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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I has nothing... So far...?&lt;br /&gt;
{{{{:User:Carnivine/Missionbase/Secret Mission 2 Prize}}}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Constant</name></author>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: New page: I has nothing but Userboxes....So far. -&amp;gt;  {{Userboxtop |My Addiction @_@}} {{{{:User:Carnivine/Missionbase/Secret Mission 2 Prize}}}} {{Userboxbottom}}&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I has nothing but Userboxes....So far. -&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Userboxtop |My Addiction @_@}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{{{:User:Carnivine/Missionbase/Secret Mission 2 Prize}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Userboxbottom}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Constant</name></author>
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		<title>Talk:Platinum (Adventures)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: /* Dawn/Berlitz */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;No sources so I`m renaming Berlitz `The Lady` {{unsigned|Random Dude123}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, well, if you open up a character map and check the characters like I did, you can see the characters of her name are &#039;Be&#039;, &#039;Ru&#039;, &#039;Ri&#039;, &#039;Tu&#039;, and &#039;Tu&#039;.  So, um, I think it&#039;s assumable there&#039;s SOME source on it.&lt;br /&gt;
:On another note, though, before changing it to something like &#039;The Lady&#039;, you should wait and see, because that&#039;s really a terrible and non-specific name for an article.&lt;br /&gt;
:And on another note, that&#039;s NOT how you move articles.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Were did you find this infomation?&lt;br /&gt;
-Random Dude132&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever considered that some of us actually go out to buy and read this stuff? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 07:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And besides, look at these three pages about the new main cast: [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_ho_01.html 1] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/na_zukann/zukann_na_01.html 2] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_hi_01.html 3]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyone think her first name will be Opal? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since this would work for the third version, with Giritina as the cover pokemon. Not only does Opal actually work for a girl&#039;s name, but it also associated with Giritina. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn&#039;t matter what we think. If it&#039;s not canon, all there can be is baseless speculation. What if they do a third version with a green stone instead, like Jade? That&#039;s a girl&#039;s name, too. And it&#039;s {{p|Giratina}}. Don&#039;t worry, we&#039;ll know in due time. Plus... you oughta capitalize Pokémon and use the accented e. It&#039;s down in the character pallete, or you could hit Alt + 130 to generate it as you type. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, it&#039;s more correct to use the ASCII equivalent, alt+0233 (don&#039;t forget the zero) [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know it&#039;s just an assumption, but doesn&#039;t it APPEAR to be true? Giratina&#039;s association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don&#039;t see anything related to Jade around. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can&#039;t risk putting something that&#039;s not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that&#039;s an organic stubstance that&#039;s considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they&#039;re grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to {{p|Arseus}} in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there&#039;ll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it&#039;s unknown, there&#039;s no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there&#039;s very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo&#039;s doing a third version. They&#039;ve done it the past three generations, first time they didn&#039;t was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that&#039;s my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we&#039;d risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you&#039;ve done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can&#039;t help but admire you for all you have to say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hey, I try. I&#039;d probably do the same thing if this was back in Gen III before Emerald, even though I always figured that it was a for sure thing that it would be. Can&#039;t say that I didn&#039;t doubt that Nintendo would somehow come up with a way-out-there idea for the third version, though, that wouldn&#039;t have Rayquaza on it, like a Topaz, to go with Yellow like RS do with RB. That turned into FRLG, though, which was a pretty big upset either way.&lt;br /&gt;
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::...fact is, there&#039;s nothing stopping Nintendo from making Amethyst Version with {{p|Crecelia}} on it, Amethyst was once up there with diamonds, rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the most precious of the gems. Heck, that&#039;d be a reference back to the GSC mascots much like RSE was back to RGB. We&#039;d have x49, x50, and one of the run-around-the-region guys, whereas last time, we had three totally related ones, just like in RGB.&lt;br /&gt;
