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== baby text follow up ==

So, the new updated baby Template:Cardtext/Baby template you mentioned me does not support [[Smoochum_(Aquapolis_61)|this card]]. Thought I'd let you know! :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 13:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
:UPDATE: It won't support any of the babies of {{TCG|Aquapolis}}. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 14:11, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
::I have addressed this issue [[User:Maverick Nate/Babies|one year ago Sunday]], and we will get to it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:02, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

== card infobox print ==

Shouldn't the card shown in the info box of [[Delcatty_(EX_Ruby_%26_Sapphire_5)|this card]] be the most recent one (EX Power Keepers) ? It has the same code in the same order than [[Blaziken_(EX_Ruby_%26_Sapphire_3)|this one]], which shows the most recent one. How do you do that? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:55, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:It cycles on a timer. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 17:10, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== CP6 ==

Hi. I was just wondering for the cards from the Expansion Pack 20th Anniversary subset, are we redirecting to the original Base Set article or creating a new article? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 20:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:Only reprints are ever redirected to their original article. If the card features any gameplay-differing differences, then it is considered a brand new card. If the card plays the same as its retro print, then it should be redirected to the Original Era card, as it is only then considered a reprint. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::Actually, may I know the difference between [[Charmeleon (Base Set 24)]] and [[Charmeleon (Expansion Pack 20th 10)]]? And if so, may I request to have a check on the CP6 articles I recently created and delete accordingly? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 21:04, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:::All the articles you've created so far are fine. Kakuna has a different attack effect for Stiffen, causing the attack to play differently. Mew has an Ability instead of a Pokémon Power, which makes the Expansion Pack 20th Anniversary Mew interact with cards like {{TCG ID|Dragons Exalted|Garbodor|54}} while the Original Era Mew would not. Koffing is Psychic type and not Grass type, making it interact with different cards' Weaknesses and Resistances. Charmeleon's attack damages are different. Honestly I'm expecting there to be far fewer exact reprints than brand new cards. I was actually pretty surprised when I looked at Caterpie and realized they were the same. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:13, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::::So apparently, only Caterpie and Weedle are exact reprints. I have make a mistake on [[Hitmonchan (Expansion Pack 20th 60)]] and realized that they are two different cards, because of the HP and attack damages. I may have accidentally blanked the article, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::Not a problem! Thanks for seeing something happen with the other cards and coming to me to ask about it! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 09:19, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

== TCG vs tt template ==

So, while I understand the uses of when we link a Ppkémon to its TCG card page when talking about the card name, but can you explain [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Feebas_(EX_Hidden_Legends_61)&curid=53698&diff=2509054&oldid=2508992 this edit] ? I would like to know why we shouldn't use the tt template instead, it makes it read as <code>Search your deck for a card that evolves from this Pokémon</code> which is more than accurate. Anyway, I've undone [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vulpix_(EX_Hidden_Legends_81)&curid=31160&diff=2509064&oldid=2509043 this one] too in case it should stay like it was. I'm waiting for your input on this ! :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 01:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:A card that evolves from Vulpix won't only evolve from the specific EX Hidden Legends Vulpix, but any card printed with the name ''Vulpix''. Thus, that reference isn't only talking about that specific card and is linked accordingly. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== adding merchandise ==

Let's say that I want to add merchandise to the page that doesn't have it. For example [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/product-gallery/battle-heart-tin this one]. How shall I proceed? Because I saw that many were missing. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 00:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
:Find the appropriate Series of merchandise it belongs to, along with any relevant news stories, tweets, and images on Bulbanews and Archives. Post it chronologically with all of those links on the merchandise page, with a paragraph or two that includes all there is to know about the products and any exclusive merch inside them, written in such a way that makes the prose for that section distinct from the ones before it. (That page for this set of tins would be [[XY BREAK TCG Series merchandise|this one]].) Give the section any relevant subsections like ''Promo cards'' and ''Product images''. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
::The XY BREAK Series merchandise page is at least 30 products behind, so as with everything, it is preferred slash advised that as many are posted in {{tt|as few edits as possible|read: one}} rather than adding each individual product one by one. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:31, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

== template modification ==

[[Template:TCGGallery|This template]] needs to be updated to accept at least 16 cards (15 current) in order to add every print of [[Gym_Badge_(XY-P_Promo)|this card]]. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:03, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
:You're probably working on this at the very moment, but just to let you know, you forgot a "|" after the line <code>| {{#if: {{{image16|}}}||style="display:none;"}} |</code>{{tt|*|look into the page code or else you won't see it full}} and so for every line after a 3rd consecutive print (so 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, 19, etc.) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 20:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

== Viewing articles in a cross-section of categories ==

Hey man, been awhile. I just started a desk job where I have a fair amount of down time, so I figure I'll do a little work in my free time. Anyway, quick question that I should know the answer to: is there anywhere I can put in two or more categories and see all the article that are in both/all of said categories? Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|'''Politoed''']][[User talk:Politoed666|'''666''']] 21:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
:Hey there! Glad to see you back! From what I can tell, I don't think this exists. I looked into the Special pages too, and don't see anything that looks like it will do what you want. Sorry I can't be any help! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:46, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
::A relatively simple solution would be to do two searches and exclude one from the other. Like search for [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=Search&search=incategory%3A%22Mythical+Pok%C3%A9mon%22 incategory:"Mythical Pokémon"] and then [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=Search&search=incategory%3A%22Generation+VI+Pok%C3%A9mon%22+-incategory%3A%22Mythical+Pok%C3%A9mon%22 incategory:"Generation VI Pokémon" -incategory:"Mythical Pokémon"]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

== Quick question! ==

Hi! I'm fairly new here, and while flipping through random pages to look for things that need editing, I noticed that the image we have for EX Legend Maker {{TCG ID|EX Legend Maker|Aron|48}} has some sort of funky scuff mark (maybe pen?) near the 20 for Headbutt's damage. Is there a way we could get a better image? Is there someone else I should notify to get a better picture? (If I had the card I would scan it myself but alas...) I'm still finding my way around here so thanks for any help! [[User:Terra Antiqua|Terra Antiqua]] ([[User talk:Terra Antiqua|talk]]) 21:54, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

== Evolutions ==

I mean, I don't want to direct traffic to the TCG without your consent :P ..but I knew about the hatnote, which I think is just fine for those who type in "Evolution" and expect to land at the TCG expansion. And it's really hard for me to imagine how someone typing in "Evolutions" is that much more likely to look for the concept rather than the expansion that a hatnote is the way to go. I was actually torn between a disambiguation and a redirect to the TCG (and another hatnote there). So, are you really sure? Or is there maybe something more to it, something I'm missing? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 23:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
:I try my best to avoid disambiguations, so I've redirect Evolutions to the expansion and added new hatnotes there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 08:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

== Hyper Rares. ==

Just a quick question to be sure. For the purpose of the {{TCG|Full Art card}} page, the new Hyper Rares count as Full Arts, right? Or will they be considered something else? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 19:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think it is fine to say that they are. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:48, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

== SM001 Sun & Moon ==

Hi. Just wondering if I'm good to go or would you want to upload the images before I do the edits. Just to inform you, I have already done ALL the Pokémon (excluding Trainer/GX/Rare Secret/Rare Ultra/Hyper Rare), all I need is to press submit for all of them. And for Cosmog, Cosmoem, and Eevee having the Collection Sun and Collection Moon Pokédex entries differences and the English entries having use the Pokémon Sun Dex entries. Should I put as "Sun & Moon/Collection Sun prints" or "{{tt|Sun & Moon|Collection Sun}} print"? And they have made changes of "his or her hand" into "their" hand, should I just leave it with "their" on the article? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 09:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:I won't be getting to scans anytime soon, so they are good to go as is. Change all instances to "their" since that is what is written as the cardtext now. Follow the precedence listed on [[Slurpuff (Generations RC20)]]; list "Pokédex entry (Sun & Moon print)" and "Pokédex entry (Collection Moon print)". ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::I know we will be diverting to ''Category:Holofoil cards'' soon, so should I add that or ''Category:Holographic cards'' now to the Holofoil of Sun & Moon. Currently doing the items so I thought I asked. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 01:55, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Category:Holographic cards is fine for now. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
::::So should I leave Nest Ball and Rotom Dex in the Holofoil category currently, because if not, that would make Holofoil be an empty Category article. Also, is the four Rare Secret ITEMS in Sun & Moon just Holographic and Secret or Full art as well since I saw Glik putting Full art in also? Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Either is fine. One of the categories is going to end up empty eventually anyway. Sun & Moon secret items are Holo, Secret, and Full Art. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]''

== Pokemon-GX page ==

Hey there. I don't know if you've seen my last response in my Talk page but I just finished the page: {{TCG|Pokémon-GX}}. Check it to see if everything is okay. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 18:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
:It looks really good! Thank you! I appreciate the work you put into the TCG here. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
::Cool, man. Glad you liked it. btw, I wanted to ask you about something else. The last time I updated the {{TCG|Full Art card}} page, I added the recent UR Double Colorless Energy from SM1+ to the list, however, first, I don't know if it is supposed to be considered a Full Art and second, if it is, I'm guessing the template has to be updated (or there's a way to do it and I don't know) cause I can't make it to show the entry for the card properly (namely, it shows the fire energy symbol by default instead of the colorless energy symbol after the 'E'). I ended up hiding the entry in the code for now. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 21:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
:I'll look into it sometime soon. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 06:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

== Note that needs to be modified ==

[[Holon's Electrode (EX Delta Species 21)|These]] [[Holon's Magneton (EX Delta Species 22)|cards]]' foot note must be modified to make the last sentence (the one in parantheses) italic. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 20:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

== 2016 World Championships Decks ==

I created them in my usersapce, as I wasn't sure whether I should mainspace them without pictures. Also, I don't know whether it should be "Bebe" or "Bebe Deck". I was hoping maybe you could continue from there!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:To make life easier, and because I believe those are by TPCi (I'm new to this), you (or any other TCG staff) might be able to grab images from here: [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bshunto-sadahiro-%28black-dragon%29-699-16767 1] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bjesper-eriksen-%28bebe%29-699-16768 2] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bshintaro-ito-%28magical-symphony%29-699-16769 3] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bcody-walinski-%28ninja-blitz%29-699-16770 4].
:Also, links to the created pages are here: [[User:Nescientist/Black Dragon (TCG)|1]] [[User:Nescientist/Bebe (TCG)|2]] [[User:Nescientist/Magical Symphony (TCG)|3]] [[User:Nescientist/Ninja Blitz (TCG)|4]]. Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::I'll do that right away! Good job on the deck pages! Sorry I missed this. Keep up the good work! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
== Sun & Moon Expansion 3 ==

If it's okay with you, I have made a page about To Have Seen The Battle Rainbow/Darkness That Consumes Light. There was a picture with the card packs, with one featuring [[Ho-Oh]], the other featuring [[Necrozma]]. It also shows the release date for its debut in Japan, along with the number 150. I'm not sure if that's the total amount of the cards in the set.

Also, I saw said picture online.--Hamfart 17:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:Nice! Thank you! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

== Regarding TCG cards that have different effects in different languages ==

Hello, Maverick Nate. I have noticed that several cards like [[Grimer (Team Rocket 57)|this Grimer]] have differences between the English and Japanese release. I was wondering if it would be alright to create a category to note these cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 22:26, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:I think that a category for now would be acceptable. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

== TFG conditions. ==

Not sure if it's good idea to link Duel figures to that article, since paralysis works differently than in TFG (for reference, it now always chooses the smallest non-miss piece and turns it into Miss; this will affect all instances of that piece like the four dodges on {{TFG ID|Duel|Metagross|11}}). Should I add the conditions/markers that are in Duel or would that be better suited for a separate article? [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:48, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:Looking at it, I think a separate page at {{redlink|Special Conditions (Duel)}} would be better suited for this situation. Otherwise, I'm not the person taking charge of this side game, given that I haven't ever played it, I'm simply filling in the jname and jtrans for attacks and Abilities. It may be worth asking {{u|MisterE13}} for his opinion, as he is the user taking charge of this side game. That being said, if you could add the jname and jtrans for Dodge and Miss going forward, I would appreciate it. They are <nowiki>|jname=ミス|jtrans=Miss for Miss and |jname=かわす|jtrans=Dodge for Dodge</nowiki>. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

== Pokémon Legend image link ==

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_LEGEND.png

I noticed on this page that most if not all pages that are noted to link to the image do not contain a link or even the image itself on their pages. Most of the card pages are from the Delta Species era of the TCG. Whereas cards such as [[Lugia LEGEND (HeartGold & SoulSilver 113)|Lugia]] which do use and link to the image are not listed as linking to that image. Is this an error or did I miss something when looking through the card pages? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 17:43, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_LEGEND.png&limit=500 You'll want to take a look at the full list over here]. Your list is only showing the 100 pages created the longest ago. All the LEGENDS appear at the bottom of the total pages, since their era is after the initial creation of all the EX Series pages. Other than that, I believe the other pages are simply using an old template that is being phased out anyway, so there shouldn't be an issue after all is said and done. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:22, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

== Alternate prints from Best of XY ==

Quick question: Are the alternate prints (originally from the Best of XY) released in the Mega Powers Collection supposed to be added to their respective set pages (e.g: M-Lucario-EX FA added to Furious Fists set page) or something else like a page listing them? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 16:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
:I was thinking we make some sort of promo page for them, but then also include them in the Additional cards list on the set pages. If any come up as alternates for black star promos, then listing them in-line with the rest of the promotional cards. Does that cover all the bases? From what I know about the alternate cards, I do believe that covers it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
::Ok, I think I got it. I'll create a page using the same template from the Miscellaneous promo cards/Jumbo cards (I think it's the one that fits the most in this case) and also list them in their set page like you said. Just one more question for now: The official site uses the term "Yellow A Alternate cards". I was thinking about making that the page name but also mention in the text that they are commonly referred to Alternate art prints (or something along those lines). Is that okay? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 15:55, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
::I just finished the page. See if everything is okay: {{TCG|Yellow A Alternate cards}}. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 19:40, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

== Ability List ==

Sorry it's been something like a year, but I finally finished going through the Japanese exclusives on the Pokémon Power list and I'm wondering how you'd like me to go about starting the list for Abilities (as there is currently no TCG-specific page for it), as well as how the Power table template should be changed to fit Abilites. Thanks! [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 20:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
:I'll get back to you on this. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
== Evolutions reprints ==

Should the cards with re-used art in [[Evolutions (TCG)|Evolutions]] count towards updating an illustrator in the [[List of TCG illustrators]], or should they be left alone? [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 07:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
:Yes. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
== New TCG page - Pokemon Snap Contest Winning Photos ==

While going through and adding links or updating TCG pages I noticed a few of the pages make note of Pokemon Snap contest winning photos. Does this warrant a page or is it fine to just move on and not give that a tcg page of its own? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
:I don't understand the question. What page in particular? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::[[Poliwag (Base Set 59)]] for example, however; after writing this I realized they already had their own page covering them on [[Illustration contests]] ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:17, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== TCG linking ==

Sorry for bothering again, I noticed when checking the main tcg pages for Pokemon that it states the Pokémon species names but does not link to that Pokémon's article. Would it be ok if I added links to their pages? Their pages link back to the tcg pages ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
:The header of each table on those pages is the link. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::Do you mean the link for the National Pokédex order? I checked but don't see the link. For example {{p|Bulbasaur}}'s tcg section has a link to the [[Bulbasaur (TCG)|TCG]] list for their appearances in the TCG but the TCG page itself does not have a link back to the Bulbasaur article itself. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:44, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
:::The header of the table [[Bulbasaur_(TCG)#Bulbasaur|here]], above the line '''"Cards listed with a blue background are only legal to use in the current Expanded format."''' is the link back. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see it now, thank you Maverick Nate, I appreciate the help. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:47, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== TCG section at the Mega Evolution article ==

I was just wondering if you'd like to just link {{DL|Mega Evolution|In the TCG|this section}} to the main {{TCG|Pokémon-EX}} article instead of listing them twice on both articles? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
:And would you like the Pokémon-EX article to include Standard and Expanded format coloring? (I will do it after the new format announcement, which should be coming soon) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:17, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

== SM4 Japanese names ==

Are we translating the SM4 Japanese expansions as "The Awoken Hero • The Transdimensional Beast"? I thought I asked before creating the page. And while I am here, can I request for deletion of my userspace pages: [[User:Ruixiang95/(Evolution for Future Gen Part2)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/(Evolve form for future generations)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/(Starter Pokémon)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/Aim to Be a Pokémon Master (single)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/SpritesFusion|this]] and [[User:Ruixiang95/The Greatest Everyday|this]]? Thanks ;) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 02:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
:If you want a userspace page deleted put <code><nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki></code> at the top of the page you want removed and wait for an admin to get to it. [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 03:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
::Hi Yuvira. It's been stated in the [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy#Content deletion|Userspace policy]] that "...delete multiple pages...then contact an...Editorial Board member on their talk page." So since I have more than 1 pages to be deleted, I can choose to contact them. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:50, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
:::I've deleted the pages. As for the set names, I've ultimately gone with '''{{TCG|Awakened Heroes}}''' and '''{{TCG|Ultradimensional Beasts}}'''. As a general rule, set names don't contain any of the articles ''a, an'' or ''the'', unless they are linguistically forced to. Additionally, Pokémon has always officially treated the past tense of the word ''wake'' to be "awakened", and has literally never used "awoken" ({{TCG|Legends Awakened}}, [[M16|Pokémon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend Awakened]], etc.). As for the other half, although transdimensional may(?{{tt|*|I say may but I'm giving more credit than deserved}}) be more common in English, another accurate translation for the suffix 超- is Ultra- instead of Trans-, which as the set is introducing [[Ultra Beast]]s from [[Ultra Space]], '''Ultradimensional Beasts''' fits the brand more accurately. I know that a certain website has already hap-haphazardly translated the set names as the names you've presented, however, they are notorious for missing how the TCG connects to the Pokémon brand and franchise as a whole (that also goes for translations of individual cards in addition to set names and such). I appreciate you coming to me first before creating the pages, because we are able push forward with the best representation of the content instead of having to retrace our steps later. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

