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Talk:Pokéwalker

2010-03-11T23:55:06Z

Brock*PWN*: /* losing courses? */

==Name==
I don't think it is called the PokéWalker, I think it is just called the PokéWalk. Could we possibly get a better picture too? The current one is very blurry.
:No, it's PokéWalker, I saw the Pokémon Sunday episode. Where'd you get "PokéWalk" from? [[User:Adamant|Adamant]] 16:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
::Nevermind, it was the name that Serebii was calling it but now he has it right. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 15:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== PokéWalker and DS compatibility? ==

I'm wondering if the PokéWalker is truly compatible with the Nintendo DS, and DS Lite. Does anyone know if it will be DSi exclusive? On the wiki page it says this:
"The PokéWalker is only compatible with Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver using a Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, or a Nintendo DSi system. "
Is it true? I really hope so. --[[User:Will.kaufhold|form]] 06:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS, is compatable with ''all'' DS's so therefore so dose the PokéWalker. It will not be only DSi. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::'''すごい! ありがとう!''' --[[User:Will.kaufhold|'''form''']] 13:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
==Locations==
Should we make the pages of all the locations of the PokéWalker now. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 02:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Do you have info on them other than them being there in the pedometer and the Edge being unlocked by a Jirachi? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

==PokéRadar==
I was wondering why the addition of details on chaining was removed from the page? I have checked the history, and there was no reason. I have tried and tested the method for a long time now, and it has proven to be accurate. {{Unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}
:Um, this is PokéWalker, not Radar article. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

- But the 'PokeRadar' is the name of the part of the PokéWalker that is used to encounter wild Pokémon, which has it's own method of chaining. [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]] 19:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:: And RyuShoji was talking about the PokéRadar function on the Pokéwalker itself. Much like some of the games have PokéRadar, so does the PokéWalker. That's what Ryu was saying! Maybe you should check the edit logs first, Solar Dragon, before assuming what the removed piece of text was? [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Edity bit: I have just noticed that the PokéRadar section hasn't been removed, just moved to a different section of the page. See [[Pok%C3%A9Walker#Gameplay]] [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== EXP etc ==
No info on how much exp you get from walking? I've also heard things such as how a Pokémon can't grow more then one level, and that if they miss moves that they would learn from leveling up if they level up on the PokéWalker. If this stuff is true it should also be mentioned.
Also stuff like what kind of battery it uses, etc. And what are the 'advantaged types' mentioned in the articles of the areas? Are these Pokémon types that deal more then 1 damage with an attack versus a wild Pokémon? [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:Exp is 1 per step and only 1 level per walk as you said. If anyone wants to add this, the battery is just a watch battery (CR2032) and if it's important, the official website's PokeWalker FAQ estimates a 4 month battery lifetime. We don't really know what the advantaged types do yet. From my experience, they seem to have an affect on the rarity of itemfinder items at the very least. It appears that the step requirements will be (partially?) ignored sometimes as well if an advantaged type Pokemon is walking. They don't seem to affect battles or anything like that. Hopefully the Kanto guide goes into more details about what they do. I'm thinking we'll have the complete lists of all advantage types by around 10/29 when the Kanto guide comes out. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 23:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC))

:I've found that the pokemon achieves 1 level upon being returned to the Gameboy, no matter how many steps are taken. I'd kept a low-level pokemon in there for quite awhile and amassed tens of thousands of steps, yet only went up 1 level. Likewise, I've had some take far less steps than xp needed to level & still gained a level. I got my level 10 Magikarp up to level 19 very quickly using the PokeWalker, and the xp needed to level up was the same needed when first deposited. I only had to earn a couple hundred xp to evolve into a Gyarados rather than a few thousand. [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 20:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Memory ==

NGamer thought of this: does the Pokéwalker have flash memory? Or does your pokémon disappear if the batteries run out/are removed? I'd of thought this is pretty important. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 16:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Your Pokémon will not disappear and in some cases steps and watts won't either, you could loose somewhere around an hour of progress by taking the batteries out so they recommend sending everything back to the DS before changing the batteries. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC))

== Course Unlocks ==

When a course is unlocked, is it unlocked on the PokeWalker or on the DS cartridge? I had Yellow Forest unlocked on my copy of SoulSilver, but the card somehow became corrupt around the time the Wi-Fi promotion ended. I should be getting a replacement card in a few days but wonder if I'll still have access to Yellow Forest or if I should just keep my pokemon there until I get at least one Pikachu with Fly, just in case I can't go back.
:The unlocked courses are in with your save file, so unfortunately if your save file becomes corrupt (or you start a new game) and lose the old save file, all the unlocked courses get lost as well. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 22:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC))
:That stinks. :( Well, guess I'll just have to keep Togepi in Yellow Forest indefinitely & only transfer the loot. At least until I'm able to unlock it for my English versions. It would be cool if transferring things to the game from a PokeWalker which is currently set to Yellow Forest would unlock it on that card too. That would be a great way to spread the unlock.[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 19:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

==Required Steps Question==
On each of the course pages, there's a listed amount of steps you have to take before you can encounter a Pokemon/find an item. My question is: Are these Pokemon unlocked "Forever", or only once per Day, or only while that particular Pokemon is in the PokeWalker, or anything else?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Once per day, everyday at midnight the step count resets itself and you will need to rebuild your steps back up to meet that certain Pokémon or find that certain item. I have also heard reports that if you are using the PokéRadar and it hits midnight it will force you out from using it (that does not mean if you are already in a battle, that means if you are in the process of searching for a Pokémon) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC))

== W -> w? ==

Now that the {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} page is updated with English box art, should we go ahead and start changing the name of the PokéWalker from PokéWalker to Pokéwalker based on what is written on the boxes? I don't mind doing the changes, but I want to make sure that it's okay before I attempt it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:Maybe it's better to wait for official confirmation from Pokemon.com or Nintendo. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, that sounds good, that's what I was planning on in the first place, but when I saw that page got updated regardless I figured we might just as well go for it :p It can't be long until they eventually update anyways, so you're right I guess we should just wait. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:::I'd say we wait until HGSS itself comes out. Never know if the boxart could change, even slightly, before release. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay, they've finally confirmed it as 'w' in their press release here -> [http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=21788 Nintendo pressroom]. So should we start the change now? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 15:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Catch rates ==

What's the chance of a Poké Ball working in the PokéWalker? Does it use each one's individual in-game catch rate, or is it determined another way? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 11:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Man, I'm always full of questions... ==
Before me, anwser Missingno. master before me. But my question is, can the Pokéwalker connect with D/P? I really want to know. -[[User:?????|Question Marx]]
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! - [[User:?????|Question Marx]]

== I have something to add, but I have no idea where to put it... ==

I'm not really fluent in Japanese (I just can read it and I know a few words), so I'll just say what happens based on the picture. Sometimes, if you walk for a while the screen is blank, a happy face or music note appears above the landscape part and if you press the middle button, it says something and you get either 10 or 20 free watts. If it's a straight face, nothing will happen. Can someone add that, please? And if you can, try it and translate the text that it says. Thanks. [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think that would be a good thing to add, however I'm not fully sure how it all works. When I can dedicate more time to it, I'll look into it a little bit more so that we can add that, but the guides don't detail anything and I know that they are not limited to the certain amount of watts (they will find items too) ... if no one has added it, in about two weeks I can dedicate some time to filling a section like that in :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC))
::Oh, OK, thanks.
::Edit: I just found out that there's a heart too that gives you 50 watts [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Resetting PokéWalker ==