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::So yeah, could be anything in the world, especially with 14 legendaries that could be on the cover. Whatever it is, though, it&#039;ll be a surprise. And psssssst. Don&#039;t forget to put four tildes (~) in a row to sign your comments. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might possibly be Quartz, from the &#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039; in Berli&#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039;. I haven&#039;t heard much or followed a lot of Generation IV news, so I probably wouldn&#039;t be the one to figure this out. [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So, I&#039;m running some polls about this topic out of boredom, and you&#039;d be surprised to see just how many people are convinced that the next version will be Opal/Girasol. A lot of them are even jerks about other versions existing. And I mean, Amethyst is believable, but it&#039;s just that Giritina is like Rayquaza in a lot of ways, and also relates to the dragons. Now ivory? They wouldn&#039;t release a version about an event pokemon. And Crescelia? I&#039;m just not convinced, because that would deal with another event one. [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Who says they won&#039;t release one about an event Pokémon? Before Crystal, you&#039;d&#039;ve thought they&#039;d never release one with one of a legendary trio on the box without the other two on the other two versions, right? And Crecelia&#039;s not as much event as it is like Latios and Latias. Heck, Yellow was an odd choice for a third version of Red/Blue. Pikachu barely relates to Charizard and Blastoise. The only third version we&#039;ve seen so far whose mascot relates to the first two completely was Emerald. And... that&#039;s not counting Red/Green and Blue, since that got a fourth version, which became everyone else&#039;s third. Or something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It goes a little something like this, in my vision:&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | First/Second versions&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Third version&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Image:006.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:009.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Image:025.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Red|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Red&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Blue|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blue&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Yellow|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Yellow&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Fire (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Water (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Water&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | Special [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Image:250.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Image:249.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Image:245.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Gold|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Gold&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Silver|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Silver&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Crystal|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Tin Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tin Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Brass Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Brass Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Legendary beasts|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Legendary beast&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Image:383.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:382.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Image:384.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Ruby|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ruby&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Sapphire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sapphire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Emerald|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Emerald&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Sunlight&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Rain&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Weather&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:483.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:484.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size:250%;&amp;quot; |?&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Diamond|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Diamond&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Pearl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Pearl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | [[Generation IV|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Version 3&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Master of Time&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | Master of Space&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | ??????????&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can guess the third may be [[Arceus]], Master of Universe; it&#039;s possible. Also, Pearl and Diamond are gemstones, Berlitz are only last names of people. [[User:ROMaster2|ROMaster2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version&#039;s starter (and, as I said, it&#039;s based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn&#039;t have 4 doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s how they were created. [[Green (Special)|Green]] as a character shouldn&#039;t even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there&#039;s a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz&#039;s given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an &amp;quot;o&amp;quot; at the beginning. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Note also that Ho-oh is related to the more gold-coloured Brass Tower, and Lugia to the Tin Tower.  Just because Ho-oh is called to the Tin Tower by the Rainbow Wing doesn&#039;t make it Ho-oh&#039;s domain.  Originally Lugia sat atop Tin, and Ho-oh atop Brass.  There were two real towers on either side of a lake in Kyoto as well - and the Gold-leaved tower burnt down, like the Brass Tower.  It also had a statue of the Houou bird atop it.  The reason the anime get confused about two Tin Towers is because Ho-oh originally atop Brass Tower, and then moved to the Tin Tower ONLY when it was summoned there by the Rainbow Wing held by the GSC player.  The Legendary Beasts were ultimately tied to the fate of the Twin Towers and the Silver and Gold Birds who sat upon those respective towers.  Suicune happens to be the beast that is the most connected with purification, like Celebi, who was also the focus of Crystal (at least in the Japanese version), so it gets the place on the box.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::That being said, I highly believe that Giratina will be the fourth version and Opal Berlitz be the full name of the new Special protagonist.  