== Shining Legends (English) ==

Hate to bother you, but please advise on the English Shining Legends. How are we going to differ the Japanese SM3+ and the English release for each individual card pages. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 20:30, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:Can you be a little more specific with the concerns? I don't entirely think it will be a problem. Hopefully all the cards end up being released, but I don't anticipate anything preventing it from going as normal. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry should have said it sooner. Regarding the card number since it's different for English and Japanese. So we just put it as Reshiram (Shining Legends 15) for Japanese and Reshiram (Shining Legends 14) for English? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 00:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's what we've done before. It had never been a problem yet. Any cards that have the same number are already the cards that belong there. Otherwise yeah, the english would just take on the new number. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

== Can you help? ==

So, I have a bunch of Pokemon stuff that would work well in Project Merchandise like this Pokemon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon Official Alola Region Strategy Guide and I don't know where to put it's info in. (Actually a LOT of things!) How do I make pages and stuff like that?
--[[User:Mira Zannah|Mira]] [[User_talk:Mira Zannah|Zannah]] 16:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

== TCG Illustrator lists ==

This is probably not that important but thought I would ask anyways as you are the current head of the TCG. Why is it that some illustrators simply have Category lists linked for all the cards they have illustrated while others just have an in-page list? Would it not make sense to have artists who have far longer lists be given collapsible tables with lists for each card from each set they have made? I plan to expand some of the TCG illustrator lists later but I do not want to touch the pages of artists who have extensive lists before then. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:06, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
:It all came down to time and man-power. The pages that are only three sentences and then a massive list of pages were the old style, and we were in the middle of converting them into actually informative pages. Since we already had pages that were lists of illustrated cards (categories), we removed them from the information pages because there's no reason repeating such trivial bulk stats. [[Masakazu Fukuda]] and [[Atsuko Nishida]] are the style of illustrator pages we're looking for. Anything that currently still has the list of cards illustrated are outdated compared to what we are currently looking for. We just didn't make it to update those ones yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
::If you think about it, pages like [[Shizurow]] and [[Miki Tanaka]] literally say nothing about the illustrator at all. They should talk about their contribution to the card game, their personalized style, the types of times they get contracted to illustrate for not only the TCG but all promotional media, etc, etc. [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/shining-a-light-on-new-card-art/ Pokemon.com] and other official websites occasionally release content detailing the illustrators, and we should compile content like that instead a bunch of links and lists that say nothing about the person at all. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

== Username Change ==

Hi there, was hoping I could get my username changed/updated to "danke", which is my most common translation username. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] ([[User talk:Mefredbob|talk]]) 20:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

== About List of Abilities ==

Sorry for any bother due by my changes on Pokémon Power article. The Outdated template on top of the page is confusing: it says that the article needs list of abilities. Also, Pokémon Power article, when it talk about Abilities, link to the Ability article, which states that Abilities are a renaming of Pokémon Powers. Should we delete that template and modify that statement maybe?
This template {{TCG|Ability}} redirect to {{TCG|Pokémon Power}} too.
Anyway, I have just noticed that the user {{User|Yuvira}}(previously RetroKitty) asked you about a possible List of Ability more than one year ago. Also just read a secion named "Lists (Again)" on your Talk page.
Given that Yuvira seems no longer active and given that we still need a list of Abilities on Bulbapedia, is there any chance of using what I've already written, for a new section which can be integrated in the Ability article? [[User:Laspandrea|Laspandrea]] ([[User talk:Laspandrea|talk]]) 11:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
:Absolutely! Sorry, I meant to get back to you about that. If you want to edit the content of [[Ability (TCG)]] to be a page about Abilities in the card game and use what you've already written, that would be the best course of action. Thematically, card affects that affect Pokémon Powers and card effects that affect Abilities are not interchangable, so we need to keep the two concepts separate from one another. Other editors who don't understand the difference probably added those "Ability content needed" tags to the Power page. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Talk ==

Hello, Maverick. How are you? I have been blocked from the Archieves for quite a long time. I wanted to talk about something there, but no luck. And I didn’t mean to have a problem there and I want to help there again. So, if there’s anyway I can get unblocked? I want an adjustment.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 23:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

== Japanese cards only in latest expansions? ==

Hi,in the latest expansions,almost all the cards from the galleries are in their Japanese versions,is this intended? If not,I have many cards from these expansions,I could scan them and upload them. {{unsigned|Leonardo828}}
:If you could get the English prints, that will be nice. Only English versions, cards in other languages are not allowed. The scans should be clear and easy to see, most probably without any wear and tear. Remember to upload them in .jpg format. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 08:41, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

== Pokemon Advanced Action Flipz 2003 ==

Hey Maverick,

Currently, there is no distinguishing between 2003/2006 Advanced Action Flipz,

2003 Flipz have different copyright and released in different booster packs,

I am requiring a setlist/ new page created for this set? Is this possible?

Also updated 2006 advanced action flip imagery would be great,

Happy to pay, reach out at connor@gradedgem.com

thanks

Connor {{unsigned|GroudonKing}}

== Reverting ==

Why'd you revert nearly all my recent edits?[[User:Huntress|Huntress]] ([[User talk:Huntress|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
:Long story short, the tag that you were adding wasn't value added. We do a lot of independent reporting and research for Project TCG here. A lot of the resources that are used are official print materials and/or the scans we have present on every card page, etc. Your edits involved a sweeping change to how things are done to tens of thousands of articles on the website, and with such a vast change, it needs to be approved by the proper channels to organize efforts to make all these changes, instead of just a random tag to a small random assortment of pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

== Request to change, divide, remove and renew "List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions" ==

Throughout the history of this page there has been suggestions to divide the page into List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions and List of Pokémon Japanese Trading Card Game expansions.

The English primary focus has meant that Japanese info is sometimes wrong eg set icons or missing eg set abbreviations many Japanese sets are also missing. This has also led to COMPLETELY ignoring sets released in other languages meaning it is extremely difficult to find what languages had which sets. The way the page is set also means that mini-sets and promos are also ignored.

I am requesting approval to remove the "List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions" page and replace it with the following pages;

-List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets - where most of the info will be transferred but also include promo-sets and mini-sets without increasing the sets number.

-List of Japanese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets - where most of the info will be transferred but also include promo-sets and mini-sets without increasing the sets number.

-List of German Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of French Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Dutch Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Spanish Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Korean Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Chinese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

[[User:The1pokedude1|The1pokedude1]] ([[User talk:The1pokedude1|talk]]) 22:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
:I'd like to see your idea in action! Feel free to draft up these pages in your Userspace (i.e. create pages at [[User:The1pokedude1/List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]) and show them to me when you are done! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

:: These are the pages so far.
[[User:The1pokedude1/List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List_of_Japanese_Pokémon_Trading_Card_Game_Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Chinese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Thai Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Dutch Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

I've also noticed that there far more English and Japanese sets that are not set for set comparisons, which furthers the point for splitting.
[[User:The1pokedude1|The1pokedude1]] ([[User talk:The1pokedude1|talk]]) 18:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

== Sample Set Info ==

Hi there, I've signed up for BP just to ask you a question about Sample Set. It seems you've made some substantial contributions to articles about some cards from this set – my interest in Sample Set comes from the fact it used e-Card ID numbers in the format M-##; this is the same ID number format assigned to the 9 cards in EX Team Magma VS Team Aqua that supported the e-Card technology. In trying to figure out why these nine cards, which use ID numbers M-01, M-03, M-04, M-15, M-16, M-23, M-24, and M-70, have so many gaps in sequence, without any apparent cards from EX Team Magma VS Team Aqua, that would fill in the gaps, I stumbled on the fact Sample Set used M-## as well.

My first thought was a-ha, case closed. However, M-04 Sample is Koffing, and M-04 TMvTA is Psyduck. I've drafted a write-up about my interest in these cards [[https://medium.com/@INTERNETFRIEND_83649/an-unknown-and-unsolved-mystery-of-the-pokémon-e-tcg-ex-team-magma-vs-team-aqua-and-sample-set-e12608909f7f]]; I'm wondering if you have any more information about these cards or could point me in the direction of resources or individuals that might; if there's any info or interest, I'd love for you to reach out to me on Twitter at @NICOTINEFRIEND or by email at pokvarensocialscene@gmail.com

Thanks. {{unsigned|INTERNETFRIEND}}

== Question for Maverick Nate ==

Good evening!

I sent you a note on the E4 forum about potentially adding a page to BP for the 1997 Tomy Pokemon Scratch Card set.

For starters, here is a great intro guide to these cards here within E4 by majomaal:
efour.proboards.com/thread/12666/tomy-1997-pockemon-scratch-card

I also sent you scans of all of my cards in a Google drive, but I don't want to post that publicly here.

Can you please check your e4 mail for that link? Or else, please email me at info@acciosearch.com

Thanks!
Accio

== Hello and best wishes ==

Hey Nate, not sure if you'll see this (or if you remember me!) - hope you've been well! I noticed on the front page just now that you're no longer in charge of Bulbapedia's TCG and thought I'd drop you a message. Firstly, congratulations on steering the ship for so long - we both started on the project at roughly the same time, which must be ''at least ten flipping years ago'' at this point - some things change, but apparently our shared soft spot for the TCG hasn't, despite how much the game itself has. I think it's absolutely incredible and impressive beyond words that you've been involved in the project for so long and goes to show how valued you must be. On the (not so rare) occasion that I find myself reminiscing about classic TCG, I always find myself here - you and your team have built up an incredible resource over the years. Whatever you're up to these days, I hope you're keeping well. All the best, and take care! Jack, aka [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 20:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
:Hello, I am going to piggyback on this to also say thanks for all you have done. When I first joined, you made me feel more at home from the harsh criticism I was getting. Those were some of my very first Wiki edits anywhere, and I went on to do thousands more! '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 07:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Oblivia

2012-11-09T01:46:55Z

Blake: Uploaded map. Removed tag

{{RegionInfobox
|regioncolor=GS |
name=Oblivia |
jname=オブリビア |
tmname=Oblivia |
image=Oblivia artwork.png|
introduction=[[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]] |
professor=[[Professor Hastings]]|
starter={{p|Pichu}} |
professor=[[Professor Hastings]] |
villain=[[Pokémon Pinchers]] |
pokelist=[[List of Pokémon by Oblivia Browser number|Browser]] |
}}
'''Oblivia''' (Japanese: '''オブリビア地方''' ''Oblivia-chihō'') is the region in which [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]] takes place. This region is an archipelago composed of several islands. It has many ruins, and legends. In the past it had temples used to worship Pokémon, such as {{p|Arceus}}. Across Oblivia are monuments that, when lit, form the [[Ranger Sign]] for {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}}. Also, in some places there are monuments that, when specific side quests are completed, reveal special signs for certain Pokémon that can join your team.

==Geography==
Oblivia consists of [[Renbow Island|three]] [[Mitonga Island|main]] [[Sophian Island|islands]] and several smaller ones. There are many places all over the region where [[legendary Pokémon]] reside.

==History==
{{incomplete|section}}
A long time ago, there were many temples in Oblivia. They included the [[Forest Temple|Forest]], [[Fire Temple|Fire]], [[Ice Temple|Ice]], [[Thunder Temple|Thunder]], [[Dark Temple|Dark]], [[Light Temple|Light]] and [[Odd Temple]]s. The oracles in the temples wore a form of armor, and were called [[Steelhead|Steelheads]]. The armor let them control Pokémon. Each temple had a captain, who controlled an exceptionally strong Pokémon.

==Locations==
[[File:Oblivia-Map.png|thumb|An in-game map of Oblivia.]]
===Islands===
* [[Dolce Island]]
* [[Renbow Island]]
* [[Mitonga Island]]
* [[Faldera Island]]
* [[Sophian Island]]
* [[Layuda Island]]
* [[Tilikule Island]]

===Towns/Cities===
* [[Cocona Village]]
* [[Tilt Village]]
* [[Aqua Resort]]

===Areas of Interest===
* {{ra|Sky}}
* [[Teakwood Forest]]
* [[Rasp Cavern]]
* [[Lapras Beach]]
* [[Coral Sea]]
* [[Curl Bay]]
* [[Rand's House]]
* [[Mt. Latolato]]
* [[Latolato Trail]]
* [[Wireless Tower]]
* [[Hinder Cape]]
* [[Mitonga Road]]
* [[Noir Forest]]
* [[Old Mansion]]
* [[Daybreak Ruins]]
* [[Dangerous Cliff]]
* {{ra|Submarine}}
* [[Sophian Road]]
* [[Canal Ruins]]
* [[Silver Falls]]
* [[Mt. Sorbet]]
* [[Oblivia Ruins]]
* {{ra|Eastern Sea}}
* {{ra|Western Sea}}
* [[Rainbow Dais]]
* [[Sky Fortress]]

==Trivia==
* The names of Oblivia's islands are based on the seven {{wp|solfège|solfège syllables}} of music notation, do, re, mi, fa, so, la, and ti.
* The name Oblivia comes from oblivion, meaning the state of being forgotten, or possibly oblivious, considering the fact that native people are unaware of the [[Pokémon Pinchers|Pincher]] invasion.

{{Oblivia}} 
{{Regions|GS}} 
{{DoubleProjectTag|Locations|Sidegames|every location in the Pokémon world and the Pokémon Sidegames, respectively.}}

[[Category:Regions]]
[[Category:Pokémon Ranger]]
[[Category:Oblivia]]

[[de:Oblivia]]
[[es:Oblivia]]
[[fr:Oblivia]]
[[it:Oblivia]]
[[ja:オブリビア地方]]

Oblivia

2012-11-09T01:45:47Z

Blake: /* Locations */

{{incomplete|needs=In game map of Oblivia}}
{{RegionInfobox
|regioncolor=GS |
name=Oblivia |
jname=オブリビア |
tmname=Oblivia |
image=Oblivia artwork.png|
introduction=[[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]] |
professor=[[Professor Hastings]]|
starter={{p|Pichu}} |
professor=[[Professor Hastings]] |
villain=[[Pokémon Pinchers]] |
pokelist=[[List of Pokémon by Oblivia Browser number|Browser]] |
}}
'''Oblivia''' (Japanese: '''オブリビア地方''' ''Oblivia-chihō'') is the region in which [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]] takes place. This region is an archipelago composed of several islands. It has many ruins, and legends. In the past it had temples used to worship Pokémon, such as {{p|Arceus}}. Across Oblivia are monuments that, when lit, form the [[Ranger Sign]] for {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}}. Also, in some places there are monuments that, when specific side quests are completed, reveal special signs for certain Pokémon that can join your team.

==Geography==
Oblivia consists of [[Renbow Island|three]] [[Mitonga Island|main]] [[Sophian Island|islands]] and several smaller ones. There are many places all over the region where [[legendary Pokémon]] reside.

==History==
{{incomplete|section}}
A long time ago, there were many temples in Oblivia. They included the [[Forest Temple|Forest]], [[Fire Temple|Fire]], [[Ice Temple|Ice]], [[Thunder Temple|Thunder]], [[Dark Temple|Dark]], [[Light Temple|Light]] and [[Odd Temple]]s. The oracles in the temples wore a form of armor, and were called [[Steelhead|Steelheads]]. The armor let them control Pokémon. Each temple had a captain, who controlled an exceptionally strong Pokémon.

==Locations==
[[File:Oblivia-Map.png|thumb|An in-game map of Oblivia.]]
===Islands===
* [[Dolce Island]]
* [[Renbow Island]]
* [[Mitonga Island]]
* [[Faldera Island]]
* [[Sophian Island]]
* [[Layuda Island]]
* [[Tilikule Island]]

===Towns/Cities===
* [[Cocona Village]]
* [[Tilt Village]]
* [[Aqua Resort]]

===Areas of Interest===
* {{ra|Sky}}
* [[Teakwood Forest]]
* [[Rasp Cavern]]
* [[Lapras Beach]]
* [[Coral Sea]]
* [[Curl Bay]]
* [[Rand's House]]
* [[Mt. Latolato]]
* [[Latolato Trail]]
* [[Wireless Tower]]
* [[Hinder Cape]]
* [[Mitonga Road]]
* [[Noir Forest]]
* [[Old Mansion]]
* [[Daybreak Ruins]]
* [[Dangerous Cliff]]
* {{ra|Submarine}}
* [[Sophian Road]]
* [[Canal Ruins]]
* [[Silver Falls]]
* [[Mt. Sorbet]]
* [[Oblivia Ruins]]
* {{ra|Eastern Sea}}
* {{ra|Western Sea}}
* [[Rainbow Dais]]
* [[Sky Fortress]]

==Trivia==
* The names of Oblivia's islands are based on the seven {{wp|solfège|solfège syllables}} of music notation, do, re, mi, fa, so, la, and ti.
* The name Oblivia comes from oblivion, meaning the state of being forgotten, or possibly oblivious, considering the fact that native people are unaware of the [[Pokémon Pinchers|Pincher]] invasion.

{{Oblivia}} 
{{Regions|GS}} 
{{DoubleProjectTag|Locations|Sidegames|every location in the Pokémon world and the Pokémon Sidegames, respectively.}}

[[Category:Regions]]
[[Category:Pokémon Ranger]]
[[Category:Oblivia]]

[[de:Oblivia]]
[[es:Oblivia]]
[[fr:Oblivia]]
[[it:Oblivia]]
[[ja:オブリビア地方]]

Talk:Pokémon Adventures

2012-05-09T14:41:57Z

Blake: /* Black and White Manga */

"PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokéSupe)." should be "PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokeSupe)." as there is no accented e in Hepburn. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 12:42, 7 January 2006 (CST)

Does anyone know a good website to read up on these? My library does not have any of them[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]

:So you guys expect me to buy them and post them on the Internet? Dream on...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|08:23 12 Mar 2008}}}'''
:yes. [[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Say, I've a question ==

If the Emerald chapter hasn't finished yet, why did the DP chapter start already? It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:08 26 May 2008'''''

:Technically, the Emerald chapter has finished in the serializations, but not in the volumes. Volumes don't come out the instant all of the chapters in them have been serialized. It may take quite awhile for successive volumes to come out, such as how it's been at least five months since {{PAV|28}} emerged and no sign of {{PAV|29}} on the horizon.