Is there a way to reset the PokéWalker...? (Or am I kinda screwed?) I had a Pokémon stored on there when my cartridge's save file became corrupt. I exchanged the cartridge for a new one, but now I can't seem to use the PokéWalker. I can't transfer the Pokémon to another save file, according to what I've read, and I can't transfer another pokemon onto there. Taking out the battery for awhile didn't erase anything.... So now what? Toss the PokéWalker?? :P --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 03:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:You have to press Down + X + L and then connect with your Pokewalker. -- on another note, should those sequence of buttons be mentioned somewhere in the article? The other is Up + Select + R which brings back a Pokemon if the Pokewalker gets lost. I think it might be helpful information to add, but I'm not sure :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 07:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC))
::By all means, find a place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== move ==

Should this be moved as Pokémon.com uses Pokéwalker? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the reply seen elsewhere was "wait until game launch; packaging can change." And that came from TTE. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, but that was for the packaging :/ They now have it announced on the official website as a lowercase w... and that was said back when the only thing we had to go on was an unconfirmed picture of the box art :p Shouldn't we consider doing it now that the official website says it? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 09:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... on top of that we should probably rename the instances of "Itemfinder" to "Dowsing Machine" as they have in their description on the website... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I think we should just put Dowsing Machine as alternative text. Also, [http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/vg_hgss_news_walker-2010-01-06/ this is the source I forgot to provide]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== item ==

http://pokewiki.de/images/d/d8/Course_Map_Icon.png this is a icon of a [[:de:Basisitems_(Gen._4)#Course_Map|Course Map]] for HGSS, its a basic item, but this wiki has no infos --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 08:46, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well.. not really. You don't have a course map in-game in your bag, that's just the sprite used on the wonder card. As far as I can tell it's just the Town Map sprite from DPPt, but there might be some small pixel differences I can't tell by just looking at it. Though I do agree that there should be some info on the course maps on the page (like calling them 'courses' instead of 'areas')... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Honestly, I think we should wait on changing it to 'course' :/ Even though that's what they're called in the Japanese versions there is a good chance that they're going to come out being 'routes' in the English versions >_<... Though I agree that area was not a fitting name for them either :/ More than the icon provided above, I would like to see the course display icons added into the articles somehow if we could make that work... The problem is just getting the pictures to do it and then where to place them... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I too support waiting on the translations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokewalker Power ==

How is the Pokewalker Powered?Is it powered on Some kind of battery, do you charge the Pokewalker, or what?
:Watch battery. Just wait until you get yours. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Earning Watts at a Certain Rate? ==

How many steps are required to Recieve a Single Watt? I Think it was 15-20 steps on the Pokemon Pikachu 2, but is that still the same on the Pokewalker?
[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 22:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:20 steps = 1 watt. I didn't realize that wasn't in the article, now to find a place for it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 03:30, 16 February 2010 (UTC))

== Temperature? ==

Does anyone know what's the highest and lowest temperature this device can survive in degrees Fahrenheit? I don't want to walk it around in the bitter winter here in the midwest...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's '''''fine'''''. I live in Chicago. I walk around with it all the time. It's not gonna FREEZE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just trying to be careful...I would LOVE to walk with Arceus, but...wait, does the Arceus get removed from my game card and into the device, or does it make some sort of copy like if you transferred your Chao in Sonic Adventure's games on GBA? Because if something bad happens to my walker, I may never see it again...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::And in case anyone cares, I don't have one yet, waiting for the English release. I can't read Japanese at all, so...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It gets ''transferred'' over to your 'walker. Not copied. In other words, yes, it gets removed from your game card. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::As far as losing your 'walker goes... [[#Resetting PokéWalker|see this]]. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 02:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, that helps...sorta...I'll try to take care of it when I get the game next month. [[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just thought I should mention this, it sort of does just make a copy of it. The best way to explain it is that it will take the Pokemon's information and save it within the game as if it's still there, but you won't be able to still see it within the game anymore. That is why in the event that your Pokewalker breaks, the Pokemon can be restored to the exact way you sent it without you losing any information on it. In other words, you can't "lose your Pokemon" by sending it to the Pokewalker unless you damage the game itself :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 05:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC))

== Two Seperate Questions... !/beeping? ==

So two things came into my head... on the page, it says that using the pokeradar can result in !, for Group C pokemon. but at the same time, ! is for Group C or B pokemon... shouldn't there only be one ! section, as both are the same? and question number two: does the pokewalker beep at all, and if it does can it be put to silent? many of my friends and I plan to bring these with us to school (free points for walking in the hallways =D) but dont want them taken away if they beep in class... thanks =D [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:There are three volume settings on the Pokewalker: loud, quiet, and silent. However, the 'walker does ''not'' beep for attention or anything like Tamagotchis and similar virtual pets would. They only beep when you press the buttons and play around with it - which you should not be going in class anyway. ;) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
::I loved watching my teachers desperately trying to find the source of the beeping back when I had Tamagotchis! :D [[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 02:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Keep the conversation Pedia related. Anything else about what you used to do with your Tama's goes to the forums. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::To answer your other question, the reason that the page lists !, !, !!, !!! is because that is the sequence that the Pokewalker dowsing machine uses. At first you will get one !, which will always be a group C Pokemon. If you get past that first !, then another ! will appear which can either be a group C or group B Pokemon. If you get past that, then you get a !! which will be either a group B or group A Pokemon. Finally, if you get past all of those you will get a !!! which will be a group A Pokemon only. Technically it should say something like ! (first) and ! (second), but I didn't want it to get too wordy... I hope that made sense, but there is a method to my madness ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:20, 22 February 2010 (UTC))
:::::Actually, both of those answers were really clear and helpful =D thanks a lot ^^ [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 22:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by getting Past a wild pokewalker pokemon? do you have to defeat it, catch it, or what?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 12:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:When you start the pokeradar you will always get a '!' above one of the patches of grass. If you click on that patch, then there is a chance either a Pokemon will or will not come out of it... if a Pokemon does not come out of it, then the '!' will disappear and a few seconds later another '!' will appear... this process continues until either you find a Pokemon or it runs away (you take too much time to click on the patch). Once you click on a '!!!' patch it will always have a Pokemon in it. And as said above, the sequence it will always goes in is: ! -> ! -> !! -> !!!. I hope that helped... it's really one of those things that's easiest to understand once you've done it a few times. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 12:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC))

== Watts ==

Shouldn't we make make an Article on Watts?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 16:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== nicknames? ==

Can the pokemon caught in the pokewalker be given nicknames?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 18:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:If you bring them to either of the two [[Name Rater|Name Raters]] then they can be. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 18:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC))

== losing courses? ==

I Heard that when the Pokewalker Battery dies out, you lose all your watts and steps, but not your Pokemon. What about the Pokewalker Courses themselves?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:They're stored in your save file so the only way to lose those is to restart the game ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC))
What i mean is when like you lose all your watts, and then the new, lesser amount of watts is transferred over to the games, does the new, lesser amount of watts take away the courses that had been unlocked by getting those watts that are now gone?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::I think what Yamino means is that the courses you unlock are saved on the DS game, rather then the pokewalker. So they wouldn't be lost, unless you lost the game. The watts are stored on the pokewalker, not the game. You keep a 'backup' of the Pokémon in the game that you can restore if the pokewalker battery dies, and the same is probably true with the courses (in a sense). watts just aren't saved in the game. But I mean I don't have it yet so that's just my guess. Also I'm guessing the watts required to unlock a course is the 'total watts ever obtained' not the current watts you have, so that would presumably be stored in the game? --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 13:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thank you, that explains a lot![[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 23:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== How many Watts to unlock routes ==

To unlock the Resort Area and the Quiet Cave, would one need 180,000 watts, or 100,000 watts? Before I was thinking 180,000 watts, but now that I know that it takes 20 steps to get a watt, I'm more inclined to believe 100,000. [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 05:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:...What? Watts are transferred over to the DS and stored there, and courses are unlocked as the watts accumulate. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pokéwalker

