including similarities to places in reality. This is to include all parts of the location.

===Items===
A list of items found in this location as well as a description of where the items are. These are to be placed in dot points with a short description on how to find it.

===Pokémon===
A list of Pokémon that appear in this location as well as encounter rates and times of encounter if possible. Lists should be separated by Generation using third-level headlines. If the route appeared in only one Generation, then the Generation heading is not necessary. See {{rt|1}} and {{rt|132}} for examples of tables.

Lists should be organized in order of location, then highest to lowest encounter rate. If the encounter rate for a Pokémon is lower in a different game, a repeat of the entry should be made directly underneath except with that particular game highlighted (instead of in the initial entry), and the different encounter rate stated. In the case of multiple Pokémon with the same encounter rate, Pokémon should be listed in order of games they are available in, then their [[Ndex|National Pokédex]] number.

===Differences among Generations===
If the location was featured in multiple versions and Generations of Pokémon, the differences between those should be discussed here. A gallery of different generations can be placed here to show the differences.

===See also===
Place all internal links here, that have reference or significance to the article.

===References===
Place all references here.

===External links===
Place all external links which are not references here.

===Categories===
All articles should use the following category:
*<nowiki>[[Category:(Region) locations]]</nowiki> where (Region) is either Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, or Sevii

All articles should use the following categories where applicable:
*<nowiki>[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Emerald locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]</nowiki>

==Templates==
===Infobox===
The Infobox to use for this project is {{template|Infobox location}}.

This is the basic syntax you need to get a complete routebox on the article page, just place this before any other text and fill in the variables.
<pre>
{{Infobox location
|image=
|type=
|location_name=
|japanese_name=
|translated_name=
|location=
|region=
|generation=
}}
</pre>
{{Infobox location
|image=FL Safari Zone.png
|type=land
|location_name=Safari Zone
|japanese_name=サファリゾーン
|translated_name=Safari Zone
|location=North of [[Fuchsia City]]
|region=Kanto
|generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|III}}
}}
For the above parameters, here's what you should fill in:
* '''image:''' name of an image for the location on Bulbagarden Archives
* '''type:''' is the type of place the location is located on, or what it is - land, road, water, or cave. This determines how the infobox is colored. (If omitted, color is white.)
* '''location_name:''' name of the location
* '''japanese_name:''' Japanese name of the location
* '''translated_name:''' Romanization of the location's Japanese name
* '''other_info:''' ''(optional)'' use for alternate names, an additional descriptor, etc.
* '''location:''' a brief description of where the article location is found
* '''region:''' the region that the location is in
* '''generation:''' a list of all generations of games this location has appeared in. <nowiki>Handy template shortcuts include {{subst:Gen|I}} for Generation I, {{subst:Gen|II}} for Generation II, and {{subst:Gen|III}} for Generation III.</nowiki>

By completing the infobox as follows, you'll get a routebox like the one to the right.
<pre>
{{Infobox location
|image=FL Safari Zone.png
|type=land
|location_name=Safari Zone
|japanese_name=サファリゾーン
|translated_name=Safari Zone
|location=North of [[Fuchsia City]]
|region=Kanto
|generation={{Gen|I}}, {{Gen|III}}
}}
</pre>

 

===Other templates===
<noinclude>{|border="1" cellspacing="0"
|-
! What to type !! What it makes !! Notes
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| {{template|Project Locations notice}}
| {{Project Locations notice}}
| To be placed on the '''bottom''' of all articles covered by this project below the article to designate the article as part of this project.
|-
| {{template|User Project Locations}}
| {{User Project Locations}}
| Userbox for participants of this project.
|-
| {{template|Locationstub}}
| {{Locationstub}}
| Designates this article relating to Pokémon world locations as a stub.
|}
</noinclude>

==Other projects==
===Subprojects===
The descendants of this project are:
* {{bp|Project Cities and Towns}}
* {{bp|Project Routes}}

[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|Locations]]
|}

Bulbapedia:Project Games

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Crystal Shards: /* Participants */

{{Project leader|{{u|Sher-e-Bengal}}}}
[[Image:Project-games-notice.PNG|right|200px]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about '''the [[Pokémon games]]'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the talk page or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum].