:I don't quite understand this double standard concerning the Emerald and Diamond/Pearl chapters, however. Diamond/Pearl chapter info usually gets updated as per the serializations, but Emerald chapter info usually waits for the volumes...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::Second question: What are serializations? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:47 27 May 2008'''''
:::Run as a series. In this case, a comic is serialized in a magazine (individual chapters are run in a magazine).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's even more complicated with PokeSpe, since different stories run on 3 different magazines (Shogaku 4-nensei/5-nensei/6-nensei). --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 12:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== English Release ==

Does anyone know when/if any of the volumes after the yellow chapter came out in english? because after the yellow chapter there is no listed US release date but I have been able to find up to volume 27 in english on ebay, but idk if those were fake, so I just want to know if they ever came out in english. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:The US stopped publishing in English so Chung-Yi now does it but only in the Singapore.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:My country has Emerald, if I remember it right. tc26 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Do they print it in singaporese or w/e language they speak or do they print in in english there? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It's only there not in the US.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:Chuang Yi does print the manga in English. They could also print versions in other languages read and spoken around Singapore, such as {{wp|Chinese language|Chinese}} or {{wp|Malay language|Malay}}...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::Chuang Yi has so far released volumes 5 to 27. I've so far seen the Gold chapter in Chinese, but no Malay yet...'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:25 25 Aug 2008'''''
:::Sorry to bring this up again, but Chuang Yi releases the volumes in British English (as by the Singaporean GOvernment standards dammit...) so...yeah. *shot for bring up dead topic* '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]

do you mean in the uk?[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

How can we get hold of it then?--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 01:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Maii|Maii]]

== Hmm... ==

Think we should put in ''why'' Viz stopped translating? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:37 7 Sep 2008'''''

:We might have to get [[Pokébeach]] to send a correspondent to Viz and get someone at Viz to explain. The currently-well-known reasons are anime popularity and cost, but it's possible that neither of them are right...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== USA Engilsh is back ==

I was at our Local Walmart and they have a VIZ version of DP vol 2 I was going to pick it up but I did not have the money

If I get the money I will buy one

I was under the impresion VIZ stop making them but their it was they had a lot of them so I hope they still have them when I go back to buy it{{unsigned|Jawsisra}}
:That's a completely different manga (''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]]''). Viz still isn't publishing ''Pokémon Adventures/Special''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== I read it on serbii net ==
can we put a link in? in the intnet it slems to be the best wetsite with it on.
will Joe and the guy who wirtes them mind? can someone look and ask.(I can not go to the
forms or e-mail and can't put in links to no where but Bulbapedia.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:No. Serebii is not an official source, should there be a link, it should be to netkun. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I found these sprites on Serebii and I uploaded them to the archives. [[Image:Serebii_Special_Sprites.PNG|250px]]

Should they be in the article or something?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Hm, well there are no lists of characters for Special... so I guess here could be ok, in a box with caption "main characters blah blah blah...". Can you trim the whitespace off the RHS first? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean something like this I found on the rival page?

{| align=left border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="70%"
! colspan="8" style="background: #ccf;" | Main Rival Sprites
|- align=center
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Spr RGB Blue 1.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Spr Y Blue 1.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[File:GSC Silver Johto.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[File:GSC Silver Kanto.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Wally game.PNG]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:FL Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 90%;"
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Yellow}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Crystal}}
| [[Wally]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Platinum}}
|}

--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Those are Serebii's sprites...I don't think it's a good idea to use them. It would be best if you just delete them. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, they were made by him? Whoops, didn't realise. Yeah, best to remove them then. He probably wouldn't like the fact that we're stealing them. Do we have an image policy about where we can get images from, btw? Sketch? Other admins? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yea not sprites for them >.>--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Okay......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh..... how do I delete an image from the archives?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:Just like here, simply tag it for deletion. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 02:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There's more to know than I thought.....--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wut? ==

"As of June 2009, Viz will be rereleasing the series from volume 1."

Is there a source for this? I found nothing on their website and it seems too good to be true.

[[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:This old news see Amazon.com or the forums.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::Ooooh. Somehow I totally missed that. Thanks! :] [[User:Zesty Cactus|ZC]]

== Uhm, guys ==

I think everyone's translating Pokémon Special. -.- Can you PLEASE stop putting links to translators??? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Special?==
So if it is always published in English as ''Adventures'', why is it called ''Special'' here all the time? I think you would be hard-pressed to prove that it is called ''Special'' by a majority of readers in English-language regions. --LaprasBoi 13:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. Viz is republishing the manga, and despite introducing a new logo and restoring the original Japanese right-to-left format, it's still called Pokémon Adventures. In addition, Red's rival (Oak's grandson) is still called Blue and not Green, while the girl is called Green and not Blue, despite this republishing coming after the release of FireRed and LeafGreen (the former of which had Green as a default name for the rival). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::It’s nice that someone agrees, but as long as the EiC and the head of the manga project both have a personal bias toward Japanese, I doubt this will go anywhere no matter how illogical the current state of affairs is. Also, I think the argument is meant to be consolidated at [[Talk:Green (Adventures)|Talk:Blue (Special)]], I saw an admin point somebody there who began to discuss it somewhere else. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 00:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==HeartGold, SoulSilver ==

Although Platinum hasn't even been released yet, would it be safe to assume that there's going to be a HGSS manga?
--[[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there is a Platinum chapter currently in serialization as the eighth chapter...

:Trust me, though, it's pretty much a safe bet we'll see a HeartGold/SoulSilver storyline in chapter nine. Nothing's 100% confirmed as of yet (and, as such, we're not going to just go out and create pages for chapter nine just yet), but precedent's never failed us before...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the Rereleases ==

So, are they gonna try and continue the series this time, or are they just gonna stop after 7 again. I thought they were gonna keep going, but then [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Amazon,_Shogakukan_announce_six_manga_release_dates this article] posted today seems to imply otherwise. Now i'm confused. I was really hoping they would keep going. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the moment we know that up to 7 are being released. After that? Only time will tell. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Grade? ==

"it was announced that Gakunen magazine Grade 5 and Grade 6 (at the time serializing the Diamond & Pearl chapter) would cease publication at the end of the fiscal year."..."As of December 2009, it has been confirmed that publication in the Grade 4 magazine will continue through 2010"

I'm not sure i understand this. It sounds like they first decided to drop the series, but then changed their minds and gave it another year. Am i right, or am i misinterpreting this? I'm assuming the name "Grade" means it's the same publisher. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== please...........someone tell me that this is fake ==

this.......................is this fake?

I've been wondering for a while now...I'm totally confused on wether to believe this is fake or not.....but..

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6080/12779710.jpg

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC))

:Sent the guy who supposedly did this a message. The date says July 5 when it was supposed to be released, so if there's not response until then, it ''should'' get posted on that site. If not, I deem fake. Where did you find this?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

got it from mangafox...but it seems so real I'm just wondering...all the others I've seen were all real and I've yet to see a fake one... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:What page exactly may I ask?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

On the website that was on the page,It said that this is fake.But,Only The World God Only Knows, Sock Monkey Loves You, Hack Link, Hakuoki 2, Bakuman and Deadman Wonderland are real.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 13:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:As LucarioWolf said, [http://chartfag.wordpress.com/about-this-moron/#comment-802 it's fake.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I knew it...I had heard that it was supposed to be best wishes there anyway

seriously..the sock monkey thing is real? wtf japan...([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Hitmonlee is shown with springy legs in the red arc as well, and lorelei says in yellow arc that bruno accomplished the impossible by having his hitmonlee's arms accomplish the same springyness as its legs. [[User:SamOak|SamOak]] 22:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)SamOak

== References? ==

Hey, how about putting fan-made translations as a reference link? In my opinion, the translations this guy made was very good. Anyone knows /a/nonymous scanlation? That's the guy. [[User:Milkgila|Milkgila]] 10:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Black and White Manga ==

I saw this on Amazon.com a few weeks ago and figured I'd mention now. It doesn't say "Adventures" on it but it is written and illustrated by the same people of the Adventure series. Link to the Amazon order page is below. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 20:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61g3HEK0PHL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Black-White-Vol-1/dp/1421540908/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309377895&sr=8-1
:[[Pokémon Black and White volume 1|Ahem]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Could somebody please find some official source that actually says that manga is part of Pokémon Adventures? Somebody on Wikipedia made a chapter list for it but doesn't mention it being part of the Pokémon Adventures series. I tried to look for a source, and NOTHING I came across said anything linking the two. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon Online (MMORPG)

2012-02-07T15:50:02Z

Blake:

{{samename| battle simulator|Pokémon Online (battle simulator)}}
'''Pokémon Online''' (commonly shortened to '''POL''') is a free-to-play Pokémon [[wp:MMORPG|MMORPG]] in development by a small bureau of dedicated fans. The project is handled by a wide variety of team members, the current leader being Platinum. The aim of the development team is for the MMORPG's implemented concepts to remain true to the original Gameboy series RPGs while also making it functional as a MMORPG. POL's planned features/functionality aims to match or exceed the most recent releases (currently {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}). Secondary concepts from the {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}}, {{pkmn|manga}}, and {{pkmn|anime}} may also be added. Many of POL's members assist the team by posting suggestions, helping to create sprites and revamp older ones, developing promotional graphics and videos, and more. Members are also given the opportunity to submit applications for staff positions such as Graphics Team, Databaser, Mapper, and Translator. Passed trials are required to attain these positions.

POL is currently in a beta stage and is still undergoing a lot of progress, and is not available to the public. Progress can be viewed by going to the Developer's Diary in the forums.

== History ==
=== 1995 - 2004 ===
[[File:pol1.png|thumb|left|A screenshot of an early alpha of Konidias's POL.]]POL originated on a well-known Pokémon web site called [[Bulbagarden]], by a regular who went by the name Konidias. This version of POL was being developed with a program called The Games Factory, in a modified style of Nintendo's first and second generation Pokémon games. The game was at its peak during the days of the 'old' Bulbagarden, when suddenly, the project was abandoned completely. The rumor remains that Konidias was forced to retire the hyped project after receiving an email from Nintendo, the company in ownership of the Pokémon franchise, stating that he was breaching copyright laws, threatening to take legal action if he carried on. However, this rumor is far from reality. In truth, despite the time and dedication sacrificed for the project, Konidias' interest in the project eventually ceased. Henceforth, the game's production did as well.[[File:pol2.png|thumb|right|Another screenshot of the same alpha of Konidias's POL.]]

=== 2005 - 2007 ===
In 2005, POL was resurrected by a new developer named Haris. Later recruiting a programmer named Syp3r and using Clickteam's Multimedia Fusion, the project became highly successful leading up to and after their Beta 0.6 release. The forums acquired over 100,000 members and became one of the biggest Pokémon communities on the Internet. Unfortunately, version 0.6 was closed down due to hackers causing the game to be unplayable.

Plans to release 0.7 were announced shortly after version 0.6 was closed down. After several delays, an announcement stated that version 0.7 would be the near-final version and hence delays were occurring to add new features.

After nearly a year, and no release, it was discovered that Syp3r had disappeared and no release was under development. Slowly, Haris also lost interest, missing server bill payments and, eventually, selling the domain and abandoning the project.

=== 2008 - present ===
In 2008, the project was revived by long-time head designer Platinum. Without a web site or forum community, the profile page of an international online artist community was the project's only development base. After months in the dark, POL was once again brought to public attention after an unofficial forum board was opened to serve as a temporary discussion base for the project. A new programmer named Pandepic was recruited to program the game using C++. Later, a blog was created to compensate for POL's long-gone web site.

POL has since released a brand new official web site, along with a message board and wiki, at http://www.pkmnonline.org.

== Website ==

The Pokémon Online Official Website is where announcements of the MMORPG's updates are posted, information about the project is displayed, contribution opportunities are enlisted, and communication methods are explained. The website is also accompanied by a public message board serving as a discussion and development base, a wiki, a "World Concepts Page" enlisting POL's planned concepts, and a project management system available only to staff members.

== Planned features ==
Most of the MMORPG's planned features were listed in a World Concepts Page, but was later substituted by an In-Game Faq in the message boards. It is highly recommended that before submitting an idea or suggestion, a person should read the In-Game Faqs. This is to avoid questions and suggestions that can simply be answered by reading the forum.

Some of the notable features that will be included are:

*All 493 Pokémon will be catchable, breedable and otherwise obtainable. [[Legendary Pokémon]] however, are slightly different. All legendary Pokémon (including any trios) can only be found after triggering an event, which will only happen once every year or so. This big change is being implemented to keep legendary Pokémon rare as they are explained to be by characters within the games, manga, and anime.

*A character-creation system will be implemented to give the player a distinct appearance in-game.

*If the player loses to an NPC or a [[wild Pokémon]] and had all of their Pokémon fainted, one wouldn't simply vanish to the last visited Pokémon Center. Rather the player will be prompted (if the option is viable) to choose to use a [[Revive]] or similar item, or to "escape" to the last visited Pokémon Center.

*All four regions, the Orange Islands, and the Sevii Islands will be explorable in-game. At the beginning, players will have the opportunity to choose their starting region among Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. After obtaining the eight badges of the region they choose, they will be able to travel to the Sevii Islands, the Orange Islands, the Battle Frontier, or the Fight Area, depending on which region they chose. They also have the opportunity to travel to any other region, in which the process will be repeated. This will continue until all four regions are explored.

*A second trade system similar to {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}'s [[Global Terminal|Global Trade Station]] will be possible. The player will be able to seek, offer and search a Pokémon. When posting an offer the player will be able to seek for the Pokémon he/she want in a lot more advanced way. One can seek by the Pokémon itself, its gender, status ([[Pokérus]] or {{shiny}}), from (in terms of region), level range, [[nature]], characteristic, and even what [[move]]s it knows. For status and 'from location' seeking, one must either have seen a Pokémon from the region or have once obtained a shiny or a Pokémon that was infected by Pokérus. When an offer has been posted, the system will auto-search for any matching Pokémon. When a match has been found the player has to wait for the original owner to accept the offer, decline or sometimes the system will cancel the offer if an error should arise. The system will not allow people to seek Pokémon that are incapable of learning certain moves or being at a certain level, examples are that one cannot search for a level 9 {{p|Mewtwo}} and cannot seek a {{p|Buizel}} that knows {{m|Ember}}.

*A Trading Card Game aspect will be implemented. Trainers will be able to offer two kinds of challenges: Pokémon Battles, and Card Battles. Merchant NPCs may sell booster packs... Their presence in the game adds a new (and entirely optional) dimension to the main gameplay. Efforts to compile a complete database on the trading cards is currently in progress. Currently, the POL TCG is planned to feature the Base, Jungle, Fossil, Rocket, Gym Heroes, Gym Challenge, and Promotional card collections, but not until after 1.0 has been completed.

*Players will have the ability to join Teams Rocket, Magma, Aqua, and Galactic. Players will also have the ability to create their own teams, or join another player's team (similar to the clan/guild system of other MMORPGs).

==External links==
* [http://www.pkmnonline.org/ Pokémon Online Official Web Site]

{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fan sites]]

List of decoration goods in Generation IV

2011-12-24T16:07:39Z

Blake: Not sure what the way to do this is, but I think this is required. When clicking on the link, I thought of the Devon Goods, not the actual subject of the page.

:Not to be confused with the [[Devon Goods]], an item from the Hoenn region.
[[Image:Underground-merchant-locations.png|thumb|300px|Location of the {{tc|Hiker}}s who sell and buy spheres from players.]] '''Goods''' are the [[item]]s, such as dolls and desks, that are used to decorate the {{player}}'s [[The_Underground|underground]] [[Secret Base]] in [[Sinnoh]].

Merchants in various parts of the Underground buy and sell goods in exchange for [[Spheres]]. Some goods can also be obtained from a merchant on the fourth floor of the [[Veilstone Department Store]]. Certain goods are also received for free from [[Mr. Goods]] in [[Hearthome City]] and the [[Underground Man]] in [[Eterna City]], who give them as gifts when the {{player}} fulfills certain requirements.

The rarity of the goods is determined by the size and color of the Sphere asked for in return. For example, because an Iron Beam is worth a Prism Sphere 9 and a Pink Dresser is worth a Green Sphere 54, the Pink Dresser is much rarer than the Iron Beam.