2010-03-11T13:01:45Z

Brock*PWN*: /* losing courses? */

==Name==
I don't think it is called the PokéWalker, I think it is just called the PokéWalk. Could we possibly get a better picture too? The current one is very blurry.
:No, it's PokéWalker, I saw the Pokémon Sunday episode. Where'd you get "PokéWalk" from? [[User:Adamant|Adamant]] 16:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
::Nevermind, it was the name that Serebii was calling it but now he has it right. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 15:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== PokéWalker and DS compatibility? ==

I'm wondering if the PokéWalker is truly compatible with the Nintendo DS, and DS Lite. Does anyone know if it will be DSi exclusive? On the wiki page it says this:
"The PokéWalker is only compatible with Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver using a Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, or a Nintendo DSi system. "
Is it true? I really hope so. --[[User:Will.kaufhold|form]] 06:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS, is compatable with ''all'' DS's so therefore so dose the PokéWalker. It will not be only DSi. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::'''すごい! ありがとう!''' --[[User:Will.kaufhold|'''form''']] 13:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
==Locations==
Should we make the pages of all the locations of the PokéWalker now. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 02:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Do you have info on them other than them being there in the pedometer and the Edge being unlocked by a Jirachi? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

==PokéRadar==
I was wondering why the addition of details on chaining was removed from the page? I have checked the history, and there was no reason. I have tried and tested the method for a long time now, and it has proven to be accurate. {{Unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}
:Um, this is PokéWalker, not Radar article. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

- But the 'PokeRadar' is the name of the part of the PokéWalker that is used to encounter wild Pokémon, which has it's own method of chaining. [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]] 19:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:: And RyuShoji was talking about the PokéRadar function on the Pokéwalker itself. Much like some of the games have PokéRadar, so does the PokéWalker. That's what Ryu was saying! Maybe you should check the edit logs first, Solar Dragon, before assuming what the removed piece of text was? [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Edity bit: I have just noticed that the PokéRadar section hasn't been removed, just moved to a different section of the page. See [[Pok%C3%A9Walker#Gameplay]] [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== EXP etc ==
No info on how much exp you get from walking? I've also heard things such as how a Pokémon can't grow more then one level, and that if they miss moves that they would learn from leveling up if they level up on the PokéWalker. If this stuff is true it should also be mentioned.
Also stuff like what kind of battery it uses, etc. And what are the 'advantaged types' mentioned in the articles of the areas? Are these Pokémon types that deal more then 1 damage with an attack versus a wild Pokémon? [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:Exp is 1 per step and only 1 level per walk as you said. If anyone wants to add this, the battery is just a watch battery (CR2032) and if it's important, the official website's PokeWalker FAQ estimates a 4 month battery lifetime. We don't really know what the advantaged types do yet. From my experience, they seem to have an affect on the rarity of itemfinder items at the very least. It appears that the step requirements will be (partially?) ignored sometimes as well if an advantaged type Pokemon is walking. They don't seem to affect battles or anything like that. Hopefully the Kanto guide goes into more details about what they do. I'm thinking we'll have the complete lists of all advantage types by around 10/29 when the Kanto guide comes out. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 23:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC))

:I've found that the pokemon achieves 1 level upon being returned to the Gameboy, no matter how many steps are taken. I'd kept a low-level pokemon in there for quite awhile and amassed tens of thousands of steps, yet only went up 1 level. Likewise, I've had some take far less steps than xp needed to level & still gained a level. I got my level 10 Magikarp up to level 19 very quickly using the PokeWalker, and the xp needed to level up was the same needed when first deposited. I only had to earn a couple hundred xp to evolve into a Gyarados rather than a few thousand. [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 20:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Memory ==

NGamer thought of this: does the Pokéwalker have flash memory? Or does your pokémon disappear if the batteries run out/are removed? I'd of thought this is pretty important. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 16:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Your Pokémon will not disappear and in some cases steps and watts won't either, you could loose somewhere around an hour of progress by taking the batteries out so they recommend sending everything back to the DS before changing the batteries. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC))

== Course Unlocks ==

When a course is unlocked, is it unlocked on the PokeWalker or on the DS cartridge? I had Yellow Forest unlocked on my copy of SoulSilver, but the card somehow became corrupt around the time the Wi-Fi promotion ended. I should be getting a replacement card in a few days but wonder if I'll still have access to Yellow Forest or if I should just keep my pokemon there until I get at least one Pikachu with Fly, just in case I can't go back.
:The unlocked courses are in with your save file, so unfortunately if your save file becomes corrupt (or you start a new game) and lose the old save file, all the unlocked courses get lost as well. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 22:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC))
:That stinks. :( Well, guess I'll just have to keep Togepi in Yellow Forest indefinitely & only transfer the loot. At least until I'm able to unlock it for my English versions. It would be cool if transferring things to the game from a PokeWalker which is currently set to Yellow Forest would unlock it on that card too. That would be a great way to spread the unlock.[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 19:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

==Required Steps Question==
On each of the course pages, there's a listed amount of steps you have to take before you can encounter a Pokemon/find an item. My question is: Are these Pokemon unlocked "Forever", or only once per Day, or only while that particular Pokemon is in the PokeWalker, or anything else?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Once per day, everyday at midnight the step count resets itself and you will need to rebuild your steps back up to meet that certain Pokémon or find that certain item. I have also heard reports that if you are using the PokéRadar and it hits midnight it will force you out from using it (that does not mean if you are already in a battle, that means if you are in the process of searching for a Pokémon) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC))

== W -> w? ==

Now that the {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} page is updated with English box art, should we go ahead and start changing the name of the PokéWalker from PokéWalker to Pokéwalker based on what is written on the boxes? I don't mind doing the changes, but I want to make sure that it's okay before I attempt it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:Maybe it's better to wait for official confirmation from Pokemon.com or Nintendo. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, that sounds good, that's what I was planning on in the first place, but when I saw that page got updated regardless I figured we might just as well go for it :p It can't be long until they eventually update anyways, so you're right I guess we should just wait. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:::I'd say we wait until HGSS itself comes out. Never know if the boxart could change, even slightly, before release. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay, they've finally confirmed it as 'w' in their press release here -> [http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=21788 Nintendo pressroom]. So should we start the change now? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 15:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Catch rates ==

What's the chance of a Poké Ball working in the PokéWalker? Does it use each one's individual in-game catch rate, or is it determined another way? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 11:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Man, I'm always full of questions... ==
Before me, anwser Missingno. master before me. But my question is, can the Pokéwalker connect with D/P? I really want to know. -[[User:?????|Question Marx]]
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! - [[User:?????|Question Marx]]

== I have something to add, but I have no idea where to put it... ==

I'm not really fluent in Japanese (I just can read it and I know a few words), so I'll just say what happens based on the picture. Sometimes, if you walk for a while the screen is blank, a happy face or music note appears above the landscape part and if you press the middle button, it says something and you get either 10 or 20 free watts. If it's a straight face, nothing will happen. Can someone add that, please? And if you can, try it and translate the text that it says. Thanks. [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think that would be a good thing to add, however I'm not fully sure how it all works. When I can dedicate more time to it, I'll look into it a little bit more so that we can add that, but the guides don't detail anything and I know that they are not limited to the certain amount of watts (they will find items too) ... if no one has added it, in about two weeks I can dedicate some time to filling a section like that in :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC))
::Oh, OK, thanks.
::Edit: I just found out that there's a heart too that gives you 50 watts [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Resetting PokéWalker ==