==Project Games==
===Scope===
Project Games covers all articles about the [[Pokémon games]].

===Aims===
* To improve all articles related to the [[Version|main series]] games.
* To add sufficient information about all the [[Spin-off Pokémon games|spin-off games]].
* To take the articles about the main series games to a featured articles level.

===Participants===
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:

* '''{{u|Sher-e-Bengal}}''' - Founder and {{bp|Project Leaders|Project Leader}}
* {{u|Politoed666}} - Writing LOTS of articles on [[Pokémon Trozei!]].
* {{u|ShinjiLover}}
* {{u|Maria-williams}}
* {{u|FLAMER}}
* {{u|Sacrifice}}
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|Clarky13}}
* {{u|LucarioSinnoh}}
* {{u|Ced12}}
* {{u|Kevzo8}}
* {{u|Prongs}}
* {{u|Okoa}}
* {{u|MysteryHeff?}}
* {{u|Tavisource}}
* {{u|Akivalevi}}
* {{u|Ziaix}}
* {{u|Alpha Totodile}}
* {{u|Jonbobsmith}}
* {{u|AvalonTreman}}
* {{u|Giratina Warrior}}
* {{u|Manaphy1}}
* {{u|swampert_rox}} - Writing whatever articles I think of
* {{u|water555}}
* {{u|Lunick v sonela}} - (Obsesed)
* {{u|Crystal Shards}} - I'll do what I can!

===Structure===



===Goals===
# To make comprehensive articles about everything related to all the Pokémon games.

===Infoboxes===
* {{Template|Infobox game}}

{{Infobox game}}

 

===Other templates===
* {{Template|Project Games notice}}

{{Project Games notice}}

* {{Template|Gamestub}}

{{gamestub}}

* {{Template|User Project Games}}

{{User Project Games}}

==Other projects==
===Parent project===
This project has no parent project.



===Subprojects===
** [[Bulbapedia:Project BerryDex|BerryDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex|CharacterDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|GlitchDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project ItemDex|ItemDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project MoveDex|MoveDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex|Pokédex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project SpriteDex|SpriteDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Trainer Class|Trainer Class]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs|Walkthroughs]]

===Related projects===
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Talk:Spear Pillar

2009-07-31T20:40:09Z

Crystal Shards:

Talk:Mount Coronet

2009-07-31T18:53:32Z

Crystal Shards:

User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:52:02Z

Crystal Shards: /* Talk Page Comments */

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==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:I didn't delete a comment, I erased my welcome message, because I felt it was unneeded, which to me ISN'T "no reason." Please don't tell me what to do with my Talk Page. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Before you try and delete it again, read {{bp|Talk page|this policy}}. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 18:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's probably the stupidest policy I've ever heard of. If I don't want my welcome message I should have every right to delete it. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm not an admin, so you should {{bp|Administrators|talk to an administrator.}} --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 18:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::: I have already brought it up. I know how the process works. My account may be new, but I'm not a new user to the internet. Sorry if I'm seeming rude. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Look sweetie, it doesn't matter if you're wiki familiar. Everyone gets the welcome message. You're not special. If it bugs you that much, then archive it. You do that by moving your talk page to '''User talk:Crystal Shards/Archive 1'''. You'll have to replace the redirect on your talk page and replace it with the that link. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::: I never said I was special, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me sweetie. I don't know you, and you don't know me. Anyway, it's not a big deal, it's just stupid that people get in trouble for deleting something they don't want. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:46:42Z

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User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:40:24Z

Crystal Shards: /* Talk Page Comments */

==Welcome==
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==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:I didn't delete a comment, I erased my welcome message, because I felt it was unneeded, which to me ISN'T "no reason." Please don't tell me what to do with my Talk Page. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Before you try and delete it again, read {{bp|Talk page|this policy}}. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 18:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's probably the stupidest policy I've ever heard of. If I don't want my welcome message I should have every right to delete it. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm not an admin, so you should {{bp|Administrators|talk to an administrator.}} --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 18:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::::: I have already brought it up. I know how the process works. My account may be new, but I'm not a new user to the internet. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Talk page