However, that a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon will be the star of the version seems quite strange.  But Giratina is most likely the version mascot.  Cresselia and Amethyst fit as well with Dialga and Palkia, and regardless, it&#039;s still a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon.  Arceus... I just can&#039;t see an event Pokémon as the mascot, because then the event would have to be built into the game, making the event in Diamond and Pearl lose meaning because you can just trade Arceus to your Diamond or Pearl versions after getting to that point in the third game.  Plus, if the movies are any indication, Girantina will be fighting a huge war of gods in the 11th Movie, against Dialga and Palkia (and perhaps Regigigas as well), which seems to indicate his connection with the other two Dimensional Dragon Gods of Sinnoh.  I just wonder how his story will be elaborated on.  But I digress.  As long as Giratina is the mascot of the third game, it will get a name like Opal or Girasol, and thus Berlitz will be Opal Berlitz.  I doubt the use of Girasol Version, because it sounds ridiculous, and no kid will know what a Girasol is unless they are like my kid brother who&#039;s intensely into rocks and minerals.  [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Phil]] 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dawn/Berlitz == &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else thing it should be mentioned &#039;&#039;somewhere&#039;&#039; that Berlitz has resemblance to Dawn from the anime?  ([[User:Constant|Constant]] 16:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:Dawn from the anime, however, has a resemblance to Dawn from the games. From what I&#039;ve seen, I think Special is closer to the games than anime, so.. yeah. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 16:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either way, Dawn from the anime resembles Berlitz from the Special and Dawn/Female PC from the games. You can switch that around however you choose, but still, anyone who has eyes and can see can probably see the resemblance. Not to sound sour, because I probably do. ([[User:Constant|Constant]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[Inter-media counterparts]] they are. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 22:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So is that a yes or no? o.O - [[User:Constant|Constant]] 10:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dawn%27s_Piplup&amp;diff=310540</id>
		<title>Talk:Dawn&#039;s Piplup</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Bide?==&lt;br /&gt;
I think Pochama used Bide aganist the Ariados...I&#039;m not sure though. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 23:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It did. - Paperfairy @ 20:35 03/19/2007&lt;br /&gt;
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== Piplup&#039;s voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Piplup is voiced by [[Jamie Peacock]] cause in a way it sounds like [[Ash&#039;s Cyndaquil]]. {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}}&lt;br /&gt;
:That could be true... Though I can&#039;t be sure because they never list the voices for Pokémon in the credits (except for Pikachu). --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0005CD;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;☆&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#15E200;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ケンジ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#DC0062;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ガール&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Level/Evolving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be said that Piplup might not evolve? It knows Whirlpool which is a level 32 move, and evolves into Prinplup at level 16... Or would that be purely speculation? - [[User:Constant|Constant]] 10:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Platinum_(Adventures)&amp;diff=278940</id>
		<title>Talk:Platinum (Adventures)</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-12T17:52:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: /* Dawn/Berlitz */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;No sources so I`m renaming Berlitz `The Lady` {{unsigned|Random Dude123}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, well, if you open up a character map and check the characters like I did, you can see the characters of her name are &#039;Be&#039;, &#039;Ru&#039;, &#039;Ri&#039;, &#039;Tu&#039;, and &#039;Tu&#039;.  So, um, I think it&#039;s assumable there&#039;s SOME source on it.&lt;br /&gt;
:On another note, though, before changing it to something like &#039;The Lady&#039;, you should wait and see, because that&#039;s really a terrible and non-specific name for an article.&lt;br /&gt;
:And on another note, that&#039;s NOT how you move articles.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Were did you find this infomation?&lt;br /&gt;
-Random Dude132&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever considered that some of us actually go out to buy and read this stuff? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 07:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And besides, look at these three pages about the new main cast: [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_ho_01.html 1] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/na_zukann/zukann_na_01.html 2] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_hi_01.html 3]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyone think her first name will be Opal? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since this would work for the third version, with Giritina as the cover pokemon. Not only does Opal actually work for a girl&#039;s name, but it also associated with Giritina. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn&#039;t matter what we think. If it&#039;s not canon, all there can be is baseless speculation. What if they do a third version with a green stone instead, like Jade? That&#039;s a girl&#039;s name, too. And it&#039;s {{p|Giratina}}. Don&#039;t worry, we&#039;ll know in due time. Plus... you oughta capitalize Pokémon and use the accented e. It&#039;s down in the character pallete, or you could hit Alt + 130 to generate it as you type. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, it&#039;s more correct to use the ASCII equivalent, alt+0233 (don&#039;t forget the zero) [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know it&#039;s just an assumption, but doesn&#039;t it APPEAR to be true? Giratina&#039;s association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don&#039;t see anything related to Jade around. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can&#039;t risk putting something that&#039;s not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that&#039;s an organic stubstance that&#039;s considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they&#039;re grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to {{p|Arseus}} in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there&#039;ll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it&#039;s unknown, there&#039;s no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there&#039;s very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo&#039;s doing a third version. They&#039;ve done it the past three generations, first time they didn&#039;t was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that&#039;s my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we&#039;d risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you&#039;ve done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can&#039;t help but admire you for all you have to say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hey, I try. I&#039;d probably do the same thing if this was back in Gen III before Emerald, even though I always figured that it was a for sure thing that it would be. Can&#039;t say that I didn&#039;t doubt that Nintendo would somehow come up with a way-out-there idea for the third version, though, that wouldn&#039;t have Rayquaza on it, like a Topaz, to go with Yellow like RS do with RB. That turned into FRLG, though, which was a pretty big upset either way.&lt;br /&gt;
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::...fact is, there&#039;s nothing stopping Nintendo from making Amethyst Version with {{p|Crecelia}} on it, Amethyst was once up there with diamonds, rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the most precious of the gems. Heck, that&#039;d be a reference back to the GSC mascots much like RSE was back to RGB. We&#039;d have x49, x50, and one of the run-around-the-region guys, whereas last time, we had three totally related ones, just like in RGB.&lt;br /&gt;
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::So yeah, could be anything in the world, especially with 14 legendaries that could be on the cover. Whatever it is, though, it&#039;ll be a surprise. And psssssst. Don&#039;t forget to put four tildes (~) in a row to sign your comments. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might possibly be Quartz, from the &#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039; in Berli&#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039;. I haven&#039;t heard much or followed a lot of Generation IV news, so I probably wouldn&#039;t be the one to figure this out. [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So, I&#039;m running some polls about this topic out of boredom, and you&#039;d be surprised to see just how many people are convinced that the next version will be Opal/Girasol. A lot of them are even jerks about other versions existing. And I mean, Amethyst is believable, but it&#039;s just that Giritina is like Rayquaza in a lot of ways, and also relates to the dragons. Now ivory? They wouldn&#039;t release a version about an event pokemon. And Crescelia? I&#039;m just not convinced, because that would deal with another event one. [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Who says they won&#039;t release one about an event Pokémon? Before Crystal, you&#039;d&#039;ve thought they&#039;d never release one with one of a legendary trio on the box without the other two on the other two versions, right? And Crecelia&#039;s not as much event as it is like Latios and Latias. Heck, Yellow was an odd choice for a third version of Red/Blue. Pikachu barely relates to Charizard and Blastoise. The only third version we&#039;ve seen so far whose mascot relates to the first two completely was Emerald. And... that&#039;s not counting Red/Green and Blue, since that got a fourth version, which became everyone else&#039;s third. Or something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It goes a little something like this, in my vision:&lt;br /&gt;
{|border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; width=300px cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | First/Second versions&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Third version&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Image:006.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:009.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Image:025.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Red|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Red&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Blue|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blue&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Yellow|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Yellow&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Fire (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Water (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Water&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | Special [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Image:250.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Image:249.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Image:245.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Gold|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Gold&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Silver|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Silver&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Crystal|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Tin Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tin Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Brass Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Brass Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Legendary beasts|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Legendary beast&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Image:383.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:382.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Image:384.