Is there a way to reset the PokéWalker...? (Or am I kinda screwed?) I had a Pokémon stored on there when my cartridge's save file became corrupt. I exchanged the cartridge for a new one, but now I can't seem to use the PokéWalker. I can't transfer the Pokémon to another save file, according to what I've read, and I can't transfer another pokemon onto there. Taking out the battery for awhile didn't erase anything.... So now what? Toss the PokéWalker?? :P --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 03:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:You have to press Down + X + L and then connect with your Pokewalker. -- on another note, should those sequence of buttons be mentioned somewhere in the article? The other is Up + Select + R which brings back a Pokemon if the Pokewalker gets lost. I think it might be helpful information to add, but I'm not sure :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 07:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC))
::By all means, find a place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== move ==

Should this be moved as Pokémon.com uses Pokéwalker? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the reply seen elsewhere was "wait until game launch; packaging can change." And that came from TTE. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, but that was for the packaging :/ They now have it announced on the official website as a lowercase w... and that was said back when the only thing we had to go on was an unconfirmed picture of the box art :p Shouldn't we consider doing it now that the official website says it? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 09:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... on top of that we should probably rename the instances of "Itemfinder" to "Dowsing Machine" as they have in their description on the website... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I think we should just put Dowsing Machine as alternative text. Also, [http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/vg_hgss_news_walker-2010-01-06/ this is the source I forgot to provide]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== item ==

http://pokewiki.de/images/d/d8/Course_Map_Icon.png this is a icon of a [[:de:Basisitems_(Gen._4)#Course_Map|Course Map]] for HGSS, its a basic item, but this wiki has no infos --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 08:46, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well.. not really. You don't have a course map in-game in your bag, that's just the sprite used on the wonder card. As far as I can tell it's just the Town Map sprite from DPPt, but there might be some small pixel differences I can't tell by just looking at it. Though I do agree that there should be some info on the course maps on the page (like calling them 'courses' instead of 'areas')... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Honestly, I think we should wait on changing it to 'course' :/ Even though that's what they're called in the Japanese versions there is a good chance that they're going to come out being 'routes' in the English versions >_<... Though I agree that area was not a fitting name for them either :/ More than the icon provided above, I would like to see the course display icons added into the articles somehow if we could make that work... The problem is just getting the pictures to do it and then where to place them... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I too support waiting on the translations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokewalker Power ==

How is the Pokewalker Powered?Is it powered on Some kind of battery, do you charge the Pokewalker, or what?
:Watch battery. Just wait until you get yours. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Earning Watts at a Certain Rate? ==

How many steps are required to Recieve a Single Watt? I Think it was 15-20 steps on the Pokemon Pikachu 2, but is that still the same on the Pokewalker?
[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 22:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:20 steps = 1 watt. I didn't realize that wasn't in the article, now to find a place for it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 03:30, 16 February 2010 (UTC))

== Temperature? ==

Does anyone know what's the highest and lowest temperature this device can survive in degrees Fahrenheit? I don't want to walk it around in the bitter winter here in the midwest...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's '''''fine'''''. I live in Chicago. I walk around with it all the time. It's not gonna FREEZE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just trying to be careful...I would LOVE to walk with Arceus, but...wait, does the Arceus get removed from my game card and into the device, or does it make some sort of copy like if you transferred your Chao in Sonic Adventure's games on GBA? Because if something bad happens to my walker, I may never see it again...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::And in case anyone cares, I don't have one yet, waiting for the English release. I can't read Japanese at all, so...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It gets ''transferred'' over to your 'walker. Not copied. In other words, yes, it gets removed from your game card. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::As far as losing your 'walker goes... [[#Resetting PokéWalker|see this]]. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 02:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, that helps...sorta...I'll try to take care of it when I get the game next month. [[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just thought I should mention this, it sort of does just make a copy of it. The best way to explain it is that it will take the Pokemon's information and save it within the game as if it's still there, but you won't be able to still see it within the game anymore. That is why in the event that your Pokewalker breaks, the Pokemon can be restored to the exact way you sent it without you losing any information on it. In other words, you can't "lose your Pokemon" by sending it to the Pokewalker unless you damage the game itself :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 05:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC))

== Two Seperate Questions... !/beeping? ==

So two things came into my head... on the page, it says that using the pokeradar can result in !, for Group C pokemon. but at the same time, ! is for Group C or B pokemon... shouldn't there only be one ! section, as both are the same? and question number two: does the pokewalker beep at all, and if it does can it be put to silent? many of my friends and I plan to bring these with us to school (free points for walking in the hallways =D) but dont want them taken away if they beep in class... thanks =D [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:There are three volume settings on the Pokewalker: loud, quiet, and silent. However, the 'walker does ''not'' beep for attention or anything like Tamagotchis and similar virtual pets would. They only beep when you press the buttons and play around with it - which you should not be going in class anyway. ;) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
::I loved watching my teachers desperately trying to find the source of the beeping back when I had Tamagotchis! :D [[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 02:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Keep the conversation Pedia related. Anything else about what you used to do with your Tama's goes to the forums. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::To answer your other question, the reason that the page lists !, !, !!, !!! is because that is the sequence that the Pokewalker dowsing machine uses. At first you will get one !, which will always be a group C Pokemon. If you get past that first !, then another ! will appear which can either be a group C or group B Pokemon. If you get past that, then you get a !! which will be either a group B or group A Pokemon. Finally, if you get past all of those you will get a !!! which will be a group A Pokemon only. Technically it should say something like ! (first) and ! (second), but I didn't want it to get too wordy... I hope that made sense, but there is a method to my madness ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:20, 22 February 2010 (UTC))
:::::Actually, both of those answers were really clear and helpful =D thanks a lot ^^ [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 22:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by getting Past a wild pokewalker pokemon? do you have to defeat it, catch it, or what?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 12:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:When you start the pokeradar you will always get a '!' above one of the patches of grass. If you click on that patch, then there is a chance either a Pokemon will or will not come out of it... if a Pokemon does not come out of it, then the '!' will disappear and a few seconds later another '!' will appear... this process continues until either you find a Pokemon or it runs away (you take too much time to click on the patch). Once you click on a '!!!' patch it will always have a Pokemon in it. And as said above, the sequence it will always goes in is: ! -> ! -> !! -> !!!. I hope that helped... it's really one of those things that's easiest to understand once you've done it a few times. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 12:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC))

== Watts ==

Shouldn't we make make an Article on Watts?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 16:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== nicknames? ==

Can the pokemon caught in the pokewalker be given nicknames?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 18:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:If you bring them to either of the two [[Name Rater|Name Raters]] then they can be. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 18:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC))

== losing courses? ==

I Heard that when the Pokewalker Battery dies out, you lose all your watts and steps, but not your Pokemon. What about the Pokewalker Courses themselves?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:They're stored in your save file so the only way to lose those is to restart the game ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC))
What i mean is when like you lose all your watts, and then the new, lesser amount of watts is transferred over to the games, does the new, lesser amount of watts take away the courses that had been unlocked by getting those watts that are now gone?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== How many Watts to unlock routes ==

To unlock the Resort Area and the Quiet Cave, would one need 180,000 watts, or 100,000 watts? Before I was thinking 180,000 watts, but now that I know that it takes 20 steps to get a watt, I'm more inclined to believe 100,000. [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 05:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:...What? Watts are transferred over to the DS and stored there, and courses are unlocked as the watts accumulate. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2010-03-10T00:49:16Z

Brock*PWN*: /* Movie 12 Arceus */ new section

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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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In my Pokémon Gold game, My Pokémon with PokéRus doesn't infect others stored in the PC, and doesn't even become immune unless it's in my party. For me there's only a chance that others become infected when I heal at the Pokémon Center, not automatic as the article implies. My Pokémon take about two days to heal. But before I edit the page, I wanted to ask if it is possible that PokéRus can act different for different trainers? -- [[user:Slim|Slim]]