== List of Goods ==
{| align="center" style="background: #906858; -moz-border-radius: 15px; border: 4px solid #e8e0a0"
|-
| colspan="6" |
{| style="background: #906858"
|-
! style="background: #382858; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" | {{color|f8f8f8|Goods}}
! style="background: #382858" | {{color2|f8f8f8|Sphere|Sphere Cost}}
! style="background: #382858; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px" | {{color|f8f8f8|Location}}
{{undgd|None|Blue Cushion|8-10|red}}
{{undgd|None|Trash Can|8-10|red}}
{{undgd|None|Wooden Chair|8-10|red}}
{{undgd|None|Yellow Cushion|8-10|red}}
{{undgd|None|Rock Tool*|10-12|red}}
{{undgd|None|Smoke Tool*|12-14|red}}
{{undgd|None|Ember Tool*|15-18|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Meowth}} Doll*|15-20|red}}
{{undgd|None|Cardboard Box|20-25|red}}
{{undgd|None|Potted Plant|20-25|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Charmander}} Doll*|25-30|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Cyndaquil}} Doll*|25-30|red}}
{{undgd|None|Rockfall Tool*|25-30|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Torchic}} Doll*|25-30|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{P|Chimchar}} Doll|25-40|red}}
{{undgd|None|Big Smoke Tool*|28-32|red}}
{{undgd|None|Crate|33-40|red}}
{{undgd|None|Fire Tool*|33-40|red}}
{{undgd|None|Red Bike|33-40|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Plusle}} Doll*|60-70|red}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Snorlax}} Doll*|80-99|red}}
{{undgd|None|Plain Table|8-10|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Small Table|8-10|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Hole Tool*|10-12|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Foam Tool*|12-14|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Big Table|12-15|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Long Table|12-15|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Wide Table|12-15|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Glameow}} Doll|15-20|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Poké Table|20-25|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Wide Sofa|20-25|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Mudkip}} Doll*|25-30|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Pit Tool*|25-30|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Squirtle}} Doll*|25-30|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Totodile}} Doll*|25-30|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Bubble Tool*|28-32|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Fluffy Bed|33-40|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Piplup}} Doll|35-40|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Minun}} Doll*|60-70|blue}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Wailord}} Doll*|80-99|blue}}
{{undgd|None|Bonsai|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Dainty Flowers|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Lavish Flowers|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Lovely Flowers|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Pretty Flowers|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Small Bookshelf|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Vending Machine|8-10|green}}
{{undgd|None|Display Shelf|12-15|green}}
{{undgd|None|Refrigerator|12-15|green}}
{{undgd|None|Research Shelf|13-15|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Skitty}} Doll*|15-20|green}}
{{undgd|None|Big Bookshelf|20-25|green}}
{{undgd|None|Cupboard|20-25|green}}
{{undgd|None|Wood Dresser|20-25|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Bulbasaur}} Doll*|25-30|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Chikorita}} Doll*|25-30|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Treecko}} Doll*|25-30|green}}
{{undgd|None|Leaf Tool*|30-38|green}}
{{undgd|None|Green Bike|33-40|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Turtwig}} Doll|35-40|green}}
{{undgd|None|Bike Rack|35-49|green}}
{{undgd|None|Shop Shelf|35-49|green}}
{{undgd|None|Pink Dresser|50-60|green}}
{{undgd|None|Flower Tool*|65-80|green}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Wobbuffet}} Doll*|80-99|green}}
{{undgd|None|Iron Beam|9-10|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Pretty Sink|9-10|prism}}
{{undgd|None|TV|9-10|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Lab Machine|28-30|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Test Machine|28-30|prism}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Weavile}} Doll|28-30|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Game System|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Maze Block 1|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Maze Block 2|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Maze Block 3|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Maze Block 4|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Maze Block 5|48-50|prism}}
{{undgd|None|Healing Machine|90-99|prism}}
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{{undgd|None|Poké Flower|10-40|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Buneary}} Doll|15-30|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Alert Tool 1*|20-50|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Alert Tool 2*|20-50|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Alert Tool 3*|20-50|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Alert Tool 4*|20-50|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Blue Tent|20-70|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Red Tent|20-70|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Clefairy}} Doll|40-70|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Happiny}} Doll|40-70|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Jigglypuff}} Doll*|40-70|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Clear Tent|40-99|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Pachirisu}} Doll|70-99|pale}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Pikachu}} Doll|70-99|pale}}
{{undgd|None|Beauty Trophy|loc=Receive from [[Mr. Goods]] after completing [[Beauty Contest]] Master Rank}}
{{undgd|None|Blue Crystal|loc=Receive from [[Mr. Goods]] after meeting 100 people in the Underground}}
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{{undgd|None|{{p|Buizel}} Doll|loc=Buy at Veilstone Dept. Store for {{PDollar}}3000}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Chatot}} Doll|loc=Buy at Veilstone Dept. Store for {{PDollar}}3000}}
{{undgd|None|Cool Trophy|loc=Receive from [[Mr. Goods]] after completing [[Cool Contest]] Master Rank}}
{{undgd|None|Cute Trophy|loc=Receive from [[Mr. Goods]] after completing [[Cute Contest]] Master Rank}}
{{undgd|None|Glitter Gem|loc=Receive from the [[Underground Man]] after capturing 50 flags}}
{{undgd|None|Globe|loc=Receive from [[Mr. Goods]] after connecting to Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection}}
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{{undgd|None|{{p|Magnezone}} Doll|loc=Unknown}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Manaphy}} Doll|loc=Unknown}}
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{{undgd|None|{{p|Mime Jr.}} Doll|loc=Buy at Veilstone Dept. Store for {{PDollar}}2000}}
{{undgd|None|{{p|Munchlax}} Doll|loc=Buy at Veilstone Dept. Store for {{PDollar}}2000}}
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| width="33%" colspan="2" style="background: #f6625a; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px;" | [[File:Mine Small Red Sphere.png|20px]] Red [[File:Mine Small Red Sphere.png|20px]]
| width="33%" colspan="2" style="background: #6a8bff;" | [[File:Mine Small Blue Sphere.png|20px]] Blue [[File:Mine Small Blue Sphere.png|20px]]
| width="33%" colspan="2" style="background: #73bd4a; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;" | [[File:Mine Small Green Sphere.png|20px]] Green [[File:Mine Small Green Sphere.png|20px]]
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| width="50%" colspan="2" style="background: #9ccdff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[File:Mine Small Prism Sphere.png|20px]] Prism [[File:Mine Small Prism Sphere.png|20px]]
| width="50%" colspan="2" style="background: #ffb4b4; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | [[File:Mine Small Pale Sphere.png|20px]] Pale [[File:Mine Small Pale Sphere.png|20px]]
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(*)=Only available after receiving the National Pokédex

==See also==
*[[The Underground]]
*[[Sphere]]
*[[Trap]]
{{Stub|Game}}
[[Category:Items]]

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 20

2011-07-19T14:54:27Z

Blake: /* Abuse category */

{{:User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive directory}}
==Request==
Hello, Kenji; I have a little request. Well, I don't know if you know, but I know something that I saw when I first saw BW022. This little error amused me when I saw the Japanese episode. However, I want to add it to the article but I honestly have no idea how to describe it. I was just wondering if you could help. Here's the [http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/558/1300933822723.png scene]. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

== Business as usual ==

[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f300/complete-list-shippers-v8-4655/index423.html#post3307089 Ever think about these?] Or do none fit? *should have ask you when I had you before* 8O 'Cause I'm about to start collecting. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:I guess Tarragon could work :) --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
::=O Okay. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 22:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

== Don Battle trainers ==

Should they really be considered Characters of the day? They'll appear in more than one episode. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think they should. Except for the ones that got knocked out. Their future appearances are uncertain. But everyone else can be counted as recurring. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

== Bonjour ==

Sam, if you've some time, drop by on AIM please. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 04:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

== Ahem.. ==

Exactly, what do you mean "thoughout the events?" Zorua kept switching from her normal self to taking Langley's form throughout the episode. But think about it, why would Zorua be there in the crowd with them? It makes no sense... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 10:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
:Because Luke's in the crowd too... And she's Luke's Pokémon. She's even seen disguised as Langley when Bianca is trying to find her. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:53, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
::Well, if that isn't enough to convince you that it's an error. Would the fact that Langley two [http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6595/vlcsnap2011070915h43m46.png doesn't have a torso] count as one? I checked...the background has the same color as her shirt, but no features (her shoulders are missing) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:::If you look between Kenyan's arm and body, you'll see that Langley/Zorua dose have a torso - the colour seen is that of Langley's clothes not the wall behind them [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 19:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::::I just explained that only the color is there. Nothing else. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:59, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Still doesn't mean that one of them is not supposed to be Zorua. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

== BW023 ==

Unfortunately I wasn't able to gather the voices this week due to technical difficulties caused by my {{tt|wonderful|piece of shit}} Satellite receiver. Sorry. Also, think you'll get on later today? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:44, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:No big deal. Don't worry about it :P Yeah, I'll be on later. Dunno when though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 13:47, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::Uh...YEAH SPEAKING OF THIS. :D I just realized we also get CN with Western Coast times on everything as well as Eastern. And since it hasn't aired on the Western channel yet, I just set that to record~ x3 We should have the credits within a few hours~ [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 14:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::I thought it was acceptable to put down on the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=BW023&diff=1472852&oldid=1472851 error section] that {{p|Leavanny|this Pokémon}} did not recharge after using {{m|Hyper Beam}}. Other than that, it was the second gym battle in a row that a Pokémon didn't recharge after using the variation of the move{{tt|*|just wanted to let you know, not have it as trivia}}. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 01:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

== Movies ==

Wouldn't it be better to place in the movie infobox templates opening and ending songs, like with episodes? For example, the twelfth movie had High Touch 2009 (I think) and Battle Cry. While there are multiple ending songs, they can all still be placed. :) [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 04:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:Don't see why not. Sounds like a pretty good idea. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
::I'm done, but you may want to double check, especially the openings since we didn't have lists on those. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 06:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

== The seasons/series infoboxes ==

Is there a reason why we need both the series and season infoboxes when they can easily convey the same information in one template?

{{anime series}}

{{US Seasons}}

The links to the season pages in the seasons box could replace the links in the series box that just take you to a lower point on the listing page - that's really kind of redundant seeing as there are already links to the listing pages ''in'' the series template, and the contents tables at the tops of those pages make navigating easy enough already. Why not have one catch-all template? It would allow direct access between the episode listing pages and the season pages - something not possible at the moment.

{{#switch:{{{1|}}}|no=| }}
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| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff; {{roundytr|10px}} padding: 2px 15px;" | [[Pokémon: Indigo League|Indigo League]] • [[Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands|Orange Archipelago]] [[Pokémon: The Johto Journeys|The Johto Journeys]] • [[Pokémon: Johto League Champions|Johto League Champions]] • [[Pokémon: Master Quest|Master Quest]]
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| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[Pokémon: Advanced|Advanced]] • [[Pokémon: Advanced Challenge|Advanced Challenge]] [[Pokémon: Advanced Battle|Advanced Battle]] • [[Pokémon: Battle Frontier|Battle Frontier]]
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| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] • [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension|Battle Dimension]] [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles|Galactic Battles]] • [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Sinnoh League Victors|Sinnoh League Victors]]
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! align="center" style="background: #ddf;" | [[Side story episodes|Side stories]] ([[list of side story episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[List of side story episodes#Weekly Pokémon Broadcasting Station|WPBS]] • [[List of side story episodes#Interim side story broadcasts|Interim]] • [[List of side story episodes#Pokémon Sunday|Pokémon Sunday]]
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This seems considerably more efficient, and can be placed at the bottom of all the pages that use either of the two templates without making the box bigger or losing anything other than the direct jumps in the series episode lists.

-[[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig]]'''[[User talk:Thingamajig257|257]]'''- 10:13, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:That does look better :O --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Can you leave a thought on your own talk page? ==

I've been working on a Regigigas story, and it will be on my talk page, so can I put it on my talk page? [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 17:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:Fan fiction is not allowed on Bulbapedia. Sorry. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::Thank's for answering my question. You know on the Digimon wiki I asked a question and it took 2 whole days to finish answering a question! [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 17:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
But so you don't get many problems like [[User:Pikatwig|certain people]] get a "Final Warning" because of dumb stuff on talk pages, can you put it on your own talk page? [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 02:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:''"Fan fiction is not allowed on Bulbapedia."'' If you want to put it somewhere, it must go [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f227/ in the Writer's Workshop on the forums]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:::I meant ''personal thoughts''! Oh boy, so if you guys don't want people to spam talk pages make them type it on there '''''own''''' talk pages so people like me don't get in any more trouble! [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 00:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Your Regigigas Story is a work of fiction, done by a fan. It is therefore fan fiction, and cannot be put ''anywhere'' on Bulbapedia, including your own talk page. Putting something which would be considered spamming a talk page on your own talk page is no more acceptable than putting it elsewhere. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::You should let people know this when they join so they don't have to ask. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 14:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Well if new users took the time to read their '''welcome box''' on their talk pages you would see every policy and thing you know is there. Please do not act like you were not warned about this. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 14:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Pikatwig, please drop it now. Also, I've already [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl/Archive_19#Thanks_and_S.O.S told you] about help pages a lot of time. We have provided each and every single detail regarding the site's policies, rules, regulations and restrictions. They're there for the unregistered users as well. If the users don't bother to pay much attention to those pages then it's not really our fault and there is no reason to blame the Bulbapedia staff members for that either. Once again I would like to suggest you to go through our policies. Thank you, have a nice day. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 19:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
===Sorry===
Sorry about the dumb question. Sometimes i just forget. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 19:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== Party templates? ==

I was just wondering if I could use the party templates, before I get in trouble. I already made it but I haven't clicked "Save page" yet--I'm worried I don't have permission. Thanks! --[[User:YoshisWorld|YoshisWorld]] 01:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:You're free to use them. They aren't my personal party templates anyway. They are the ones used for the character articles. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, and while we're on the subject...how do you put shiny sprites in the party template? [[User:YoshisWorld|YoshisWorld]] 18:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)YoshisWorld
:::Where you put in its Pokedex number, just add a "_s". This loads up the shiny sprite. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 19:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== Update on Giovanni's secretary... ==
Earlier, we discussed the possibilities of Meowth referring to [[Giovanni's secretary]] by the name Matori in the Japanese version of [[BW023]]. The Chinese and English dubs of the episode have since aired - she did not have any name at all in English but was named a name that can read as "Matori" in Chinese. With this, I think the issue deserves to be revisited regarding if the page should be moved to Matori or not. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 05:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:I've already been thinking about this ever since the episode aired. And I'm still thinking of what to do. {{unsigned|Kenji-girl}}

== Drew's Flygon ==

I think it is a simalur situation with Nando, where his Roselia/Roserade took a back seat to Kricketune. Drew's Flygon has been part of very significant battles, also assisted Drew while trying to capthure Arcanine and rescued May that time Harley and TR were working together. In May's epic battle with Drew at the end of the Kanto GF, Roselia did not even feature whereas Flygon did. I'm not saying Roselia is not notable but I'am saying Flygon is as notable, maybe more, but as always it is your call.

Perrmission to create ''Drew's Flygon''? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 18:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:Drew's Flygon was already deemed unnotable by the editorial board two years earlier. I don't think anything has changed to give it more notability.

:I don't find Flygon to be the same situation as Kricketune. Kricketune obviously surpassed Roserade as Nando's main Pokémon. The same cannot be said for Flygon. Roselia is still Drew's main and most used Pokémon. And he used it against May in their last known battle together and appeared in cameos as Roserade. Flygon has yet to be seen again.

:Sorry, but the answer is no. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
::I soppose your right, I forgot about that last battle [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 08:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== Please ==
[[Talk:EP001|I like to see your opinion about this(section Trainer, most cleary)]].--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 02:05 13 July 2011

== Abuse category ==

Hi, a month and a half ago I (rudely) made a second edit to my userpage, and was put in the abuse category. Just wondering, would edits to spaces such as the walkthroughs count for the toll of setting me free, or does it need to be the mainspace? Because I don't want to make a bunch of fixes to the walkthroughs and still not be let off. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
:I would still like an answer for this. Do walkthroughs count for getting out of abuse? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
::I really don't know. As far as I know it's only for userspaces. You can ask another admin to make sure. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
:::I'd prefer the mainspace, but the appendices are okay. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:01, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Ok, thanks. I would have asked another admin right away when I realized you were ignoring my question, but I didn't want to seem pushy. :< '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

== Anime Episode Images May Be Temporarily Unavailable ==

Hey Kenji, I just wanted to let you know that over the next few days I'm going to be restoring and buffing the quality of lots of anime episode header images. I won't be changing their content, but instead saving the images and doing things like correcting color-balance and removing compression artifacts. As a result, it seems that upon uploading said images it takes 30-60 minutes for them to be cached across all of the bulbapedia servers, in between which they may disappear on the articles. The reason why I'm going on a bit of a spree is because I've noticed a ton of episode images that are either really dark, or have bad compression artifacts (i.e image noise, random squares of the wrong color, radioactive skin, etc). Just to clarify, I won't be swapping any of the images for different ones, I'll just boost the quality on the existing ones. If an image is so low quality that it's not salvageable, I'll take a screenshot of the episode from my Pokemon DVDs. In that case, I'll make sure it's the same scene as depicted in the original image. If you'd like to see an example of my work so far, you can compare the current image with the previous one for the episode image of EP001. I've actually uploaded replacements all the way up to EP005, but EP002-EP005 are still being cached and are only viewable when referenced directly at the archives. I hope you don't mind the temporary outage, but I think it's worth it :). I intend to do as many images as possible, I may even turn this into a personal project and over the next few months fix any low-quality images for the entire Pokemon series. Thanks for your time :) [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 23:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
::Just a followup, it seem to take longer for the archives to sync with the bulbapedia servers than I originally thought. Sometimes it's only an hour, but sometimes it's around 3-5 hours. Is there any kind I can put on the page to inform potential editors that the image will be available within a few hours? The thing is, the image displays correctly when clicked, but the thumbnail doesn't generate. Is there any trick to speed up the process? [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 14:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Another follow up, ignore the last message. It appears there was just a lot of server load last night, now the images seem to appear after half an hour or so. So no worries regarding outage times. Sorry for spamming your talk page :) [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 18:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== About message received ==
I got your message and I have been having difficulties with trying to find the voice actors for the Pokemon in the English dub. I just want to know how things normally work here, so I don't make the same errors again. I don't have any sources for credits so I don't rely on that a lot even when watching the closing credits as they don't tell me a lot about who is credited as a voice actor in that episode. Another thing is I have been trying to figure out the voice actors of some of these Pokemon and I can't find anything that would help me prove it, so unfortunately I having been guessing which the voices just by what their voice sounds like. I don't mean any harm to this website, I am only a beginner at editing pages and I still have a lot to learn, before I can edit these pages correctly
[[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] 04:25, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017
:All I asked was that you don't add "vaen=" in the templates if you don't have anything to put in there. It looks better if you don't add it until you have something to put in it.

:Also, you left this message in my talk archives. Please leave messages on my current talk page. You can get there by clicking the の in my signature. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay1 As I said on my own talk page, I am only a beginner on editing so I may make errors while I am editing. As for some Pokemon. I was going to ask you about some pages like Chili and Cress because they had "vaen=" way before I started editing those pages. They were found on the "In the anime" part on Chili's Pansear and Cress's Panpour respectively. I also have no sources that tell me who is credited as a voice actor for some of these Pokemon as a lot of these were left blank as if some uncredited in the English and Japanese versions of the anime. [[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] 04:43, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017
:That was a mistake on my part. The "vaen=" should not be added until the voice actor is discovered. It got left behind after I removed the voice actor but not the parameter. Still even after you added it,you were warned by me and other users not to add it unless you have something to add through the edit summaries. I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm simply asking you not to do it anymore because it isn't correct. You are not being punished for it.

:And honestly, if you don't have any kind of sources and are not sure about something, it's probably best that you don't try to make guesses. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
::The thing is, we cannot add info on the basis of ''assumption''. If it's not in the credits or any other source, it's better to leave it as it is rather than assuming it. Also, the empty parameters doesn't look good on the articles. That's why Kenji asked you not to add them. Thank you, have a nice day ahead :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 05:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

== Cynthia ==
Hello I am working on a page about the anime version of Cynthia where I want detailing her actions on the show. Well, I was wondering if I can continue with this or do that would be breaking a rule of the wiki?