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Ruby|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ruby&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Sapphire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sapphire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Emerald|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Emerald&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Sunlight&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Rain&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Weather&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:483.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:484.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size:250%;&amp;quot; |?&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Diamond|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Diamond&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Pearl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Pearl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | [[Generation IV|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Version 3&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Master of Time&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | Master of Space&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | ??????????&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can guess the third may be [[Arceus]], Master of Universe; it&#039;s possible. Also, Pearl and Diamond are gemstones, Berlitz are only last names of people. [[User:ROMaster2|ROMaster2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version&#039;s starter (and, as I said, it&#039;s based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn&#039;t have 4 doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s how they were created. [[Green (Special)|Green]] as a character shouldn&#039;t even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there&#039;s a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz&#039;s given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an &amp;quot;o&amp;quot; at the beginning. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Note also that Ho-oh is related to the more gold-coloured Brass Tower, and Lugia to the Tin Tower.  Just because Ho-oh is called to the Tin Tower by the Rainbow Wing doesn&#039;t make it Ho-oh&#039;s domain.  Originally Lugia sat atop Tin, and Ho-oh atop Brass.  There were two real towers on either side of a lake in Kyoto as well - and the Gold-leaved tower burnt down, like the Brass Tower.  It also had a statue of the Houou bird atop it.  The reason the anime get confused about two Tin Towers is because Ho-oh originally atop Brass Tower, and then moved to the Tin Tower ONLY when it was summoned there by the Rainbow Wing held by the GSC player.  The Legendary Beasts were ultimately tied to the fate of the Twin Towers and the Silver and Gold Birds who sat upon those respective towers.  Suicune happens to be the beast that is the most connected with purification, like Celebi, who was also the focus of Crystal (at least in the Japanese version), so it gets the place on the box.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::That being said, I highly believe that Giratina will be the fourth version and Opal Berlitz be the full name of the new Special protagonist.  However, that a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon will be the star of the version seems quite strange.  But Giratina is most likely the version mascot.  Cresselia and Amethyst fit as well with Dialga and Palkia, and regardless, it&#039;s still a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon.  Arceus... I just can&#039;t see an event Pokémon as the mascot, because then the event would have to be built into the game, making the event in Diamond and Pearl lose meaning because you can just trade Arceus to your Diamond or Pearl versions after getting to that point in the third game.  Plus, if the movies are any indication, Girantina will be fighting a huge war of gods in the 11th Movie, against Dialga and Palkia (and perhaps Regigigas as well), which seems to indicate his connection with the other two Dimensional Dragon Gods of Sinnoh.  I just wonder how his story will be elaborated on.  But I digress.  As long as Giratina is the mascot of the third game, it will get a name like Opal or Girasol, and thus Berlitz will be Opal Berlitz.  I doubt the use of Girasol Version, because it sounds ridiculous, and no kid will know what a Girasol is unless they are like my kid brother who&#039;s intensely into rocks and minerals.  [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Phil]] 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dawn/Berlitz == &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else thing it should be mentioned &#039;&#039;somewhere&#039;&#039; that Berlitz has resemblance to Dawn from the anime?  ([[User:Constant|Constant]] 16:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:Dawn from the anime, however, has a resemblance to Dawn from the games. From what I&#039;ve seen, I think Special is closer to the games than anime, so.. yeah. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 16:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either way, Dawn from the anime resembles Berlitz from the Special and Dawn/Female PC from the games. You can switch that around however you choose, but still, anyone who has eyes and can see can probably see the resemblance. Not to sound sour, because I probably do. ([[User:Constant|Constant]])&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Constant</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Battle_Revolution&amp;diff=269210</id>