That's how PokeRus should act. It spreads within the party, and a pogey in the PC will not lose PokeRus status. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 14:21, 6 October 2005 (CDT)

== Pokemon Rocks America ==

I got a Ho-Oh and Lugia from Pokemon Rocks America 2005, and a Metang, but none of them have PokeRus, as it states in the article. [[User:Lukario|Lukario]] 18:19, 28 November 2005 (CST)

== Glitch? ==

Wait, is PokéRus a glitch? -- [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] 19:34, 29 July 2007 {EST}

::No. PokéRus is not a glitch. [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 00:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Telling if a wild pokemon has pokerus ==

i heard on a website that to get pokerus that you had to catch a pokemon with it, and to tell if it had pokerus ( while it's still in the wild) that it would have a status condition when it first appears. is this true?
:No. You can't tell if a wild Pokémon has PokéRus, however, you can catch the disease from it without catching the Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 08:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::thanks [[User:Amben27|amben]] 04:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

== Day care? ==

Does the virus wear off in the day care center? I just got a Tangela, and I want to breed it but I want the virus to spread to my team too. >_>; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think it will, but you could just spread it around before throwing it in the daycare by leaving it fifth in the party and battling random things. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh shi-- good thing I got a good natured Tangela within the fifth egg. *runs off to Day care grabbing Tangela and sticks in party* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Hm, my Pokérus Ditto breeder is still infecting, after five days in the daycare. Has anyone's virus wore off? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

==Egg==
Is it possible to get a pokerus from a egg. My friend told me that he had. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 23:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:My sister got PokéRus from an egg.. the virus spread to the egg, though, then the egg spread it around the party. When it hatched, however, it was immune. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I mean the egg hatched from the daycare, and it had pokerus. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 00:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Eggs can get it, you likely got it on the egg soon after getting the egg from the daycare, and didn't check it until after it got the rus. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Eggs can get Pokerus too: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/70/Pokerus_egg.jpg but when it hatched, the burmy inside still had it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== No middle caps ==

This is an excerpt from Pokémon Diamond at the Pokémon Center: 
''(...)'' 
''Little is known about the Pokérus except that they are microscopic life-forms that attach to Pokémon.'' 
''While infected, Pokémon are said to grow exceptionally well.'' 
It's only two ocurrences of the word. Where did it appear with middle caps originally anyway? In some summary of the [[H008|Oaknapped episode]]? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's how everything with Poké is spelled. It's a Poké Ball, it's PokéRus. Etc. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 06:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::Well, this one resulted being an exception :). I'm just trying to help by using spelling from the game. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::You know? I believe it's because "-rus" is a suffix and not a word. You can bet /pokevirus/ would be spelt "PokéVirus" for sure, hehe. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 07:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== Conditions for immunization? ==

I have the impression that the immunization of my infected party happened too early... I didn't walk too much, and closed my DS without turning it off by about 30 minutes. In Generation IV, does it depend on certain number of steps, or on real time? Remember that the DS does have a clock.
Sadly I saved twice, and never noticed that my party was already immune before the second save (I managed to store only 1 infected Pokémon). --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:My experience shows a Pokémon only immunizes if it is in your party at midnight. If you leave your Pokémon in your party, instead of storing it at a box or at the daycare, turn off the game and turn it on again after midnight passes, the Pokémon will be immunized. It will also immunize if the game is on, anyway.-- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== In [[Pokémon Firered|FireRed]] ==

I have a [[Tauros (Pokémon)|Tauros]] in Firered, but I can't make it infect my other pokemon in the party. How is this? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 00:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Have they already had it?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]

::nopes. I know that pokemon get a black dot when they already had it 'cause my brother has PokéRus too, so I asked him to infect my pokemon too. I traded him my tauros, so he infected it and traded it back, but I can't make my pokemon get it too. =( [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 04:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Strange. My cousin traded me a Dialga with PokéRus, it infected my party and I traded it back. The Rus spread all around. I wonder...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:10 11 Mar 2008}}}'''

Pokémon can't be infected in FRLG since there's no clock. It never spreads, but it never goes away either. The games are like a giant PC. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 09:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ah...I see. -thinks about it- So an infected Pokémon traded to Red/Blue/Green/Yellow and traded back will still have the Rus? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:16 11 Mar 2008}}}'''
::From Gen II to Gen I, I'm not too sure. But from RSE to FRLG, it'll be made permanent for however long it's in FRLG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 09:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::In Gen II pokerus acts as any held item when traded to Gen I: it's still there, but you can't see it. When you trade back from Gen I to Gen II, the pokemon will still have its held item, shiny status and pokerus. =) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== quick way ==

what is the quickest way to spread it?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Dakclaw
Dakclaw
:Battle. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 09:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Obtained the Pokérus today ==

Sup guys, I obtained the Pokérus today while (I believe) wandering around the Fuego Ironworks. I was told I had them when I healed my party at a pokecenter by Nurse Joy. I currently have 4 infected right now, but I don't want to trade any of them. If anyone can tell me how to infect lots of other pokemon very fast, I'll be more than happy to trade you an infected guy (hopefully for something to make it worthwhile). I've never done wifi trading before, so I will have to learn that as well...Anyone got any advice?--[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 06:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Battle. Battle, get all six infected, switch out all but one, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

::I obtained a {{p|Bidoof}} through the GTS with the Pokérus (its nickname is even Pokerus). I haven't found a use for it though, so it's just hanging out at my Ranch. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, hmmm, is there a place on Bulbapedia to organize trades? I've got about 20 infected so far. I don't know if pokemon stored in the computer become uninfected after 2 days though. --[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 00:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that a boxed Pokémon will infect others. Also, most users will say to use the forums to organize trades. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 00:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

hey, Im using my wii to type this (computer's broken) so I cant really edit much on this question.
I just read from the article that a pokemon will continue to gain double EVs even after being immunized. Is this true, because I havent heard about this from any other website?
:Yeah, it's true ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 20:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hey!! ==

Pokémon Eggs can be infected in RSE too. Not only in DP! '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:Absolutely right. should this be be stated in the article?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 04:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== After the infection ==

"Though the virus is gone, its positive effects will remain, most specifically the ability for that Pokémon to gain double EVs." I've heard myself that it gains 2x EV's when it has the PokéRus sign and then 1.5x EV's when it wears off. Which one is correct? UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 21:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:its always 2x EVs, the only difference when the pokemon is cured is that it cant pass the infection on. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

== More Specific Info about spreading ==

Do we have more info on spreading? Such as odds, formulas, methods for quick spreading... we already know it will spread after battle, but the results vary much. Once I had three eggs infected with one battle, and another time it took me 5 battles to infect one pokémon of five "clean". Don't we have more info? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Immunization and Species ==

It seems we have a disagreement on how immunization happens. From my own experience, no Pokémon lasts more than one midnight with the Pokérus active(in Pokémon Diamond). Please provide testimonials to extend the concept. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 16:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

:I've gotten strains in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]] last more than one midnight in the party. In fact, I've NEVER had a Pokérus in Generation II that vanished after just one midnight. The strain I got in [[Generation III]] lasted only one midnight, regardless of whether it was cured in Generation III or Generation IV. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

:: Would you mind specifying which ones? I've infected a Treecko in one night at 11PM, and at midnight it was immune. Not to mention once I was trading with a person, was waiting for him to get online with an infected Squirtle(hatched and infected the same night) and it got immune. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 16:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Drugs... ==