Thank you for your attention.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 11:50 16 July 2011
:I don't think breaking a rule per say, but I don't think the article is necessary. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pokedex Edit ==

Why was my History section on [[Pokedex]] article reverted ? That's confirmed info from Pokemon 4Ever {{unsigned|Skarm}}
:You should probably ask the user that reverted you and not me. {{u|Frozen Fennec}}. Also... I don't recall that ever being stated in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

==Category for Ash's Infernape==

You Know How you deleted the page Category:Episodes focusing on Infernape, I think that page could stay, but it could be Category:Episodes focusing on Ash's Infernape {{unsigned|ReaNintendo}}
:No category's for non-[[walking Pokémon]]. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 20

2011-07-18T16:20:32Z

Blake: /* Abuse category */

{{:User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive directory}}
==Request==
Hello, Kenji; I have a little request. Well, I don't know if you know, but I know something that I saw when I first saw BW022. This little error amused me when I saw the Japanese episode. However, I want to add it to the article but I honestly have no idea how to describe it. I was just wondering if you could help. Here's the [http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/558/1300933822723.png scene]. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

== Business as usual ==

[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f300/complete-list-shippers-v8-4655/index423.html#post3307089 Ever think about these?] Or do none fit? *should have ask you when I had you before* 8O 'Cause I'm about to start collecting. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:I guess Tarragon could work :) --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
::=O Okay. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 22:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

== Don Battle trainers ==

Should they really be considered Characters of the day? They'll appear in more than one episode. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think they should. Except for the ones that got knocked out. Their future appearances are uncertain. But everyone else can be counted as recurring. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

== Bonjour ==

Sam, if you've some time, drop by on AIM please. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 04:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

== Ahem.. ==

Exactly, what do you mean "thoughout the events?" Zorua kept switching from her normal self to taking Langley's form throughout the episode. But think about it, why would Zorua be there in the crowd with them? It makes no sense... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 10:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
:Because Luke's in the crowd too... And she's Luke's Pokémon. She's even seen disguised as Langley when Bianca is trying to find her. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:53, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
::Well, if that isn't enough to convince you that it's an error. Would the fact that Langley two [http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6595/vlcsnap2011070915h43m46.png doesn't have a torso] count as one? I checked...the background has the same color as her shirt, but no features (her shoulders are missing) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:::If you look between Kenyan's arm and body, you'll see that Langley/Zorua dose have a torso - the colour seen is that of Langley's clothes not the wall behind them [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 19:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::::I just explained that only the color is there. Nothing else. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:59, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Still doesn't mean that one of them is not supposed to be Zorua. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

== BW023 ==

Unfortunately I wasn't able to gather the voices this week due to technical difficulties caused by my {{tt|wonderful|piece of shit}} Satellite receiver. Sorry. Also, think you'll get on later today? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:44, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:No big deal. Don't worry about it :P Yeah, I'll be on later. Dunno when though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 13:47, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::Uh...YEAH SPEAKING OF THIS. :D I just realized we also get CN with Western Coast times on everything as well as Eastern. And since it hasn't aired on the Western channel yet, I just set that to record~ x3 We should have the credits within a few hours~ [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 14:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::I thought it was acceptable to put down on the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=BW023&diff=1472852&oldid=1472851 error section] that {{p|Leavanny|this Pokémon}} did not recharge after using {{m|Hyper Beam}}. Other than that, it was the second gym battle in a row that a Pokémon didn't recharge after using the variation of the move{{tt|*|just wanted to let you know, not have it as trivia}}. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 01:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

== Movies ==

Wouldn't it be better to place in the movie infobox templates opening and ending songs, like with episodes? For example, the twelfth movie had High Touch 2009 (I think) and Battle Cry. While there are multiple ending songs, they can all still be placed. :) [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 04:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:Don't see why not. Sounds like a pretty good idea. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
::I'm done, but you may want to double check, especially the openings since we didn't have lists on those. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 06:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

== The seasons/series infoboxes ==

Is there a reason why we need both the series and season infoboxes when they can easily convey the same information in one template?

{{anime series}}

{{US Seasons}}

The links to the season pages in the seasons box could replace the links in the series box that just take you to a lower point on the listing page - that's really kind of redundant seeing as there are already links to the listing pages ''in'' the series template, and the contents tables at the tops of those pages make navigating easy enough already. Why not have one catch-all template? It would allow direct access between the episode listing pages and the season pages - something not possible at the moment.

{{#switch:{{{1|}}}|no=| }}
{| align="center" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="background: #dcdce7; border: 1px solid #dcdce7; {{roundy|20px}}"
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{| class="toccolours" align="center" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" style="text-align: center; line-height: 19px; border: 3px solid #88a; {{roundy|20px}} padding: 0px;"
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{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-size: 90%; background: #f9f9f9;"
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! colspan="2" style="padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 20px; padding-right: 20px;" | <div style="background: #ccf; {{roundytop|15px}} padding: 2px 15px;">[[Series]] and [[Season|seasons]] of the [[Pokémon anime]]</div>
|-
! align="center" style="background: #ddf; {{roundytl|10px}} padding: 2px 15px;" | {{series2|Original}} ([[list of original series episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff; {{roundytr|10px}} padding: 2px 15px;" | [[Pokémon: Indigo League|Indigo League]] • [[Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands|Orange Archipelago]] [[Pokémon: The Johto Journeys|The Johto Journeys]] • [[Pokémon: Johto League Champions|Johto League Champions]] • [[Pokémon: Master Quest|Master Quest]]
|-
| height="1" |
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! align="center" style="background: #ddf;" | {{series2|Advanced Generation}} ([[list of Advanced Generation series episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[Pokémon: Advanced|Advanced]] • [[Pokémon: Advanced Challenge|Advanced Challenge]] [[Pokémon: Advanced Battle|Advanced Battle]] • [[Pokémon: Battle Frontier|Battle Frontier]]
|-
| height="1" |
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! align="center" style="background: #ddf;" | {{series2|Diamond & Pearl}} ([[list of Diamond & Pearl series episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] • [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension|Battle Dimension]] [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles|Galactic Battles]] • [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Sinnoh League Victors|Sinnoh League Victors]]
|-
| height="1" |
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! align="center" style="background: #ddf;" | {{series2|Best Wishes}} ([[list of Black & White series episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[Pokémon: Black & White!|Black & White!]]
|-
| height="1" |
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! align="center" style="background: #ddf;" | [[Side story episodes|Side stories]] ([[list of side story episodes|listing]])
| align="center" style="background: #e6e6ff;" | [[List of side story episodes#Weekly Pokémon Broadcasting Station|WPBS]] • [[List of side story episodes#Interim side story broadcasts|Interim]] • [[List of side story episodes#Pokémon Sunday|Pokémon Sunday]]
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! align="center" colspan="7" style="background: #ccf; {{roundybottom|10px}} padding: 2px 15px;" |[[List of anime episodes|All episodes]]
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This seems considerably more efficient, and can be placed at the bottom of all the pages that use either of the two templates without making the box bigger or losing anything other than the direct jumps in the series episode lists.

-[[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig]]'''[[User talk:Thingamajig257|257]]'''- 10:13, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:That does look better :O --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Can you leave a thought on your own talk page? ==

I've been working on a Regigigas story, and it will be on my talk page, so can I put it on my talk page? [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 17:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
:Fan fiction is not allowed on Bulbapedia. Sorry. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::Thank's for answering my question. You know on the Digimon wiki I asked a question and it took 2 whole days to finish answering a question! [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 17:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
But so you don't get many problems like [[User:Pikatwig|certain people]] get a "Final Warning" because of dumb stuff on talk pages, can you put it on your own talk page? [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 02:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:''"Fan fiction is not allowed on Bulbapedia."'' If you want to put it somewhere, it must go [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f227/ in the Writer's Workshop on the forums]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:::I meant ''personal thoughts''! Oh boy, so if you guys don't want people to spam talk pages make them type it on there '''''own''''' talk pages so people like me don't get in any more trouble! [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 00:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Your Regigigas Story is a work of fiction, done by a fan. It is therefore fan fiction, and cannot be put ''anywhere'' on Bulbapedia, including your own talk page. Putting something which would be considered spamming a talk page on your own talk page is no more acceptable than putting it elsewhere. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::You should let people know this when they join so they don't have to ask. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 14:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Well if new users took the time to read their '''welcome box''' on their talk pages you would see every policy and thing you know is there. Please do not act like you were not warned about this. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 14:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Pikatwig, please drop it now. Also, I've already [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl/Archive_19#Thanks_and_S.O.S told you] about help pages a lot of time. We have provided each and every single detail regarding the site's policies, rules, regulations and restrictions. They're there for the unregistered users as well. If the users don't bother to pay much attention to those pages then it's not really our fault and there is no reason to blame the Bulbapedia staff members for that either. Once again I would like to suggest you to go through our policies. Thank you, have a nice day. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 19:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
===Sorry===
Sorry about the dumb question. Sometimes i just forget. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] 19:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== Party templates? ==

I was just wondering if I could use the party templates, before I get in trouble. I already made it but I haven't clicked "Save page" yet--I'm worried I don't have permission. Thanks! --[[User:YoshisWorld|YoshisWorld]] 01:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:You're free to use them. They aren't my personal party templates anyway. They are the ones used for the character articles. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, and while we're on the subject...how do you put shiny sprites in the party template? [[User:YoshisWorld|YoshisWorld]] 18:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)YoshisWorld
:::Where you put in its Pokedex number, just add a "_s". This loads up the shiny sprite. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 19:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== Update on Giovanni's secretary... ==
Earlier, we discussed the possibilities of Meowth referring to [[Giovanni's secretary]] by the name Matori in the Japanese version of [[BW023]]. The Chinese and English dubs of the episode have since aired - she did not have any name at all in English but was named a name that can read as "Matori" in Chinese. With this, I think the issue deserves to be revisited regarding if the page should be moved to Matori or not. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 05:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:I've already been thinking about this ever since the episode aired. And I'm still thinking of what to do. {{unsigned|Kenji-girl}}

== Drew's Flygon ==

I think it is a simalur situation with Nando, where his Roselia/Roserade took a back seat to Kricketune. Drew's Flygon has been part of very significant battles, also assisted Drew while trying to capthure Arcanine and rescued May that time Harley and TR were working together. In May's epic battle with Drew at the end of the Kanto GF, Roselia did not even feature whereas Flygon did. I'm not saying Roselia is not notable but I'am saying Flygon is as notable, maybe more, but as always it is your call.

Perrmission to create ''Drew's Flygon''? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 18:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
:Drew's Flygon was already deemed unnotable by the editorial board two years earlier. I don't think anything has changed to give it more notability.

:I don't find Flygon to be the same situation as Kricketune. Kricketune obviously surpassed Roserade as Nando's main Pokémon. The same cannot be said for Flygon. Roselia is still Drew's main and most used Pokémon. And he used it against May in their last known battle together and appeared in cameos as Roserade. Flygon has yet to be seen again.

:Sorry, but the answer is no. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
::I soppose your right, I forgot about that last battle [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 08:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== Please ==
[[Talk:EP001|I like to see your opinion about this(section Trainer, most cleary)]].--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 02:05 13 July 2011

== Abuse category ==

Hi, a month and a half ago I (rudely) made a second edit to my userpage, and was put in the abuse category. Just wondering, would edits to spaces such as the walkthroughs count for the toll of setting me free, or does it need to be the mainspace? Because I don't want to make a bunch of fixes to the walkthroughs and still not be let off. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
:I would still like an answer for this. Do walkthroughs count for getting out of abuse? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

== Anime Episode Images May Be Temporarily Unavailable ==

Hey Kenji, I just wanted to let you know that over the next few days I'm going to be restoring and buffing the quality of lots of anime episode header images. I won't be changing their content, but instead saving the images and doing things like correcting color-balance and removing compression artifacts. As a result, it seems that upon uploading said images it takes 30-60 minutes for them to be cached across all of the bulbapedia servers, in between which they may disappear on the articles. The reason why I'm going on a bit of a spree is because I've noticed a ton of episode images that are either really dark, or have bad compression artifacts (i.e image noise, random squares of the wrong color, radioactive skin, etc). Just to clarify, I won't be swapping any of the images for different ones, I'll just boost the quality on the existing ones. If an image is so low quality that it's not salvageable, I'll take a screenshot of the episode from my Pokemon DVDs. In that case, I'll make sure it's the same scene as depicted in the original image. If you'd like to see an example of my work so far, you can compare the current image with the previous one for the episode image of EP001. I've actually uploaded replacements all the way up to EP005, but EP002-EP005 are still being cached and are only viewable when referenced directly at the archives. I hope you don't mind the temporary outage, but I think it's worth it :). I intend to do as many images as possible, I may even turn this into a personal project and over the next few months fix any low-quality images for the entire Pokemon series. Thanks for your time :) [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 23:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
::Just a followup, it seem to take longer for the archives to sync with the bulbapedia servers than I originally thought. Sometimes it's only an hour, but sometimes it's around 3-5 hours. Is there any kind I can put on the page to inform potential editors that the image will be available within a few hours? The thing is, the image displays correctly when clicked, but the thumbnail doesn't generate. Is there any trick to speed up the process? [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 14:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Another follow up, ignore the last message. It appears there was just a lot of server load last night, now the images seem to appear after half an hour or so. So no worries regarding outage times. Sorry for spamming your talk page :) [[User:GetOutOfBox|GetOutOfBox]] 18:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== About message received ==
I got your message and I have been having difficulties with trying to find the voice actors for the Pokemon in the English dub. I just want to know how things normally work here, so I don't make the same errors again. I don't have any sources for credits so I don't rely on that a lot even when watching the closing credits as they don't tell me a lot about who is credited as a voice actor in that episode. Another thing is I have been trying to figure out the voice actors of some of these Pokemon and I can't find anything that would help me prove it, so unfortunately I having been guessing which the voices just by what their voice sounds like. I don't mean any harm to this website, I am only a beginner at editing pages and I still have a lot to learn, before I can edit these pages correctly
[[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] 04:25, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017
:All I asked was that you don't add "vaen=" in the templates if you don't have anything to put in there. It looks better if you don't add it until you have something to put in it.

:Also, you left this message in my talk archives. Please leave messages on my current talk page. You can get there by clicking the の in my signature. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay1 As I said on my own talk page, I am only a beginner on editing so I may make errors while I am editing. As for some Pokemon. I was going to ask you about some pages like Chili and Cress because they had "vaen=" way before I started editing those pages. They were found on the "In the anime" part on Chili's Pansear and Cress's Panpour respectively. I also have no sources that tell me who is credited as a voice actor for some of these Pokemon as a lot of these were left blank as if some uncredited in the English and Japanese versions of the anime. [[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] 04:43, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Ctc1017
:That was a mistake on my part. The "vaen=" should not be added until the voice actor is discovered. It got left behind after I removed the voice actor but not the parameter. Still even after you added it,you were warned by me and other users not to add it unless you have something to add through the edit summaries. I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm simply asking you not to do it anymore because it isn't correct. You are not being punished for it.

:And honestly, if you don't have any kind of sources and are not sure about something, it's probably best that you don't try to make guesses. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
::The thing is, we cannot add info on the basis of ''assumption''. If it's not in the credits or any other source, it's better to leave it as it is rather than assuming it. Also, the empty parameters doesn't look good on the articles. That's why Kenji asked you not to add them. Thank you, have a nice day ahead :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 05:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

== Cynthia ==
Hello I am working on a page about the anime version of Cynthia where I want detailing her actions on the show. Well, I was wondering if I can continue with this or do that would be breaking a rule of the wiki?

Thank you for your attention.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 11:50 16 July 2011
:I don't think breaking a rule per say, but I don't think the article is necessary. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pokedex Edit ==

Why was my History section on [[Pokedex]] article reverted ? That's confirmed info from Pokemon 4Ever {{unsigned|Skarm}}
:You should probably ask the user that reverted you and not me. {{u|Frozen Fennec}}. Also... I don't recall that ever being stated in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

You Know How you deleted the page Category:Episodes focusing on Infernape, I think that page could stay, but it could be Category:Episodes focusing on Ash's Infernape {{unsigned|ReaNintendo}}

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 20

2011-07-13T19:14:45Z

Blake: /* Party templates? */

Walkthrough:Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen/Part 12

2011-07-13T03:16:05Z

Blake: /* Ember Spa */

== Knot Island ==
[[Image:One Island.png|thumb|100px|right|Knot Island, the first in the island chain]]

{{sign|FRLG|header}}
{{sign|FRLG|ONE ISLAND Friends Gather at Knot Island}}
{{sign|FRLG|footer}}

After stepping off of the ferry and explaining a bit about the island, [[Bill]] introduces the player to [[Celio]], a storage system programmer who runs the [[Pokémon Net Center]]. This building acts as a traditional Poké Center, in addition to housing the Pokémon Network machine. Currently under maintenance, it is designed to link the [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]] PC storage systems, enabling the player to trade with the Hoenn-based games. Until work is complete on it, normal PC operations will be disrupted. While Bill and Celio work to upgrade the machine, they ask you a favor - take Bill's {{DL|List of key items in Generation III|meteorite}} to the Game Corner on Boon Island, and deliver it to the owner. Celio gives you the {{DL|List of key items in Generation III|Tri-Pass}}, which allows travel between the three northernmost islands in the archipelago, as well as a second page for the Town Map, detailing the different areas of Knot, Boon, and Kin Islands.

=== Treasure Beach ===

South of the ferry dock is a small islet, with only a single Trainer swimming nearby. This island's [[Treasure Beach|northern beach]] is known for the valuable items that continually wash up on the shore, like {{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}} and {{DL|Valuable item|Big Pearl}}s. These items are usually replaced by the tide by the next day, allowing Trainers to stockpile valuable items to sell for money.