		<title>Talk:Pokémon Battle Revolution</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-31T16:52:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: /* Bonus Pokemon */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;But will this game have box-management features like Stadium 1/2 and Pokemon Box (unlike Colosseum/XD)?  That&#039;s a pretty important factor.  [[User:Czeano|Czeano]] 20:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, all it does is copy all of your pokemon onto the game, you can&#039;t actually store them or transfer them between games. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 15:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reception Desk, Hotel Astoria ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it OK if I add a &#039;&#039;&#039;Reception&#039;&#039;&#039; part to the article and all the other articles on Pokémon video games? [[User:MudkipNDS|MudkipNDS]] 01:09, 29 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:... uh, if you have a reliable source for that information, like reviews and such, then yes, you can add it.  Just proceed with caution.  It&#039;s a gray area that is difficult to be unbiased about. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also I&#039;d like to replace the Japanese box art with the American version. [[User:MudkipNDS|MudkipNDS]] 01:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC) Mario says (after 7/7/05 London incident) in bus...Mama -&#039;&#039;&#039;bleep&#039;&#039;&#039;-a!&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s generally standard procedure. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More info. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article should include more information about the items obtainable, costume items, etc. Or other pages holding this kind of information for PBR should be started. But, please, this article has no meat and/or bones. (Well, maybe bones.) -- [[User:MrWho|MrWho]] 19:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Special Pikachu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The pikachu I received from battle revolution only knew surf and not volt tackle. Does anyone know why?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bonus Pokemon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just bought PAL version of the game, and the listed codes for Electivire and Magmortar do not work. Can someone confirm?--[[User:Splunge|Splunge]] 11:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You must also use the dashes. it is case sensitive. i have confirmed it. --[[User:23-03-33|Tommy]] 23:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re definitely using the PAL version, as in the version just released in Australia? I&#039;ve been using the dashes all along, plus all caps and numbers where appropriate, and it doesn&#039;t register. Possibly it&#039;s a different code (if any) for a different region? If there is no Australian code, then that&#039;s fine, I just think it should be added to the article if there is a regional difference to the bonus pokemon.--[[User:Splunge|Splunge]] 13:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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OK, I&#039;ve just added a line to this section to clarify that the codes are for the NTSC version of the game only. I&#039;ve found other instances online of Australians unable to use these codes. --[[User:Splunge|Splunge]] 10:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;d be even better if you explained what those versions were. ([[User:Constant|Constant]] 16:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
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== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is there a list of the customizable items, like hats and stuff? -[[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Constant</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vespiquen_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=269207</id>
		<title>Talk:Vespiquen (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-31T16:46:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: /* Learnset */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
If this Pokémon cannot be found in the wild, and cannot be evolved to until level 21, why are there moves at so many lower levels? And which will it get when it evolves? Are some of them impossible to get? [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] 20:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you go to [[Pastoria City]], inside a house, a man will be there, asking for a [[heart scale]]. If you give him one, in return, he will have one of your pokemon relearn a move, one they would have learned through level up. that&#039;s how pokemon relearn moves. [[image:spr 3e 344.gif]] [[User:Flygon4evah|Flygon4evah]] 20:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And it&#039;s just in case they ever decide to put it in the wild at a lower level than it evolves. Like Kirlia at level 3-5 on Route 203. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 22:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So which ones does it get when it evolves? The last 4? The ones under &amp;quot;Start&amp;quot;? [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] 08:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Whatever it learns at the level you evolve it. For example, you evolve Combee at level 21, it&#039;ll learn {{m|Power Gem}} just after evolution. Anything under &amp;quot;start&amp;quot; is what it would have if you caught one, in the wild, at level 1. But since you can&#039;t essentially they&#039;re for the move relearner. Get your butt underground and look for some Heart Scales if you want those moves. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 17:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should be mentioned somewhere (most likely in the Trivia section) that it learns four moves that no other Pokemon can learn (Defend/Attack/Heal Order). I don&#039;t believe there&#039;s even a legendary Pokemon that learns four unique moves, which makes this even more unique, as Vespiqueen falls into the UU tier.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Constant: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;No sources so I`m renaming Berlitz `The Lady` {{unsigned|Random Dude123}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, well, if you open up a character map and check the characters like I did, you can see the characters of her name are &#039;Be&#039;, &#039;Ru&#039;, &#039;Ri&#039;, &#039;Tu&#039;, and &#039;Tu&#039;.  So, um, I think it&#039;s assumable there&#039;s SOME source on it.&lt;br /&gt;
:On another note, though, before changing it to something like &#039;The Lady&#039;, you should wait and see, because that&#039;s really a terrible and non-specific name for an article.&lt;br /&gt;
:And on another note, that&#039;s NOT how you move articles.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Were did you find this infomation?&lt;br /&gt;