So if a Pokémon has the Pokérus, does it affect the amount of EVs it gains when it takes drugs? For example, a Carbos usually gives 10 Speed EVs. Will this increase to 20 with the addition of Pokérus, or are the drugs not affected by it?--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 11:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
: No, the only EVs affected are the ones given by battling. Vitamins will still give 10EVs. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 18:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== "small life forms" ==
Technically it is incorrect to say that because a virus is not a life form, although it does infect living things. Just thought I'd throw that out =p. [[User:DesiAdame|DesiAdame]] 05:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:Try emailing Nintendo. I'm sure they'll be happy to hear you out. We, unfortunately, can't do anything about that. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
::I assume Pokérus is a portmanteau of Pokémon and Virus. Viruses isn't a life form. They're agents that survive off other living things.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I suppose you could be pedantic if you really wanted, but you never know, viruses in the Pokémon world may be alive... it wouldn't be the most farfetch'd thing in that game (ucwutididthar?)--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]]
:::As I recall, the Pokémon Center's nurse tells about it. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 06:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Someone go get a screenshot(s) of it. The article could use it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the nurse does talk to you about it, but only the first time you present it to her.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

== Didn't Work ==

My brother had pokerus long ago in his party pokemon and he managed to clone his favorite pokemon, a level 100 Luxray and trade it from his Pearl to my Platinum as a gift, so I could get through the Victory Road as fast as I could because I was desperate to migrate from my Emerald, but when I got to the elite 4 and cured my pokemon in that pokemon center nurse joy told me about pokerus, that my pokemon had it now, but I though she was talking about the luxray that had had it, so I tried it again with other pokemon he gave me with pokerus and she didn't tell me a thing about it, so I thought she wasn't counfused, and that my other party pokemon had it, but they never had the Status "pokerus" and do not have the smiley face, I know how it looks, can see it in other pokemon but the pokemon of mine that should have it don't have it, how's that possible? didn't do anything!! It just wore away and left everthing the same!! They don't have it! like if they had never, even though nurse Joy told me they did. That happened long ago, so it's really gone. Do you understand what I say? LOL. I had read this article before that happened to me and it said that it goes away, and PC storage, etc, I did it all but didn't work. MY POKEMON DON'T HAVE IT EVEN AFTER NURSE JOY TOLD MY THEY DID!! [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think that it may just not have spread from your Luxray. Every time you battle, I think that there's a chance of the other Pokémon in your party getting infected (correct me if I'm wrong here, I may be wrong on the mechanics). But the principle is, I think that the virus just didn't spread to the rest of your Pokémon. Not only that, but the nurse at the Pokémon Center will only tell you about the existence of Pokérus the first time you heal a Pokémon with it, she won't mention it again after that. [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 08:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

::I don't think that only Luxray caught it because in the first place LOL I had it already before and it can't get infected again wich means other of my party pokemon had it... but somehow it cured it and and the effects didn't stay...oh well anyway thanks for helping :D, it doen't matter anymore to me because I had to restart my game so those pokemon are lost, I only brought it up because I though the article could be a lil wrong and could add somewhere that pokerus can be lost :(. Thank you [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Question ==

Is it possible to determine ''why'' a pokemon receives this disease?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 16:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Not unless you catch the one random wild Pokémon you encounter with it from the wild. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== Let us suppose ==

we have a milotic, which is holding a power lens, and has pokerus. this milotic of ours beats a gastly, which gives 1 special attack ev. how many special attack EVs will our milotic get? [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
: Gastly gives 1EV in SAtk, then Power Lens gives an extra 4EVs. Pokérus will then double the total to 10EVs. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 18:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Figured out how Pokérus transfers! ==

So this is for Generation IV only as I haven't tested it with other gens.
YES you can place an infected pokemon in the box and it WILL keep the virus.
NO the virus will not transfer to other pokemon in the box (and if it does it takes well over two weeks of gameplay)
YES the infected pokemon will spread the virus to others in your party, AFTER BATTLES. So in order to get the Pokérus spread you have to have an infected pokemon in your party. --[[User:Bageese|Bageese]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokerus on a Shiny Pokemon? ==

If the chance of Finding a Shiny pokemon is somewher around 1/8000 or something, and the chance of finding a Wild pokemon with Pokerus is around 3/60000, then what is the chance of Finding a Shiny Pokemon with Pokerus in the wild?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 14:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Core series/Archive 1

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==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -[[User:The REAL Dialga|The REAL Dialga]] 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::This article is basically a list of patterns through the game series and that's all it ever can be. As I said below, actual Gen V information would go on the Gen V pages. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnemite ==
If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==About Arceus==

"The legendary pokemon are more powerful in new generations. With Arceus as the god Pokemon of the universe, it would be hard to make a stronger one."
I HATE this argument. Just because it is credited with creating everything does NOT make it omnipotent, or unsurpassable in any other way. Technically, it's only been known to do one thing, and that's creating other pokemon (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) which in turn did all the work of creating the universe. And it's arguable that legendary pokemon are mor powerful in each generation (until Arceus, I don't think even the base stats of them were ever improved upon much-- are Groudon and Kyogre that much more powerful than Ho-oh and Lugia?). I'd say their powers and range of influence are just made "cooler", and I doubt Game Freak would be at a loss for that-- Many other fundamental aspects of the universe still have no legendary pokemon to call their own, like life and death. I'm not saying that this argument should be deleted from this page; after all, this is about the fandom, and many fans have the opinion "ARceuS Is gOD!!!1! ZOmG GameFreaKs caNT FoLlow Taht up!!!1!!!!!111!"
I just think it should be rephrased, maybe as "Some people argue that because Arceus created the Pokemon world, Gamefreak would have difficulty making a more awesome pokemon next generation in order to maintain interest in the franchise." Something like that. Any thoughts? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, who said, in the current generation, there has to be stronger pokémon then the last.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::The whole article is fanspeculation. It is a valid argument, and I've rephrased the whole entire section to make it somewhat more encyclopedic. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that's much better. Even I couldn't have phrased it that well! Thanks! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont think that arceus is directly referred to as a god but his ability to create the three dietic dragons and the three lake gaurdians make his ability '''DIVINE'''(like all other legendaries), so there's no point of dubbing him as a god. And that would be offensive to religions, so nintendo would've thought of that point before approving of arceus'release to the fourth generation.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:It is not stated as such any more. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

::I believe somewhere in Gen IV they mention people worshipping Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus as gods. It might be Cynthia's grannie I'm thinking of, but she says that Dialga and Palkia were "revered as dieties" or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

that is exactly what i'm saying, 'revered as dieties' but not actual gods, but actually the sinnoh myth is based on shinto which might possibly have been confusing for the pokémon community.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:But diety refers to gods, or somthing/someone on the level of a god. If you can find a meaning that's different, then please do. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'm no longer arguing that it isn't a "god" (as the word itself is quite vague. All I was saying is that the assumption that Game Freak won't be able to come up with something more powerful, as well as the assumption that they have to with each new generation, are both misconceptions. And again, as this is about the fandom's opinion, and many are of the belief that Nintendo has to do both of these things to make a new generation (and that they couldn't if they wanted to), I think the amended wording suits it fine. {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}
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== page is messed up ==

I suggest rearranging the page into several sections or put into a table--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== um..... ==

there could be a future Generation starting off at Route 49 getting rid of that LONG gap between [[Route 48]] and [[Route 101]]--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 17:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

if the gap between routes complete a full number sequence, that means that between johto and hoenn there are most probably two generations, between hoenn and sinnoh there are about four generations, of course if I take this ''if each region has about 27 playable routes'', of course its an assumption but good point to be mentioned if the numbering counts. yet there's the problem of the pokémon world's route numbering system which could exist as some kind of government policy, if it exists.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not to mention that, if a new generation's [[country]] includes a route number starting right after the last route number of another country, that would heavily imply that said other country is accessible in the game. For example, if [[Generation V]]'s country were to begin at Route 49, that would imply that at least [[Johto]] is accessible in the main games of that generation. [[Hoenn]] began at 101, [[Sinnoh]] began at 201, and the [[Sevii Islands]] did not number their routes, all to avoid these implications.