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! Trainers

|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Amara|144|3|086|Seel|♀|36|None|086|Seel|♀|36|None|087|Dewgong|♀|36|None|36=アキナ|37=Akina}}
{{trainerfooter}}
|}
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|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|021|Spearow|yes|yes|Grass|31-32|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|114|Tangela|yes|yes|Grass|33-35|30%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entryfl|022|Fearow|yes|yes|Grass|36-40|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|052|Meowth|yes|yes|Grass|31|10%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|053|Persian|yes|yes|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Grass|31|5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Grass|31|5%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/div|ocean|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|073|Tentacruel|yes|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|117|Seadra|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|099|Kingler|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}

=== Kindle Road ===

{{m|Surf}} north to return to the Net Center, but this time turn to the northeast. The island's rocky eastern side is known as [[Kindle Road]]. The grassy western path holds a handful of Trainers, and is the only place that {{p|Ponyta}} and {{p|Rapidash}} are found in the wild. There is also a {{DL|Repel|Max Repel}} on the other side of the rock ledge, facing the ocean. Follow the route north to find the {{DL|Kindle Road|Ember Spa}}.

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! Trainers
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{{trainerheader|land|}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Abigail|148|3|054|Psyduck|♀|35|None|054|Psyduck|♀|36|None|055|Golduck|♀|37|None|36=ショウコ|37=Shōko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Claire|700|4|052|Meowth|♀|35|None|052|Meowth|♀|35|None|025|Pikachu|♀|35|None|035|Clefairy|♀|35|None|36=コウメ|37=Kōme}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_CrushGirl.png|Crush Girl|Tanya|912|2|106|Hitmonlee|♂|38|None|107|Hitmonchan|♂|38|None|36=ケイコ|37=Keiko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_Camper.png|Camper|Bryce|720|3|033|Nidorino|♂|36|None|020|Raticate|♂|36|None|028|Sandslash|♂|36|None|36=ノリユキ|37=Noriyuki}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Garrett|152|3|090|Shellder|♂|35|None|091|Cloyster|♂|35|None|008|Wartortle|♂|38|None|36=トモユキ|37=Tomoyuki}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_CrushKin.png|Crush Kin|Mik & Kia|1872|2|067|Machoke|♂|39|None|057|Primeape|♂|39|None|36=カズとサチ|37=Kazu & Sachi}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_BlackBelt.png|Black Belt|Hugh|888|2|066|Machop|♂|37|None|067|Machoke|♂|37|None|36=タクミ|37=Takumi}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_BlackBelt.png|Black Belt|Shea|912|2|066|Machop|♂|38|None|067|Machoke|♂|38|None|36=カツミ|37=Katsumi}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_CrushGirl.png|Crush Girl|Sharon|888|2|056|Mankey|♂|37|None|057|Primeape|♂|37|None|36=サイカ|37=Saika}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Finn|152|1|121|Starmie||38|None|36=ソウタ|37=Sōta}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Maria|148|2|117|Seadra|♀|37|None|117|Seadra|♀|37|None|36=サエコ|37=Saeko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Tommy|1260|5|118|Goldeen|♂|33|None|118|Goldeen|♂|33|None|119|Seaking|♂|35|None|119|Seaking|♂|35|None|119|Seaking|♂|35|None|36=カツオ|37=Katsuo}}
{{trainerfooter|land}}
|}
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|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|021|Spearow|yes|yes|Grass|30-32|25%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|022|Fearow|yes|yes|Grass|36|10%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|052|Meowth|yes|yes|Grass|31|10%|type2=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|053|Persian|yes|yes|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Grass|34|5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Grass|31|10%|type1=Rock|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryfl|077|Ponyta|yes|yes|Grass|31|30%|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entryfl|078|Rapidash|yes|yes|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Grass|34|5%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|5-30|95%|type1=Rock|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|5%|type1=Rock|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/div|ocean|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|099|Kingler|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|117|Seadra|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|073|Tentacruel|yes|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/footer|land}}|}
|}
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|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Repel|On the eastern sandbar|FRLG}}
{{Itlistbod|HM Fighting|From the old man in the Ember Spa|FRLG|display={{HM|06|Rock Smash}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Ether|Behind the row of three breakable boulders|FRLG}}
{{Itlistbod|Carbos|South end of the rock ledge|FRLG}}
{{Itlistfoot}}
|}

==== Ember Spa ====
[[Image:Ember Spa.png|thumb|left|Ember Spa]]

The Ember Spa is a hot spring where Trainers can gather to relax and heal their Pokémon. The old man standing between the two waterfalls claims to have made the spa by hand many years ago, with a helpful little tool. Having no need for it anymore he hands over {{HM|06|Rock Smash}}. Leave the spa, and continue north. Surf across the small channel to reach the foot of [[Mt. Ember]].

==== Mt. Ember ====
[[Image:Mt Ember Map.png|thumb|right|Mt Ember]]

Not far from the entrance, a hiker will offer to teach {{m|Explosion}} to a Trainer's Pokémon. There's nothing to the east yet, though two [[Team Rocket|Rocket]] grunts are whispering loudly, something about digging and treasure. Ignore them for now, and follow the trail to the west instead, shoving two boulders out of the way as you go. Loop around to the east, and get up the stairs past the Trainer running in circles. Follow the narrow grassy trail to the east to find a {{DL|Battle item|Dire Hit}}. Walk to the west, down the stairs, and turn to the north to reach the first entrance to the mountain's interior.

Inside the volcano, follow the winding tunnels around to the east to reemerge higher up on the mountain cliffs.

Walk up the first stairway. Beyond the boulder puzzle to the east is a {{evostone|Fire Stone}}. Down the stairway to the west is an {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}. Head up the narrow stairway to reach the summit.

Another maze of boulders litters the summit, but beyond that is the real prize: {{p|Moltres}}, the third of the legendary bird trio. Like battling any legendary Pokémon, SAVE THE GAME before starting the fight - with only one of this species, don't risk KO-ing it. After battling the bird, {{m|fly}} back to the Net Center, and take the ferry to [[Boon Island|Two Island]].

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! Trainers (Mt Ember exterior)
|-
|
{{trainerheader|cave|}}
{{trainerentry|FL_PokemonRangerF.png|Pokémon Ranger|Beth|1368|3|069|Bellsprout|♀|38|None|044|Gloom|♀|38|None|044|Gloom|♀|38|None|}}
{{trainerdiv|cave}}
{{trainerentry|FL_CrushGirl.png|Crush Girl|Jocelyn|912|2|107|Hitmonchan|♂|38|None|107|Hitmonchan|♂|38|None|}}
{{trainerdiv|cave}}
{{trainerentry|FL_PokemonRangerM.png|Pokémon Ranger|Logan|1440|2|102|Exeggcute|♂|37|None|103|Exeggutor|♂|40|None|}}
{{trainerfooter|cave}}
|}
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|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catch/header|volcano|no}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Base Area}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Grass|33|10%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|021|Spearow|no|yes|Grass|32|10%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|021|Spearow|yes|no|Grass|30-32|15%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|022|Fearow|yes|yes|Grass|38-40|25%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|126|Magmar|no|yes|Grass|38-40|5%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|077|Ponyta|yes|yes|Grass|30-36|35%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|078|Rapidash|yes|yes|Grass|39-42|5%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|066|Machop|yes|yes|Grass|35|10%|type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Summit Path}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Cave|32-40|50%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|066|Machop|yes|yes|Cave|34-38|40%|type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/entryfl|067|Machoke|yes|yes|Cave|40-42|10%|type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|65%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|30-50|35%}|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Summit}}
{{Catch/entryfl|146|Moltres|yes|yes|Special|50|Only One|type1=fire|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|5-30|95%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|5%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Ruby Path 1F}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Cave|30-34|40%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|066|Machop|yes|yes|Cave|32-36|40%|type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/entryfl|067|Machoke|yes|yes|Cave|38-40|20%|type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|5-30|95%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|5%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Ruby Path B1F}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Cave|34-42|70%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|218|Slugma|yes|yes|Cave|24-30|30%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|65%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|30-50|35%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Ruby Path B2F}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Cave|40-44|40%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|218|Slugma|yes|yes|Cave|22-48|60%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|074|Geodude|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-40|65%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryfl|075|Graveler|yes|yes|Rock Smash|30-50|35%|type1=rock|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/div|volcano|Ruby Path B3F}}
{{Catch/entryfl|218|Slugma|yes|yes|Cave|18-36|100%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|218|Slugma|yes|yes|Rock Smash|15-35|90%|type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryfl|219|Magcargo|yes|yes|Rock Smash|25-45|10%|type1=fire|type2=rock}}
{{Catch/footer|volcano}}
{{Pokémon|gen=3|game=FireRed
|ndex=146
|pokemon=Moltres
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|level=50
|ability=Pressure
|move1=Fire Spin|move1type=Fire
|move2=Agility|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Endure|move3type=Normal
|move4=Flamethrower|move4type=Fire}}
|}
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|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Dire Hit|Halfway up the mountain, on the eastern side|FRLG}}
{{Itlistbod|Fire Stone|Near the summit, behind the group of boulders|FRLG}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|Near the summit, to the west|FRLG}}
{{Itlistfoot}}
|}

== Boon Island ==
[[Image:Boon Island.png|thumb|right|Boon Island, second in the island chain]]

{{sign|FRLG|header}}
{{sign|FRLG|TWO ISLAND Boon Island for Two}}
{{sign|FRLG|footer}}

Boon Island is small island with a tiny [[Two Island (town)|village]]. The house with the purple roof is home to the Move Maniac, who offers to help a Pokémon relearn a previous move in exchange for either {{DL|Valuable item|TinyMushroom and Big Mushroom|two TinyMushrooms or one Big Mushroom}}. Next door is a [[Joyful Game Corner|small Game Corner]], but instead of slots like in Celadon's Game Corner, this one allows Trainers to compete in wireless minigames with another FireRed, LeafGreen, or Emerald version. The open-air market next to the Poké Center doesn't have much of a selection right now (offering only {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}s and {{DL|Drink|Fresh Water}}), but will have quite an assortment before long.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Boon Island Market
|-
|
{{shop|}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600|PD|Removed after Timer Balls, Repeat Balls, and Lava Cookies become available}}|{{shopitem|Fresh Water|200}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|1,200|PD|After saving Lostelle}}|{{shopitem|Soda Pop|300|PD|After saving Lostelle}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Lemonade|350|PD|After defeating the Elite Four}}|{{shopitem|Moomoo Milk|500|PD|After defeating the Elite Four}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Timer Ball|1,000|PD|After completing the Ruby and Sapphire Mission}}|{{shopitem|Repeat Ball|1,000|PD|After completing the Ruby and Sapphire Mission}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Lava Cookie|200|PD|After completing the Ruby and Sapphire Mission}}|}}
{{shopfooter}}
|}

=== Cape Brink ===

Take the stairs past the market to hike up the mountain to [[Cape Brink]]. The woman in the single house here is a move tutor, though unlike other move tutors, only the final evolutions of Kanto's {{DL|Starter Pokémon|Kanto|starter Pokémon}} can be taught here. She offers three different moves - {{m|Frenzy Plant}} for {{p|Venusaur}}, {{m|Blast Burn}} for {{p|Charizard}}, and {{m|Hydro Cannon}} for {{p|Blastoise}}.

These moves are the elemental equivalents of {{m|Hyper Beam}}. Switch your starter into the first party slot to learn the move. A few other requirements are that like any other move tutor this is for one use only. Also a Kanto starter traded from another version is not allowed to learn that specific move. Whatever your original choice was will determine which one of these three moves will be taught.

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|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|021|Spearow|yes|yes|Grass|31|20%|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|022|Fearow|yes|yes|Grass|36|10%|type2=flying}}}}
{{catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|30-32|30%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|36-38|15%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}}}
{{catch/entryfl|052|Meowth|yes|yes|Grass|31|10%}}
{{catch/entryfl|053|Persian|yes|yes|Grass|37-40|5%}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Grass|31|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|30-32|30%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|36-38|15%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Grass|31|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|15-35|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|061|Poliwhirl|yes|yes|Fish Super|20-30|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|15-35|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}

=== Lostelle ===

Step inside the Game Corner to find the owner, [[Lostelle]]'s father, in a mad panic. Evidently, she should have stopped by with lunch hours ago. As her frantic father asks you to search their native [[Kin Island|Three Island]] for her, some biker rolls in, looking for Three Island. Just like [[Team Rocket]], you haven't seen the last of him. Take the ferry to Three Island.

== Kin Island ==
[[Image:Kin Island.png|thumb|500px|right|Kin Island, third in the island chain]]

{{sign|FRLG|header}}
{{sign|FRLG|THREE ISLAND Kin Island of Family Bonding}}
{{sign|FRLG|footer}}

=== Three Isle Path ===

[[Three Isle Path]] is a small, currently incomplete tunnel that is accessible from [[Three Isle Port]]. Return here and talk to the man after defeating the {{ka|Elite Four}} to get a {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}. The completed tunnel will open to a patch of grass where a Trainer can find wild {{p|Dunsparce}}, not found anywhere else.

Step outside of the ferry port to see the "Kanto Rider Federation", a biker gang from Kanto, harassing residents of the island. The good news is that [[Bill]] and [[Celio]] have just linked the Sevii PC system with Kanto's system, meaning that all normal PC functions have been restored. Lostelle's house (with the red roof) is located near the Poké Center, but she isn't there. She must be further along the island, but that means clearing out the roadblock of bikers first. Be sure to have your team at full health, since you'll be forced to battle four bikers in a row.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Kanto Biker Federation
|-
|
{{trainerheader|road|}}
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{{trainerdiv|road}}
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{{trainerdiv|road}}
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{{trainerfooter|road|1}}
|}

With the bikers gone, speak to the residents to learn that [[Lostelle]] headed off toward [[Bond Bridge]] and the [[Berry Forest]].

=== Bond Bridge ===

Follow the winding path through the patches of tall grass, cross the bridge, and enter the [[Berry Forest]] on the small islet to the west.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Twins.png|Twins|Joy & Meg|888|2|035|Clefairy|♀|37|None|035|Clefairy|♀|37|None|36=ユイとリコ|37=Ewy & Rico}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_AromaLady.png|Aroma Lady|Violet|1008|3|001|Bulbasaur|♂|36|None|002|Ivysaur|♂|36|None|002|Ivysaur|♂|36|None||36=チヅル|37=Chidzuru}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_Tuber.png|Tuber|Alexis|136|4|120|Staryu||34|None|120|Staryu||34|None|098|Krabby|♂|34|None|098|Krabby|♂|34|None|36=ナナコ|37=Nanako}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Tisha|152|1|099|Kingler|♀|38|None|36=ユカリ|37=Yukari}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_Tuber.png|Tuber|Amira|136|3|060|Poliwag|♂|34|None|061|Poliwhirl|♂|35|None|060|Poliwag|♂|34|None|36=モモエ|37=Momoe}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL_AromaLady.png|Aroma Lady|Nikki|1036|2|069|Bellsprout|♀|37|None|070|Weepinbell|♂|37|None|36=シズエ|37=Shizue}}
{{trainerfooter|land}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|29-32|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|15%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|31|20%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|36|10%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|34|5%|type1=Bug|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|052|Meowth|yes|yes|Grass|31|10%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|053|Persian|yes|yes|Grass|37-40|5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Grass|31|5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|31|20%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|36|10%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Grass|31|5%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|073|Tentacruel|yes|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|099|Kingler|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|117|Seadra|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}

=== Berry Forest ===
[[Image:Berry Forest.png|thumb|300px|left|Kin Island's Berry Forest]]

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|forest|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|10%|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|20%|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|34-40|10%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|34-40|20%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|10%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|049|Venomoth|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Grass|34-40|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|34-40|10%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|34-40|20%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Grass|34-40|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|096|Drowzee|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|10%|type1=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|097|Hypno|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|5%|type1=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|102|Exeggcute|yes|yes|Grass|34-40|5%|type1=grass|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Surf|5-40|95%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Surf|40|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|15-35|5%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|15-35|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|119|Seaking|yes|yes|Fish Super|20-30|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|forest|Special}}
{{catch/entryfl|097|Hypno|yes|yes|Special|30|Only one|type1=psychic}}
{{catch/footer|forest}}
|}

Trek through the forest, following the trail in a big sideways-S-shape. Check every little shadow on the ground to find various {{DL|Berry|List of Berries 2|Berries}}. [[Lostelle]] is in the northwest corner of the forest, terrified of a wild {{p|Hypno}}. Either defeat or capture it, and Lostelle will give you an Iapapa Berry as thanks before the two of you wind up back in [[Two Island (town)|Two Island]]'s [[Joyful Game Corner|Game Corner]]. Talk to Lostelle's father to finally deliver [[Bill]]'s {{DL|List of key items in Generation III|meteorite}}; he gives you a {{evostone|Moon Stone}} as thanks.

By now [[Bill]] and [[Celio]] have finished their maintenance on [[Knot Island|One Island]]'s Net Center machine, so sail back there. Bill takes the ferry with you back to [[Cinnabar Island]], leaving you to hunt down your final Gym badge. Head north to reach {{rt|21|Kanto}}.

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<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Indigo Plateau ==
[[Image:HGSS Indigo Plateau.png|thumb|right|Indigo Plateau, battleground of the Elite Four]]
[[Image:Indigo Plateau Center HGSS.png|thumb|right|Inside the lobby]]
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|Indigo Plateau The Ultimate Goal for Trainers! Pokémon League HQ}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}

The [[Indigo Plateau]] is where Trainers come to challenge the Pokémon League and prove that they have what it takes to be the best. The game's almost over... well, not really. After defeating the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} and the {{pkmn|Champion}}, you'll get to travel through [[Kanto]] as well.

The {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} members aren't called "elite" for nothing, so you should train your Pokémon team to at least level 50 before challenging them. Unlike your battle with the [[Kimono Girl]]s, you'll have the chance to save your game and use your items between each battle; however, you won't have access to a Poké Center, so make sure to stock up on {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}s, {{DL|Potion|Max Potion}}s, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}s, and [[Revive]]s. The old man and his {{p|Abra}} are still here from [[Generation II]], but aren't feeling as useful anymore, since more and more Trainers have been {{m|fly}}ing home when they get discouraged, rather than {{m|teleport}}.

In order to be well-prepared for the next five battles, it is important to bring a team with a wide range of attack types:

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! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | <center><big> Opponent </big></center>
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};" | <center><big> Advantageous Attack Types </big></center>
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Will]] ({{type2|Psychic}})
| {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Electric}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Koga]] ({{type2|Poison}})
| {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Flying}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Bruno]] ({{type2|Fighting}})
| {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Flying}} {{ic|Water}} {{ic|Grass}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Karen]] ({{type2|Dark}})
| {{ic|Fighting}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Water}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Lance]] ({{type2|Dragon}})
| {{ic|Electric}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Rock}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|}

Assemble your best team, save your game, and talk to the guard to enter the first room.