-Random Dude132&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you ever considered that some of us actually go out to buy and read this stuff? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 07:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And besides, look at these three pages about the new main cast: [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_ho_01.html 1] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/na_zukann/zukann_na_01.html 2] [http://netkun.com/pockemon/zukann/ha_zukann/zukann_hi_01.html 3]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyone think her first name will be Opal? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since this would work for the third version, with Giritina as the cover pokemon. Not only does Opal actually work for a girl&#039;s name, but it also associated with Giritina. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn&#039;t matter what we think. If it&#039;s not canon, all there can be is baseless speculation. What if they do a third version with a green stone instead, like Jade? That&#039;s a girl&#039;s name, too. And it&#039;s {{p|Giratina}}. Don&#039;t worry, we&#039;ll know in due time. Plus... you oughta capitalize Pokémon and use the accented e. It&#039;s down in the character pallete, or you could hit Alt + 130 to generate it as you type. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, it&#039;s more correct to use the ASCII equivalent, alt+0233 (don&#039;t forget the zero) [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know it&#039;s just an assumption, but doesn&#039;t it APPEAR to be true? Giratina&#039;s association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don&#039;t see anything related to Jade around. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can&#039;t risk putting something that&#039;s not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that&#039;s an organic stubstance that&#039;s considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they&#039;re grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to {{p|Arseus}} in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there&#039;ll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it&#039;s unknown, there&#039;s no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there&#039;s very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo&#039;s doing a third version. They&#039;ve done it the past three generations, first time they didn&#039;t was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that&#039;s my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we&#039;d risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you&#039;ve done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can&#039;t help but admire you for all you have to say. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hey, I try. I&#039;d probably do the same thing if this was back in Gen III before Emerald, even though I always figured that it was a for sure thing that it would be. Can&#039;t say that I didn&#039;t doubt that Nintendo would somehow come up with a way-out-there idea for the third version, though, that wouldn&#039;t have Rayquaza on it, like a Topaz, to go with Yellow like RS do with RB. That turned into FRLG, though, which was a pretty big upset either way.&lt;br /&gt;
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::...fact is, there&#039;s nothing stopping Nintendo from making Amethyst Version with {{p|Crecelia}} on it, Amethyst was once up there with diamonds, rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the most precious of the gems. Heck, that&#039;d be a reference back to the GSC mascots much like RSE was back to RGB. We&#039;d have x49, x50, and one of the run-around-the-region guys, whereas last time, we had three totally related ones, just like in RGB.&lt;br /&gt;
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::So yeah, could be anything in the world, especially with 14 legendaries that could be on the cover. Whatever it is, though, it&#039;ll be a surprise. And psssssst. Don&#039;t forget to put four tildes (~) in a row to sign your comments. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It might possibly be Quartz, from the &#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039; in Berli&#039;&#039;tz&#039;&#039;. I haven&#039;t heard much or followed a lot of Generation IV news, so I probably wouldn&#039;t be the one to figure this out. [[User:Hangfromthefloor|Hangfromthefloor]] 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So, I&#039;m running some polls about this topic out of boredom, and you&#039;d be surprised to see just how many people are convinced that the next version will be Opal/Girasol. A lot of them are even jerks about other versions existing. And I mean, Amethyst is believable, but it&#039;s just that Giritina is like Rayquaza in a lot of ways, and also relates to the dragons. Now ivory? They wouldn&#039;t release a version about an event pokemon. And Crescelia? I&#039;m just not convinced, because that would deal with another event one. [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Who says they won&#039;t release one about an event Pokémon? Before Crystal, you&#039;d&#039;ve thought they&#039;d never release one with one of a legendary trio on the box without the other two on the other two versions, right? And Crecelia&#039;s not as much event as it is like Latios and Latias. Heck, Yellow was an odd choice for a third version of Red/Blue. Pikachu barely relates to Charizard and Blastoise. The only third version we&#039;ve seen so far whose mascot relates to the first two completely was Emerald. And... that&#039;s not counting Red/Green and Blue, since that got a fourth version, which became everyone else&#039;s third. Or something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It goes a little something like this, in my vision:&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | First/Second versions&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Third version&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Image:006.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:009.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Image:025.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Red|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Red&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Blue|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blue&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Yellow|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Yellow&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FF0000&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Fire (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot; | Final form, [[Water (type)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Water&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFF00&amp;quot; | Special [[starter|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;starter&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Image:250.