:(For the record, yes, there is a precedent for [[Route 47]] going west from {{ci|Cianwood}} when [[Route 46]] is on the eastern side of the country. The precedent is [[Kanto]]'s [[Route 24]], north of {{ci|Cerulean}} while [[Route 23]] is on the west side of the country.) {{unsigned|Shiningpikablu252}}

:um... what's a precedent?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::and I still say that they can fix that long @$$ gap between Johto and Hoenn's region number's without making Johto accessible. The excuse? A land Bridge between Johto and Hypothetical Generation V region that vanished over time.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
There could also be no more Pokémon games. The moral of the story is we base our information on the trends of recent games, not what a handful of fans think is possible. Because anything's possible. Even an elephant bird (ten points for getting the reference). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

true. But there are some people (like me) that are insane about Pokémon. If the series is stopped we will band togéther to attack nintendo. There's still SO much Nintendo can put into Pokémon. And besides it makes them money. I don't think they'll end it yet.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

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== Rewrite ==

I largely agree with trom's reasoning that we needed to rewrite this page, but am concerned that we are losing a lot of information by doing this transition so suddenly. I certainly feel that any of the "evidence" sections, we retain on other pages, and that it's easy to find on those pages. As for the format, I'd advocate a few more bulleted lists, as I think it is easier to pick out on the page than a whole load of prose to wade through. I know you had good intentions though trom :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 19:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:If you feel I removed anything of importance, then feel free to put it back in. I did think that some items listed were overtrivialised, so I took them out. As for the format, the sections with paragraphs is generally preferred for overall article quality. Thanks for your feedback. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay so I agree that most articles should have sections and paragraphs, but I contest that this is a "normal" article. It reads more like a list, which has been converted to a formatted article (which incidentally is basically what has happened). Perhaps instead, some of this content should be migrated to a "List of patterns common to all Pokémon games" and then merely referenced from this article? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 18:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This page was better before the rewrite. Put the evidence back in. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 01:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I disagree; it looks much cleaner and more professional now, while the old version was fairly jumbled. If you want to add old information, at least put it in a more organized manner than before. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 05:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think the article looks better without all the bullet points. It's a lot easier to read. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Redundant ==

Disclaimer: This article is purely fan speculation. There is NO evidence for or against it.
Section:evidence for gen V.
Section:evidence against gen V.

lol
--[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 14:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:It said '''solid''' evidence. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Could be a new handheld==

I did not know where else to put this so... I was just reading NGamer(uk 46) and it has an artical on page 6 about what Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said in an interview with japanese newspaper Ashi Shimbun. They report that when asked about a future generation of handhelds he apparently said that that the new consol would have "highly detailed graphics, and it will be necessary to have a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing". With earlier reports of Nvidia working on a chipset for Nintendo, and Game Freak advertising a while back for a 3D artist (or something), I believe that the 5th gen of Pokémon is close and we may even see sneek previews of the next handheld by the end of the year, sounds to me as if they are working on it by now (could even be in testing as NGamer have a ''mock'' picture of what they believe is in the works). {{unsigned|011384mm}}
:It's already announced. You might not know because it was revealed 1 or 2 days ago. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== A Little Spelling Error ==

Since this page is protected, there's a really small spelling error. - "Just as Red and Blue were made in Generation III, and Gold and Sliver in Generation IV, it is most likely that Ruby and Sapphire will be remade in Generation V." It should be Silver not Sliver. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed, thanks for noticing. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 23:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::Another minor error that was over looked in what Ugoz pointed out, made should be changed to remade.[[User:NnN Neo|NnN Neo]] 03:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== Add info about Gen V ==

Could someone delete the references of generation V. Or Atleast reword them. also, plz mention Gne. V in the begining paragraph. thankyou[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Also, can add a link to Gen 5 at the bottom of the page.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::In progress. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Also a reminder: in "Speculation against future generations", if it even remains relevant in the short term at all, everything involving the unlikelihood of the fifth gen in particular (or unlikelihood that it will be on the DS) should be removed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 19:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::...Hello? The page still talks about the possibility of an already-confirmed fifth gen not happening, even saying no new Pokemon have been revealed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 02:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two Sets of Remakes in Generation V and Beyond? ==

I Think that if they ARE Going to remake Ruby and Sapphire in Gen. V, then they would have to do remakes of FR/LG, because FR/LG have the exact same quality as Ruby/Sapphire. And then, they would probably have to remake DP in Generation VI, if there ever will be a Generation VI.Should there be a Generation VI
in 2013 or whenever (2013 is my best guess, or 2014), then there would have to be more remakes of HGSs.Then, in an seemingly unlikely Generation VII, would come reremakes of FRLG and RS, and then the first remakes of the Generation V Games.I See all these, except the First remakes of RS, unlikely.[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 17:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -[[User:The REAL Dialga|The REAL Dialga]] 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::This article is basically a list of patterns through the game series and that's all it ever can be. As I said below, actual Gen V information would go on the Gen V pages. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnemite ==
If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==About Arceus==

"The legendary pokemon are more powerful in new generations. With Arceus as the god Pokemon of the universe, it would be hard to make a stronger one."
I HATE this argument. Just because it is credited with creating everything does NOT make it omnipotent, or unsurpassable in any other way. Technically, it's only been known to do one thing, and that's creating other pokemon (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) which in turn did all the work of creating the universe. And it's arguable that legendary pokemon are mor powerful in each generation (until Arceus, I don't think even the base stats of them were ever improved upon much-- are Groudon and Kyogre that much more powerful than Ho-oh and Lugia?). I'd say their powers and range of influence are just made "cooler", and I doubt Game Freak would be at a loss for that-- Many other fundamental aspects of the universe still have no legendary pokemon to call their own, like life and death. I'm not saying that this argument should be deleted from this page; after all, this is about the fandom, and many fans have the opinion "ARceuS Is gOD!!!1! ZOmG GameFreaKs caNT FoLlow Taht up!!!1!!!!!111!"
I just think it should be rephrased, maybe as "Some people argue that because Arceus created the Pokemon world, Gamefreak would have difficulty making a more awesome pokemon next generation in order to maintain interest in the franchise." Something like that. Any thoughts? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, who said, in the current generation, there has to be stronger pokémon then the last.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::The whole article is fanspeculation. It is a valid argument, and I've rephrased the whole entire section to make it somewhat more encyclopedic. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that's much better. Even I couldn't have phrased it that well! Thanks! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont think that arceus is directly referred to as a god but his ability to create the three dietic dragons and the three lake gaurdians make his ability '''DIVINE'''(like all other legendaries), so there's no point of dubbing him as a god. And that would be offensive to religions, so nintendo would've thought of that point before approving of arceus'release to the fourth generation.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:It is not stated as such any more. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

::I believe somewhere in Gen IV they mention people worshipping Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus as gods. It might be Cynthia's grannie I'm thinking of, but she says that Dialga and Palkia were "revered as dieties" or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

that is exactly what i'm saying, 'revered as dieties' but not actual gods, but actually the sinnoh myth is based on shinto which might possibly have been confusing for the pokémon community.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:But diety refers to gods, or somthing/someone on the level of a god. If you can find a meaning that's different, then please do. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'm no longer arguing that it isn't a "god" (as the word itself is quite vague. All I was saying is that the assumption that Game Freak won't be able to come up with something more powerful, as well as the assumption that they have to with each new generation, are both misconceptions. And again, as this is about the fandom's opinion, and many are of the belief that Nintendo has to do both of these things to make a new generation (and that they couldn't if they wanted to), I think the amended wording suits it fine. {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}
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== page is messed up ==

I suggest rearranging the page into several sections or put into a table--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== um..... ==

there could be a future Generation starting off at Route 49 getting rid of that LONG gap between [[Route 48]] and [[Route 101]]--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 17:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

if the gap between routes complete a full number sequence, that means that between johto and hoenn there are most probably two generations, between hoenn and sinnoh there are about four generations, of course if I take this ''if each region has about 27 playable routes'', of course its an assumption but good point to be mentioned if the numbering counts. yet there's the problem of the pokémon world's route numbering system which could exist as some kind of government policy, if it exists.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not to mention that, if a new generation's [[country]] includes a route number starting right after the last route number of another country, that would heavily imply that said other country is accessible in the game. For example, if [[Generation V]]'s country were to begin at Route 49, that would imply that at least [[Johto]] is accessible in the main games of that generation. [[Hoenn]] began at 101, [[Sinnoh]] began at 201, and the [[Sevii Islands]] did not number their routes, all to avoid these implications.