2009-07-31T18:38:12Z

Crystal Shards:

User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:34:59Z

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User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:31:00Z

Crystal Shards:

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:I didn't delete a comment, I erased my welcome message, because I felt it was unneeded, which to me ISN'T "no reason." Please don't tell me what to do with my Talk Page. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 18:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:22:57Z

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User talk:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:06:33Z

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User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:05:53Z

Crystal Shards:

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・YIM: orangeismylife 
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・LJ: [http://crystal-mercury.livejournal.com/ Crystal Mercury] 
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・[[Special:Contributions/Crystal_Shards|Contributions]] 
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'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior. She enjoys tennis, soccer, reading, and writing, and absolutely loves her website, Mercury Ice.

User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:02:53Z

Crystal Shards:

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<div style="text-align: center;">'''Contact'''</div>
・[mailto:admin@mercuryice.com Email] 
・AIM: crystalnshards 
・YIM: orangeismylife 
・Website: [http://mercuryice.com Mercury Ice] 
・LJ: [http://crystal-mercury.livejournal.com/ Crystal Mercury] 
・GPX+: [http://gpxplus.net/user/Crystal+Shards Crystal Shards] 
・On [[Bulbagarden forums|BMGf]]: [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=28737 Crystal Shards] 
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・[[Special:Contributions/Crystal_Shards|Contributions]] 
・[[User:Crystal Shards/To-do list|To-do list]]

'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior. She enjoys tennis, soccer, reading, and writing, and absolutely loves her website, Mercury Ice.

User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T18:00:30Z

Crystal Shards:

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<div style="text-align: center;">'''Contact'''</div>
・[mailto:admin@mercuryice.com Email] 
・AIM: crystalnshards 
・YIM: orangeismylife 
・Website: [http://mercuryice.com Mercury Ice] 
・LJ: [http://crystal-mercury.livejournal.com/ Crystal Mercury] 
・GPX+: [http://gpxplus.net/user/Crystal+Shards Crystal Shards] 
・On [[Bulbagarden forums|BMGf]]: [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=28737 Crystal Shards] 
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・[[Special:Contributions/Crystal_Shards|Contributions]] 
・[[User:Crystal Shards/To-do list|To-do list]]

'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior. She enjoys tennis, soccer, reading, and writing, and absolutely loves her website, Mercury Ice.

User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T17:42:49Z

Crystal Shards:

User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T17:40:03Z

Crystal Shards:

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'''Crystal Shards''' ・[[Special:Contributions/Crystal_Shards|Contributions]] ・[[User:Crystal Shards/To-do list|To-do list]]
 
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<div style="text-align: center;">'''Contact'''</div>
・[mailto:admin@mercuryice.com Email] 
・AIM: crystalnshards 
・YIM: orangeismylife 
・LJ: [http://crystal-mercury.livejournal.com/ Crystal Mercury] 
・GPX+: [http://gpxplus.net/user/Crystal+Shards Crystal Shards] 
・On [[Bulbagarden forums|BMGf]]: [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=28737 Crystal Shards] 
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'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior.

User:Crystal Shards

2009-07-31T17:39:38Z

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<div style="text-align: center;">'''Contact'''</div>
・[mailto:admin@mercuryice.com Email] 
・AIM: crystalnshards 
・YIM: orangeismylife 
・LJ: [http://crystal-mercury.livejournal.com/ Crystal Mercury] 
・GPX+: [http://gpxplus.net/user/Crystal+Shards Crystal Shards] 
・On [[Bulbagarden forums|BMGf]]: [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=28737 Crystal Shards] 
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'''Crystal Shards''' is a former Pokémaniac who has recently renewed her love for Pokémon. She has beaten Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, the Pokemon Trading Game, and Sapphire, and is currently working on Diamond. She is proud of having brought Pokémon to her elementary school by drawing Pikachu in art class, which help start her obsession. She has over 2000 unique Pokémon cards in English, German, French, Italian, Japanese, and probably others.

Crystal Shards's real name is Crystal (big surprise). She's a military brat who has been to 24 countries and currently resides in Indiana, where she attends university for English and Psychology, with a minor in German. She's a junior.