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Image:249.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Image:245.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Gold|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Gold&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Silver|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Silver&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Crystal|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFD700&amp;quot; | [[Tin Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tin Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#E0E0E0&amp;quot; | [[Brass Tower|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Brass Tower&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#AAAAFF&amp;quot; | [[Legendary beasts|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Legendary beast&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Image:383.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:382.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Image:384.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Ruby|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ruby&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Sapphire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sapphire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Emerald|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Emerald&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C00000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Sunlight&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#0000C0&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Rain&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#00C000&amp;quot; | [[Weather trio|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Master of Weather&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Image:483.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Image:484.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;font-size:250%;&amp;quot; |?&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Diamond|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Diamond&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | [[Pokémon Pearl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Pearl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | [[Generation IV|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Version 3&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#C0C0FF&amp;quot; | Master of Time&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFC0C0&amp;quot; | Master of Space&lt;br /&gt;
! bgcolor=&amp;quot;#FFFFFF&amp;quot; | ??????????&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can guess the third may be [[Arceus]], Master of Universe; it&#039;s possible. Also, Pearl and Diamond are gemstones, Berlitz are only last names of people. [[User:ROMaster2|ROMaster2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version&#039;s starter (and, as I said, it&#039;s based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn&#039;t have 4 doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s how they were created. [[Green (Special)|Green]] as a character shouldn&#039;t even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there&#039;s a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz&#039;s given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an &amp;quot;o&amp;quot; at the beginning. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Note also that Ho-oh is related to the more gold-coloured Brass Tower, and Lugia to the Tin Tower.  Just because Ho-oh is called to the Tin Tower by the Rainbow Wing doesn&#039;t make it Ho-oh&#039;s domain.  Originally Lugia sat atop Tin, and Ho-oh atop Brass.  There were two real towers on either side of a lake in Kyoto as well - and the Gold-leaved tower burnt down, like the Brass Tower.  It also had a statue of the Houou bird atop it.  The reason the anime get confused about two Tin Towers is because Ho-oh originally atop Brass Tower, and then moved to the Tin Tower ONLY when it was summoned there by the Rainbow Wing held by the GSC player.  The Legendary Beasts were ultimately tied to the fate of the Twin Towers and the Silver and Gold Birds who sat upon those respective towers.  Suicune happens to be the beast that is the most connected with purification, like Celebi, who was also the focus of Crystal (at least in the Japanese version), so it gets the place on the box.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::That being said, I highly believe that Giratina will be the fourth version and Opal Berlitz be the full name of the new Special protagonist.  However, that a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon will be the star of the version seems quite strange.  But Giratina is most likely the version mascot.  Cresselia and Amethyst fit as well with Dialga and Palkia, and regardless, it&#039;s still a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon.  Arceus... I just can&#039;t see an event Pokémon as the mascot, because then the event would have to be built into the game, making the event in Diamond and Pearl lose meaning because you can just trade Arceus to your Diamond or Pearl versions after getting to that point in the third game.  Plus, if the movies are any indication, Girantina will be fighting a huge war of gods in the 11th Movie, against Dialga and Palkia (and perhaps Regigigas as well), which seems to indicate his connection with the other two Dimensional Dragon Gods of Sinnoh.  I just wonder how his story will be elaborated on.  But I digress.  As long as Giratina is the mascot of the third game, it will get a name like Opal or Girasol, and thus Berlitz will be Opal Berlitz.  I doubt the use of Girasol Version, because it sounds ridiculous, and no kid will know what a Girasol is unless they are like my kid brother who&#039;s intensely into rocks and minerals.  [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Phil]] 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dawn/Berlitz == &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else thing it should be mentioned &#039;&#039;somewhere&#039;&#039; that Berlitz has resemblance to Dawn from the anime?  ([[User:Constant|Constant]] 16:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC))&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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