=== The Elite Four ===
==== Battle 1: Will ====
[[Image:HGSS Will Room.png|thumb|right|Will's room]]

The first battle is against [[Will]] and his mind-numbing {{type2|Psychic}}s. Take him down with {{t|Ghost}}- and {{type2|Dark}} moves.

As part of the Psychic-type, all of his Pokémon can inflict a lot of damage with the {{m|Psychic}} move. You should also be prepared for {{p|Xatu}}'s {{m|Confuse Ray}} and {{p|Exeggutor}}'s {{m|Hypnosis}}. Ghost- and Dark attacks — especially moves like {{m|Shadow Ball}} and {{m|Crunch}} — are your best offense against his team. If you chose {{p|Totodile}} as your starter, a few {{m|bite}}s from {{p|Feraligatr}}'s massive jaws can whip through Will's entire team without much of a problem. Aside from that, you could also use a strong {{type2|Electric}} move (like {{m|Thunderbolt}}) to make short work of his {{p|Slowbro}} and his pair of Xatu. Powerful {{t|Fire}}- or {{type2|Bug}} attacks (like {{m|Flamethrower}} or {{m|Bug Buzz}}) are also useful against his Exeggutor and {{p|Jynx}}.

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After defeating [[Will]], heal your team, reorganize your party with your {{type2|Psychic}} in the lead, and step through the door to the second battle.

==== Battle 2: Koga ====
[[Image:HGSS_Koga_Room.png|thumb|right|Koga's room]]

The second battle is against [[Koga]], former [[Gym Leader]] of [[Kanto]]'s [[Fuchsia City]], and his group of venomous {{type2|Poison}}s. Ensure a quick victory with {{t|Fire}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves.

Koga's Pokémon have plenty of {{status|poison}}ous attacks. You can avoid unpleasant status problems by sending a {{type2|Steel}} (like {{p|Skarmory}}) into battle, since they are immune to Poison-type attacks. His {{p|Forretress}}' {{m|Toxic Spikes}} move is a real pain, because it can leave your Pokémon {{status|badly poisoned}} when they switch into battle. Wrap up this battle in a hurry by scorching Forretress with Fire attacks, its only weakness. Use Psychic attacks to mop up the rest of Koga's team.

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Once [[Koga]] is defeated, take the opportunity to heal your team and shift your {{type2|Psychic}} to the lead position. Step through the door to fight your third elite battle.

==== Battle 3: Bruno ====
[[Image:HGSS Bruno Room.png|thumb|right|Bruno's room]]

The third battle is against [[Bruno]] and his bulky {{type2|Fighting}}s. {{t|Flying}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves are your way to victory here.

Apart from {{p|Onix}}, Bruno's Pokémon are all of the Fighting-type. With their high {{stat|Attack}} power, their physical moves are sure to inflict serious damage. A Fighting-type's only weaknesses are Psychic- and Flying attacks, so use those moves to cut their health down to size. Look out for {{p|Hitmonchan}}'s elemental punches, which can cover a wide range of an opponent's types. {{m|Surf|Flood}} the battlefield with your {{type2|Water}} when his Onix shows up, and the third battle is over.

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After your battle with [[Bruno]], rest your team well. There is no single type with an advantage over the fourth member's entire team, but a {{t|Fighting}}- or a {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon should be your lead.

==== Battle 4: Karen ====
[[Image:HGSS Karen Room.png|thumb|right|Karen's room]]

The fourth battle pits you against [[Karen]] and her cunning {{type2|Dark}}s. Attack her weaknesses with {{t|Psychic}}-, {{t|Fighting}}-, and {{type2|Ice}} moves. Her lead Pokémon is immune to {{type2|Psychic}} attacks, so a {{type2|Fighting}} is preferred for your lead Pokémon.

Out of all of Karen's Pokémon, her {{p|Gengar}} is the one to really watch out for — its {{m|Spite}} move can decimate your team's [[Power points]]. Target its weaknesses to take it out before it becomes a problem. {{p|Houndoom}} is a tough foe, too — it likes to raise its {{stat|Sp. Attack}} with {{m|Nasty Plot}}, then go on the offensive with {{m|Dark Pulse}}. Hit back where it hurts by using {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Ground}} attacks.

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Once [[Karen]] has fallen, tend to your team and swap your {{type2|Electric}} into the lead.

==== Battle 5: The Champion ====
[[File:HGSS Champion Room.png|thumb|right|The Champion's room]]

With the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} behind you, there is only one person left standing between you and the [[Hall of Fame]]: [[Lance]], master of {{t|dragon}}s, and {{pkmn|Champion}} of the [[Pokémon League]]! This will be your toughest battle yet, but find a way to slay his dragons, and you'll be recognized as the most powerful Trainer in all of [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]]!

Lance opens with his {{p|Gyarados}}, which may as well be a lightning rod for a strong {{m|Thunderbolt}}. As a way to show his mastery of the Dragon-type, Lance has raised not one, not two, but three {{p|Dragonite}}. Two are on level 49, but his level 50 Dragonite can do major damage with {{m|Outrage}}, and its {{m|Fire Blast}} will cause you a lot of pain, too. His dragon trio all know the {{m|Hyper Beam}} move, and each has one of the strongest elemental attacks ({{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Thunder}}, and {{m|Fire Blast}}) as well. Avoid sending a Water-type to fight his {{p|Aerodactyl}}, due to its {{m|Thunder Fang}} move — use a Water-type attack instead. All six of his Pokémon are weak to {{type2|Rock}} attacks, so moves like {{m|Rock Slide}} are effective. If all else fails, pummel his team with {{type2|Ice}} attacks, and his draconian army will be nothing but a memory.

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After finally defeating the [[Pokémon League]], [[Lance]] compliments you, saying how much you've grown with your Pokémon. However, he is interrupted by [[DJ Mary]], who is looking for an interview with the newly-crowned [[Pokémon Champion]]. She's a little late to see the battle, but it's not her fault - [[Professor Oak]] isn't as quick as he used to be. He applauds your domination of the Pokémon League, and tells you that your Pokémon persevered because they believed in you as a Trainer. Mary is quick to try for that interview, but Lance steps in to take you away from the noise, much to Mary's dismay.

Lance takes you to the [[Hall of Fame]] room, and tells you that it has been a long time since he was last here. He explains the machine in front of you, saying that this is where Pokémon League Champions are honored, along with their courageous Pokémon. He activates the machine, registering you and your partners as Hall of Fame members. 
As the credits roll, you'll get to see all the major characters of [[Johto]], including {{prof|Elm}}, the [[Gym Leader]]s, and the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} in a quick cutscene. "The End" appears on the screen and the game saves, but that's not truly the end...

=== Later... ===

Once you've defeated {{ga|Silver}} inside [[Mt. Moon]], and battled alongside him against Lance and [[Clair]] in [[Dragon's Den]], your rival will appear in the lobby every Monday and Wednesday, waiting to challenge you to a rematch. His Pokémon are at their highest levels, so prepare for a tough fight.

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!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
!{{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
!{{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
|{{Party
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|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
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|type2=Poison
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|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=male
|level=58
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}

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|game=HeartGold
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|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
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|type1=Psychic
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|move3=Focus Blast|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
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|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
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|gender=male
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|move3=Will-O-Wisp|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Status
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
}}

|{{Party
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|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
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|pokemon6={{Pokémon
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|{{Party
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}}
|}

After winning the eight badges of Kanto and earning {{prof|Oak}}'s permission to visit [[Mt. Silver]], the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}}'s teams will be upgraded to pose an even more difficult challenge. The full details can be found [[Appendix:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough/Elite Four rematches|here]].

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[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 15

2011-07-13T02:59:03Z

Blake: /* Battle 4: Karen */ fixes

<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Indigo Plateau ==
[[Image:HGSS Indigo Plateau.png|thumb|right|Indigo Plateau, battleground of the Elite Four]]
[[Image:Indigo Plateau Center HGSS.png|thumb|right|Inside the lobby]]
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|Indigo Plateau The Ultimate Goal for Trainers! Pokémon League HQ}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}

The [[Indigo Plateau]] is where Trainers come to challenge the Pokémon League and prove that they have what it takes to be the best. The game's almost over... well, not really. After defeating the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} and the {{pkmn|Champion}}, you'll get to travel through [[Kanto]] as well.

The {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} members aren't called "elite" for nothing, so you should train your Pokémon team to at least level 50 before challenging them. Unlike your battle with the [[Kimono Girl]]s, you'll have the chance to save your game and use your items between each battle; however, you won't have access to a Poké Center, so make sure to stock up on {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}s, {{DL|Potion|Max Potion}}s, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}s, and [[Revive]]s. The old man and his {{p|Abra}} are still here from [[Generation II]], but aren't feeling as useful anymore, since more and more Trainers have been {{m|fly}}ing home when they get discouraged, rather than {{m|teleport}}.

In order to be well-prepared for the next five battles, it is important to bring a team with a wide range of attack types:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color dark}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color}}"
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | <center><big> Opponent </big></center>
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};" | <center><big> Advantageous Attack Types </big></center>
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Will]] ({{type2|Psychic}})
| {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Electric}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Koga]] ({{type2|Poison}})
| {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Flying}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Bruno]] ({{type2|Fighting}})
| {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Flying}} {{ic|Water}} {{ic|Grass}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Karen]] ({{type2|Dark}})
| {{ic|Fighting}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Water}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Lance]] ({{type2|Dragon}})
| {{ic|Electric}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Rock}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|}

Assemble your best team, save your game, and talk to the guard to enter the first room.

=== The Elite Four ===
==== Battle 1: Will ====
[[Image:HGSS Will Room.png|thumb|right|Will's room]]

The first battle is against [[Will]] and his mind-numbing {{type2|Psychic}}s. Take him down with {{t|Ghost}}- and {{type2|Dark}} moves.

As part of the Psychic-type, all of his Pokémon can inflict a lot of damage with the {{m|Psychic}} move. You should also be prepared for {{p|Xatu}}'s {{m|Confuse Ray}} and {{p|Exeggutor}}'s {{m|Hypnosis}}. Ghost- and Dark attacks — especially moves like {{m|Shadow Ball}} and {{m|Crunch}} — are your best offense against his team. If you chose {{p|Totodile}} as your starter, a few {{m|bite}}s from {{p|Feraligatr}}'s massive jaws can whip through Will's entire team without much of a problem. Aside from that, you could also use a strong {{type2|Electric}} move (like {{m|Thunderbolt}}) to make short work of his {{p|Slowbro}} and his pair of Xatu. Powerful {{t|Fire}}- or {{type2|Bug}} attacks (like {{m|Flamethrower}} or {{m|Bug Buzz}}) are also useful against his Exeggutor and {{p|Jynx}}.

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After defeating [[Will]], heal your team, reorganize your party with your {{type2|Psychic}} in the lead, and step through the door to the second battle.

==== Battle 2: Koga ====
[[Image:HGSS_Koga_Room.png|thumb|right|Koga's room]]

The second battle is against [[Koga]], former [[Gym Leader]] of [[Kanto]]'s [[Fuchsia City]], and his group of venomous {{type2|Poison}}s. Ensure a quick victory with {{t|Fire}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves.

Koga's Pokémon have plenty of {{status|poison}}ous attacks. You can avoid unpleasant status problems by sending a {{type2|Steel}} (like {{p|Skarmory}}) into battle, since they are immune to Poison-type attacks. His {{p|Forretress}}' {{m|Toxic Spikes}} move is a real pain, because it can leave your Pokémon {{status|badly poisoned}} when they switch into battle. Wrap up this battle in a hurry by scorching Forretress with Fire attacks, its only weakness. Use Psychic attacks to mop up the rest of Koga's team.

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|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Poison Fang|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Physical}}}}

Once [[Koga]] is defeated, take the opportunity to heal your team and shift your {{type2|Psychic}} to the lead position. Step through the door to fight your third elite battle.

==== Battle 3: Bruno ====
[[Image:HGSS Bruno Room.png|thumb|right|Bruno's room]]

The third battle is against [[Bruno]] and his bulky {{type2|Fighting}}s. {{t|Flying}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves are your way to victory here.

Apart from {{p|Onix}}, Bruno's Pokémon are all of the Fighting-type. With their high {{stat|Attack}} power, their physical moves are sure to inflict serious damage. A Fighting-type's only weaknesses are Psychic- and Flying attacks, so use those moves to cut their health down to size. Look out for {{p|Hitmonchan}}'s elemental punches, which can cover a wide range of an opponent's types. {{m|Surf|Flood}} the battlefield with your {{type2|Water}} when his Onix shows up, and the third battle is over.

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}}|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Machamp
|ndex=068
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After your battle with [[Bruno]], rest your team well. There is no single type with an advantage over the fourth member's entire team, but a {{t|Fighting}}- or a {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon should be your lead.

==== Battle 4: Karen ====
[[Image:HGSS Karen Room.png|thumb|right|Karen's room]]

The fourth battle pits you against [[Karen]] and her cunning {{type2|Dark}}s. Attack her weaknesses with {{t|Psychic}}-, {{t|Fighting}}-, and {{type2|Ice}} moves. Her lead Pokémon is immune to {{type2|Psychic}} attacks, so a {{type2|Fighting}} is preferred for your lead Pokémon.

Out of all of Karen's Pokémon, her {{p|Gengar}} is the one to really watch out for — its {{m|Spite}} move can decimate your team's [[Power points]]. Target its weaknesses to take it out before it becomes a problem. {{p|Houndoom}} is a tough foe, too — it likes to raise its {{stat|Sp. Attack}} with {{m|Nasty Plot}}, then go on the offensive with {{m|Dark Pulse}}. Hit back where it hurts by using {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Ground}} attacks.

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|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=094|pokemon=Gengar
|level=45|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|gender=female|ability=Levitate
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|move3=Spite|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
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|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=229|pokemon=Houndoom
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|move1=Nasty Plot|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Status
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|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}}}

Once [[Karen]] has fallen, tend to your team and swap your {{type2|Electric}} into the lead.

==== Battle 5: The Champion ====
[[File:HGSS Champion Room.png|thumb|right|The Champion's room]]

With the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} behind you, there is only one person left standing between you and the [[Hall of Fame]]: [[Lance]], master of {{t|dragon}}s, and {{pkmn|Champion}} of the [[Pokémon League]]! This will be your toughest battle yet, but find a way to slay his dragons, and you'll be recognized as the most powerful Trainer in all of [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]]!

Lance opens with his {{p|Gyarados}}, which may as well be a lightning rod for a strong {{m|Thunderbolt}}. As a way to show his mastery of the Dragon-type, Lance has raised not one, not two, but three {{p|Dragonite}}. Two are on level 49, but his level 50 Dragonite can do major damage with {{m|Outrage}}, and its {{m|Fire Blast}} will cause you a lot of pain, too. His dragon trio all know the {{m|Hyper Beam}} move, and each has one of the strongest elemental attacks ({{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Thunder}}, and {{m|Fire Blast}}) as well. Avoid sending a Water-type to fight his {{p|Aerodactyl}}, due to its {{m|Thunder Fang}} move — use a Water-type attack instead. All six of his Pokémon are weak to {{type2|Rock}} attacks, so moves like {{m|Rock Slide}} are effective. If all else fails, pummel his team with {{type2|Ice}} attacks, and his draconian army will be nothing but a memory.

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}}

After finally defeating the [[Pokémon League]], [[Lance]] compliments you, saying how much you've grown with your Pokémon. However, he is interrupted by [[DJ Mary]], who is looking for an interview with the newly-crowned [[Pokémon Champion]]. She's a little late to see the battle, but it's not her fault - [[Professor Oak]] isn't as quick as he used to be. He applauds your domination of the Pokémon League, and tells you that your Pokémon persevered because they believed in you as a Trainer. Mary is quick to try for that interview, but Lance steps in to take you away from the noise, much to Mary's dismay.

Lance takes you to the [[Hall of Fame]] room, and tells you that it has been a long time since he was last here. He explains the machine in front of you, saying that this is where Pokémon League Champions are honored, along with their courageous Pokémon. He activates the machine, registering you and your partners as Hall of Fame members. 
As the credits roll, you'll get to see all the major characters of [[Johto]], including {{prof|Elm}}, the [[Gym Leader]]s, and the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} in a quick cutscene. "The End" appears on the screen and the game saves, but that's not truly the end...

=== Later... ===

Once you've defeated {{ga|Silver}} inside [[Mt. Moon]], and battled alongside him against Lance and [[Clair]] in [[Dragon's Den]], your rival will appear in the lobby every Monday and Wednesday, waiting to challenge you to a rematch. His Pokémon are at their highest levels, so prepare for a tough fight.

{| align="center"
!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
!{{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
!{{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
|{{Party
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|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
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|pokemon=6

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|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
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|type2=Steel
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|move2=Magnet Bomb|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Mirror Shot|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Dark Pulse|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
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|pokemon4={{Pokémon
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|game=HeartGold
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=male
|level=58
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
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|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}

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|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=065 m
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Status
|move3=Focus Blast|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
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|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=157
|pokemon=Typhlosion
|gender=male
|level=60
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Will-O-Wisp|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Status
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
}}

|{{Party
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After winning the eight badges of Kanto and earning {{prof|Oak}}'s permission to visit [[Mt. Silver]], the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}}'s teams will be upgraded to pose an even more difficult challenge. The full details can be found [[Appendix:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough/Elite Four rematches|here]].

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[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 15

2011-07-13T02:56:48Z

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<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Indigo Plateau ==
[[Image:HGSS Indigo Plateau.png|thumb|right|Indigo Plateau, battleground of the Elite Four]]
[[Image:Indigo Plateau Center HGSS.png|thumb|right|Inside the lobby]]
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|Indigo Plateau The Ultimate Goal for Trainers! Pokémon League HQ}}
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The [[Indigo Plateau]] is where Trainers come to challenge the Pokémon League and prove that they have what it takes to be the best. The game's almost over... well, not really. After defeating the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} and the {{pkmn|Champion}}, you'll get to travel through [[Kanto]] as well.