:(For the record, yes, there is a precedent for [[Route 47]] going west from {{ci|Cianwood}} when [[Route 46]] is on the eastern side of the country. The precedent is [[Kanto]]'s [[Route 24]], north of {{ci|Cerulean}} while [[Route 23]] is on the west side of the country.) {{unsigned|Shiningpikablu252}}

:um... what's a precedent?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::and I still say that they can fix that long @$$ gap between Johto and Hoenn's region number's without making Johto accessible. The excuse? A land Bridge between Johto and Hypothetical Generation V region that vanished over time.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
There could also be no more Pokémon games. The moral of the story is we base our information on the trends of recent games, not what a handful of fans think is possible. Because anything's possible. Even an elephant bird (ten points for getting the reference). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

true. But there are some people (like me) that are insane about Pokémon. If the series is stopped we will band togéther to attack nintendo. There's still SO much Nintendo can put into Pokémon. And besides it makes them money. I don't think they'll end it yet.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

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== Rewrite ==

I largely agree with trom's reasoning that we needed to rewrite this page, but am concerned that we are losing a lot of information by doing this transition so suddenly. I certainly feel that any of the "evidence" sections, we retain on other pages, and that it's easy to find on those pages. As for the format, I'd advocate a few more bulleted lists, as I think it is easier to pick out on the page than a whole load of prose to wade through. I know you had good intentions though trom :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 19:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:If you feel I removed anything of importance, then feel free to put it back in. I did think that some items listed were overtrivialised, so I took them out. As for the format, the sections with paragraphs is generally preferred for overall article quality. Thanks for your feedback. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay so I agree that most articles should have sections and paragraphs, but I contest that this is a "normal" article. It reads more like a list, which has been converted to a formatted article (which incidentally is basically what has happened). Perhaps instead, some of this content should be migrated to a "List of patterns common to all Pokémon games" and then merely referenced from this article? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 18:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This page was better before the rewrite. Put the evidence back in. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 01:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I disagree; it looks much cleaner and more professional now, while the old version was fairly jumbled. If you want to add old information, at least put it in a more organized manner than before. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 05:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think the article looks better without all the bullet points. It's a lot easier to read. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Redundant ==

Disclaimer: This article is purely fan speculation. There is NO evidence for or against it.
Section:evidence for gen V.
Section:evidence against gen V.

lol
--[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 14:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:It said '''solid''' evidence. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Could be a new handheld==

I did not know where else to put this so... I was just reading NGamer(uk 46) and it has an artical on page 6 about what Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said in an interview with japanese newspaper Ashi Shimbun. They report that when asked about a future generation of handhelds he apparently said that that the new consol would have "highly detailed graphics, and it will be necessary to have a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing". With earlier reports of Nvidia working on a chipset for Nintendo, and Game Freak advertising a while back for a 3D artist (or something), I believe that the 5th gen of Pokémon is close and we may even see sneek previews of the next handheld by the end of the year, sounds to me as if they are working on it by now (could even be in testing as NGamer have a ''mock'' picture of what they believe is in the works). {{unsigned|011384mm}}
:It's already announced. You might not know because it was revealed 1 or 2 days ago. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== A Little Spelling Error ==

Since this page is protected, there's a really small spelling error. - "Just as Red and Blue were made in Generation III, and Gold and Sliver in Generation IV, it is most likely that Ruby and Sapphire will be remade in Generation V." It should be Silver not Sliver. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed, thanks for noticing. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 23:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::Another minor error that was over looked in what Ugoz pointed out, made should be changed to remade.[[User:NnN Neo|NnN Neo]] 03:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== Add info about Gen V ==

Could someone delete the references of generation V. Or Atleast reword them. also, plz mention Gne. V in the begining paragraph. thankyou[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Also, can add a link to Gen 5 at the bottom of the page.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::In progress. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Also a reminder: in "Speculation against future generations", if it even remains relevant in the short term at all, everything involving the unlikelihood of the fifth gen in particular (or unlikelihood that it will be on the DS) should be removed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 19:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::...Hello? The page still talks about the possibility of an already-confirmed fifth gen not happening, even saying no new Pokemon have been revealed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 02:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two Sets of Remakes in Generation V and Beyond? ==

I Think that if they ARE Going to remake Ruby and Sapphire in Gen. V, then they would have to do remakes of FR/LG, because FR/LG have the exact same quality as Ruby/Sapphire. And then, they would probably have to remake DP in Generation VI, if there ever will be a Generation VI.Should there be a Generation VI
in 2013 or whenever (2013 is my best guess, or 2014), then there would have to be more remakes of HGSS.
Then, in an seemingly unlikely Generation VII, would come reremakes of FRLG and RS, and then the first remakes of the Generation V Games.I See all these, except the First remakes of RS, unlikely.[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 17:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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== Non-GBC Songs? ==
What happens if you try to use the GB Player in a place were the music didn't exist in GSC, such as the GTS, or in battle against Ho-Oh or Kyogre or something?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 18:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:It'll play an 8-bit version. I saw a video of someone in the GTS with it. I'll try to find the video.--[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 18:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwJ8eoXYCk @ 5:50 --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 19:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Battle against Ho-Oh is not giving me the GBC-quality music for some reason with the GB Player... I just tested this out on SoulSilver and it's definetly playing the same version. Unless the differences are so subtle that I can't tell. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

== Are they actually the original versions? ==

I heard that the 8-bit music isn't identical to the original Game Boy versions - similar, but apparently the compositions are a little different. Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? Also, does it only change the overworld music, or does the battle music also alter? --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 17:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Battle music changes with the overworld music. I've only seen videos of the thing, though, so I can't tell 100% if it's the same or slightly different-sounding. D: [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 21:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Only the background music changes and that applies to everywhere, considering you're playing your adventure, since the title screen and else similar remains with the HGSS versions. As for being rearrangements, I cannot confirm as some tracks sound exactly the same as in GSC. I think that those that sound exactly as the originals but have some slight changes might be due to the differences in the hardware between the GBC and the DS. Also, don't forget that the GBC only had one speaker so the audio was mono, whereas the DS has two, thus providing stereo audio. ;-)
::And the GB Player version of the Dark Cave and Ice Path theme sounds trashy compared to the original. =P [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 10:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:::The GB Player version of New Bark Town's theme sounds very different to me. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 03:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure that the GB Player music is emulated Gameboy Color music thus some songs may not sound exactly alike from the originals. It's especially evident in some tracks. Game Freak still gets huge kudos for the effort anyway.[[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 05:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

Is this a key item? If so, it's not noted at all... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, in the disambig line it is. Other than that.... fail. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::X.X [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== Article Name for "GB Player" ==

Why is the title name of the article still"GB Player"? I thought they named it "GB Sounds" in the English Games.

--[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 14:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)