The {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} members aren't called "elite" for nothing, so you should train your Pokémon team to at least level 50 before challenging them. Unlike your battle with the [[Kimono Girl]]s, you'll have the chance to save your game and use your items between each battle; however, you won't have access to a Poké Center, so make sure to stock up on {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}s, {{DL|Potion|Max Potion}}s, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}s, and [[Revive]]s. The old man and his {{p|Abra}} are still here from [[Generation II]], but aren't feeling as useful anymore, since more and more Trainers have been {{m|fly}}ing home when they get discouraged, rather than {{m|teleport}}.

In order to be well-prepared for the next five battles, it is important to bring a team with a wide range of attack types:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color dark}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color}}"
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | <center><big> Opponent </big></center>
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};" | <center><big> Advantageous Attack Types </big></center>
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Will]] ({{type2|Psychic}})
| {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Electric}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Koga]] ({{type2|Poison}})
| {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Flying}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Bruno]] ({{type2|Fighting}})
| {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Flying}} {{ic|Water}} {{ic|Grass}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Karen]] ({{type2|Dark}})
| {{ic|Fighting}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Water}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Lance]] ({{type2|Dragon}})
| {{ic|Electric}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Rock}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|}

Assemble your best team, save your game, and talk to the guard to enter the first room.

=== The Elite Four ===
==== Battle 1: Will ====
[[Image:HGSS Will Room.png|thumb|right|Will's room]]

The first battle is against [[Will]] and his mind-numbing {{type2|Psychic}}s. Take him down with {{t|Ghost}}- and {{type2|Dark}} moves.

As part of the Psychic-type, all of his Pokémon can inflict a lot of damage with the {{m|Psychic}} move. You should also be prepared for {{p|Xatu}}'s {{m|Confuse Ray}} and {{p|Exeggutor}}'s {{m|Hypnosis}}. Ghost- and Dark attacks — especially moves like {{m|Shadow Ball}} and {{m|Crunch}} — are your best offense against his team. If you chose {{p|Totodile}} as your starter, a few {{m|bite}}s from {{p|Feraligatr}}'s massive jaws can whip through Will's entire team without much of a problem. Aside from that, you could also use a strong {{type2|Electric}} move (like {{m|Thunderbolt}}) to make short work of his {{p|Slowbro}} and his pair of Xatu. Powerful {{t|Fire}}- or {{type2|Bug}} attacks (like {{m|Flamethrower}} or {{m|Bug Buzz}}) are also useful against his Exeggutor and {{p|Jynx}}.

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After defeating [[Will]], heal your team, reorganize your party with your {{type2|Psychic}} in the lead, and step through the door to the second battle.

==== Battle 2: Koga ====
[[Image:HGSS_Koga_Room.png|thumb|right|Koga's room]]

The second battle is against [[Koga]], former [[Gym Leader]] of [[Kanto]]'s [[Fuchsia City]], and his group of venomous {{type2|Poison}}s. Ensure a quick victory with {{t|Fire}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves.

Koga's Pokémon have plenty of {{status|poison}}ous attacks. You can avoid unpleasant status problems by sending a {{type2|Steel}} (like {{p|Skarmory}}) into battle, since they are immune to Poison-type attacks. His {{p|Forretress}}' {{m|Toxic Spikes}} move is a real pain, because it can leave your Pokémon {{status|badly poisoned}} when they switch into battle. Wrap up this battle in a hurry by scorching Forretress with Fire attacks, its only weakness. Use Psychic attacks to mop up the rest of Koga's team.

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Once [[Koga]] is defeated, take the opportunity to heal your team and shift your {{type2|Psychic}} to the lead position. Step through the door to fight your third elite battle.

==== Battle 3: Bruno ====
[[Image:HGSS Bruno Room.png|thumb|right|Bruno's room]]

The third battle is against [[Bruno]] and his bulky {{type2|Fighting}}s. {{t|Flying}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves are your way to victory here.

Apart from {{p|Onix}}, Bruno's Pokémon are all of the Fighting-type. With their high {{stat|Attack}} power, their physical moves are sure to inflict serious damage. A Fighting-type's only weaknesses are Psychic- and Flying attacks, so use those moves to cut their health down to size. Look out for {{p|Hitmonchan}}'s elemental punches, which can cover a wide range of an opponent's types. {{m|Surf|Flood}} the battlefield with your {{type2|Water}} when his Onix shows up, and the third battle is over.

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After your battle with [[Bruno]], rest your team well. There is no single type with an advantage over the fourth member's entire team, but a {{t|Fighting}}- or a {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon should be your lead.

==== Battle 4: Karen ====
[[Image:HGSS Karen Room.png|thumb|right|Karen's room]]

The fourth battle pits you against [[Karen]] and her cunning {{type2|Dark}}s. Attack her weaknesses with {{t|Psychic}}-, {{t|Fighting}}-, and {{type2|Ice}} moves. Her lead Pokémon is immune to {{type2|Psychic}} attacks, so a {{type2|Fighting}} is preferred for your lead Pokémon.

Out of all of Karen's Pokémon, her {{p|Gengar}} is the one to really watch out for — its {{m|Spite}} move can decimate your team's [[Power points]]. Target its weaknesses to take it out before it becomes a problem. {{p|Houndoom}} is a tough foe, too — it likes to raise its {{stat|Sp. Attack}} with {{m|Nasty Plot}}, then go on the offensive with {{m|Dark Pulse}}. Hit back where it hurts by using {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Ground}} attacks.

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|move4=Lick|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}

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|level=47|type1=Dark|type2=Fire|gender=female|spritegender=female|ability=Flash Fire|held=Sitrus Berry
|move1=Nasty Plot|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dark Pulse|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Special
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}}}

Once [[Karen]] has fallen, tend to your team and swap your {{type2|Electric}} into the lead.

==== Battle 5: The Champion ====
[[File:HGSS Champion Room.png|thumb|right|The Champion's room]]

With the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} behind you, there is only one person left standing between you and the [[Hall of Fame]]: [[Lance]], master of {{t|dragon}}s, and {{pkmn|Champion}} of the [[Pokémon League]]! This will be your toughest battle yet, but find a way to slay his dragons, and you'll be recognized as the most powerful Trainer in all of [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]]!

Lance opens with his {{p|Gyarados}}, which may as well be a lightning rod for a strong {{m|Thunderbolt}}. As a way to show his mastery of the Dragon-type, Lance has raised not one, not two, but three {{p|Dragonite}}. Two are on level 49, but his level 50 Dragonite can do major damage with {{m|Outrage}}, and its {{m|Fire Blast}} will cause you a lot of pain, too. His dragon trio all know the {{m|Hyper Beam}} move, and each has one of the strongest elemental attacks ({{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Thunder}}, and {{m|Fire Blast}}) as well. Avoid sending a Water-type to fight his {{p|Aerodactyl}}, due to its {{m|Thunder Fang}} move — use a Water-type attack instead. All six of his Pokémon are weak to {{type2|Rock}} attacks, so moves like {{m|Rock Slide}} are effective. If all else fails, pummel his team with {{type2|Ice}} attacks, and his draconian army will be nothing but a memory.

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|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
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|prize={{pdollar}}10000
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|ability=Inner Focus
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|move1cat=Status
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|move2cat=Special
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|move3type=Electric
|move3cat=Special
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|move4cat=Physical
}}|pokemon3={{Pokémon/4
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|move4cat=Physical
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|move4type=Dark
|move4cat=Physical
}}|pokemon5={{Pokémon/4
|pokemon=Charizard
|ndex=006
|level=48
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|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Physical
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|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Claw
|move4type=Dragon
|move4cat=Physical
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|pokemon=Dragonite
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|level=50
|gender=male
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|type2=Flying
|held=Sitrus Berry
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|move1cat=Status
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|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Blast
|move3type=Fire
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Hyper Beam
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Special
}}
}}

After finally defeating the [[Pokémon League]], [[Lance]] compliments you, saying how much you've grown with your Pokémon. However, he is interrupted by [[DJ Mary]], who is looking for an interview with the newly-crowned [[Pokémon Champion]]. She's a little late to see the battle, but it's not her fault - [[Professor Oak]] isn't as quick as he used to be. He applauds your domination of the Pokémon League, and tells you that your Pokémon persevered because they believed in you as a Trainer. Mary is quick to try for that interview, but Lance steps in to take you away from the noise, much to Mary's dismay.

Lance takes you to the [[Hall of Fame]] room, and tells you that it has been a long time since he was last here. He explains the machine in front of you, saying that this is where Pokémon League Champions are honored, along with their courageous Pokémon. He activates the machine, registering you and your partners as Hall of Fame members. 
As the credits roll, you'll get to see all the major characters of [[Johto]], including {{prof|Elm}}, the [[Gym Leader]]s, and the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} in a quick cutscene. "The End" appears on the screen and the game saves, but that's not truly the end...

=== Later... ===

Once you've defeated {{ga|Silver}} inside [[Mt. Moon]], and battled alongside him against Lance and [[Clair]] in [[Dragon's Den]], your rival will appear in the lobby every Monday and Wednesday, waiting to challenge you to a rematch. His Pokémon are at their highest levels, so prepare for a tough fight.

{| align="center"
!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
!{{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
!{{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
|{{Party
|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}3840
|class=Rival
|name=Silver
|game=HGSS
|location=Indigo Plateau
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=215 m
|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male
|level=55
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Shadow Claw|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level=55
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Discharge|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Magnet Bomb|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Mirror Shot|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Dark Pulse|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=male
|level=58
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=065 m
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Status
|move3=Focus Blast|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=157
|pokemon=Typhlosion
|gender=male
|level=60
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Rollout|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Will-O-Wisp|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Status
|move4=Swift|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
}}

|{{Party
|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}3840
|class=Rival
|name=Silver
|game=HGSS
|location=Indigo Plateau
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=215 m
|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male
|level=55
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Shadow Claw|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level=55
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|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Discharge|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Magnet Bomb|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Mirror Shot|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dark Pulse|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Special
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Special
|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=male
|level=58
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=065 m
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Status
|move3=Focus Blast|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=160
|pokemon=Feraligatr
|gender=male
|level=60
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Ice Fang|move1type=Ice|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aqua Tail|move3type=Water|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Crunch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

|{{Party
|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}3840
|class=Rival
|name=Silver
|game=HGSS
|location=Indigo Plateau
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=215 m
|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male
|level=55
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Shadow Claw|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level=55
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Discharge|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|move2=Magnet Bomb|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Mirror Shot|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Dark Pulse|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Special
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=male
|level=58
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move3cat=Status
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=065 m
|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Reflect|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Status
|move3=Focus Blast|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=154 m
|pokemon=Meganium
|gender=male
|level=60
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Synthesis|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Petal Dance|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}
}}
|}

After winning the eight badges of Kanto and earning {{prof|Oak}}'s permission to visit [[Mt. Silver]], the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}}'s teams will be upgraded to pose an even more difficult challenge. The full details can be found [[Appendix:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough/Elite Four rematches|here]].

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[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 15

2011-07-13T02:53:25Z

Blake: /* Battle 2: Koga */ fix

<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Indigo Plateau ==
[[Image:HGSS Indigo Plateau.png|thumb|right|Indigo Plateau, battleground of the Elite Four]]
[[Image:Indigo Plateau Center HGSS.png|thumb|right|Inside the lobby]]
{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|Indigo Plateau The Ultimate Goal for Trainers! Pokémon League HQ}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}

The [[Indigo Plateau]] is where Trainers come to challenge the Pokémon League and prove that they have what it takes to be the best. The game's almost over... well, not really. After defeating the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} and the {{pkmn|Champion}}, you'll get to travel through [[Kanto]] as well.

The {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} members aren't called "elite" for nothing, so you should train your Pokémon team to at least level 50 before challenging them. Unlike your battle with the [[Kimono Girl]]s, you'll have the chance to save your game and use your items between each battle; however, you won't have access to a Poké Center, so make sure to stock up on {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}s, {{DL|Potion|Max Potion}}s, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}s, and [[Revive]]s. The old man and his {{p|Abra}} are still here from [[Generation II]], but aren't feeling as useful anymore, since more and more Trainers have been {{m|fly}}ing home when they get discouraged, rather than {{m|teleport}}.

In order to be well-prepared for the next five battles, it is important to bring a team with a wide range of attack types:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color dark}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color}}"
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | <center><big> Opponent </big></center>
! width="30%" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};" | <center><big> Advantageous Attack Types </big></center>
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Will]] ({{type2|Psychic}})
| {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Electric}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Koga]] ({{type2|Poison}})
| {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Flying}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Bruno]] ({{type2|Fighting}})
| {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Flying}} {{ic|Water}} {{ic|Grass}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Karen]] ({{type2|Dark}})
| {{ic|Fighting}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Water}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF"
| [[Lance]] ({{type2|Dragon}})
| {{ic|Electric}} {{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Rock}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|}

Assemble your best team, save your game, and talk to the guard to enter the first room.

=== The Elite Four ===
==== Battle 1: Will ====
[[Image:HGSS Will Room.png|thumb|right|Will's room]]

The first battle is against [[Will]] and his mind-numbing {{type2|Psychic}}s. Take him down with {{t|Ghost}}- and {{type2|Dark}} moves.

As part of the Psychic-type, all of his Pokémon can inflict a lot of damage with the {{m|Psychic}} move. You should also be prepared for {{p|Xatu}}'s {{m|Confuse Ray}} and {{p|Exeggutor}}'s {{m|Hypnosis}}. Ghost- and Dark attacks — especially moves like {{m|Shadow Ball}} and {{m|Crunch}} — are your best offense against his team. If you chose {{p|Totodile}} as your starter, a few {{m|bite}}s from {{p|Feraligatr}}'s massive jaws can whip through Will's entire team without much of a problem. Aside from that, you could also use a strong {{type2|Electric}} move (like {{m|Thunderbolt}}) to make short work of his {{p|Slowbro}} and his pair of Xatu. Powerful {{t|Fire}}- or {{type2|Bug}} attacks (like {{m|Flamethrower}} or {{m|Bug Buzz}}) are also useful against his Exeggutor and {{p|Jynx}}.

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|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|sprite= WillHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}5040
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|name=Will
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|location=Indigo Plateau
|pokemon=5

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|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Jynx
|ndex=124
|level=41
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Ice
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Oblivious
|move4=Psychic
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Special
|move1=Lovely Kiss
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move3=Ice Punch
|move3type=Ice
|move3cat=Physical
|move2=DoubleSlap
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Slowbro
|ndex=080
|level=41
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|held=Unknown
|ability=Own Tempo
|move1=Curse
|move1type=???
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Amnesia
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Special
}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Exeggutor
|ndex=103
|level=41
|ability=Chlorophyll
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Grass
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|move1=Reflect
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Status
|move4=Psychic
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Special
|move3=Egg Bomb
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move2=Hypnosis
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Xatu
|ndex=178
|level=42
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Flying
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Early Bird
|move4=Psychic
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Special
|move1=Confuse Ray
|move1cat=Status
|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Ominous Wind
|move2type=Ghost
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Aerial Ace
|move3type=Flying
|move3cat=Physical
}}
}}

After defeating [[Will]], heal your team, reorganize your party with your {{type2|Psychic}} in the lead, and step through the door to the second battle.

==== Battle 2: Koga ====
[[Image:HGSS_Koga_Room.png|thumb|right|Koga's room]]

The second battle is against [[Koga]], former [[Gym Leader]] of [[Kanto]]'s [[Fuchsia City]], and his group of venomous {{type2|Poison}}s. Ensure a quick victory with {{t|Fire}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves.

Koga's Pokémon have plenty of {{status|poison}}ous attacks. You can avoid unpleasant status problems by sending a {{type2|Steel}} (like {{p|Skarmory}}) into battle, since they are immune to Poison-type attacks. His {{p|Forretress}}' {{m|Toxic Spikes}} move is a real pain, because it can leave your Pokémon {{status|badly poisoned}} when they switch into battle. Wrap up this battle in a hurry by scorching Forretress with Fire attacks, its only weakness. Use Psychic attacks to mop up the rest of Koga's team.

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Once [[Koga]] is defeated, take the opportunity to heal your team and shift your {{type2|Psychic}} to the lead position. Step through the door to fight your third elite battle.

==== Battle 3: Bruno ====
[[Image:HGSS Bruno Room.png|thumb|right|Bruno's room]]

The third battle is against [[Bruno]] and his bulky {{type2|Fighting}}s. {{t|Flying}}- and {{type2|Psychic}} moves are your way to victory here.

Apart from {{p|Onix}}, Bruno's Pokémon are all of the Fighting-type. With their high {{stat|Attack}} power, their physical moves are sure to inflict serious damage. A Fighting-type's only weaknesses are Psychic- and Flying attacks, so use those moves to cut their health down to size. Look out for {{p|Hitmonchan}}'s elemental punches, which can cover a wide range of an opponent's types. {{m|Surf|Flood}} the battlefield with your {{type2|Water}} when his Onix shows up, and the third battle is over.

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After your battle with [[Bruno]], rest your team well. There is no single type with an advantage over the fourth member's entire team, but a {{t|Fighting}}- or a {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon should be your lead.

==== Battle 4: Karen ====
[[Image:HGSS Karen Room.png|thumb|right|Karen's room]]

The fourth battle pits you against [[Karen]] and her cunning {{type2|Dark}}s. Attack her weaknesses with {{t|Psychic}}-, {{t|Fighting}}-, and {{type2|Ice}} moves. Her lead Pokémon is immune to {{type2|Psychic}} attacks, so a {{type2|Fighting}} is preferred for your lead Pokémon.

Out of all of Karen's Pokémon, her {{p|Gengar}} is the one to really watch out for — its {{m|Spite}} move can decimate your team's [[Power points]]. Target its weaknesses to take it out before it becomes a problem. {{p|Houndoom}} is a tough foe, too — it likes to raise its {{stat|Sp. Attack}} with {{m|Nasty Plot}}, then go on the offensive with {{m|Dark Pulse}}. Hit back where it hurts by using {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Ground}} attacks.

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Once [[Karen]] has fallen, tend to your team and swap your {{type2|Electric}} into the lead.

==== Battle 5: The Champion ====
[[File:HGSS Champion Room.png|thumb|right|The Champion's room]]

With the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} behind you, there is only one person left standing between you and the [[Hall of Fame]]: [[Lance]], master of {{t|dragon}}s, and {{pkmn|Champion}} of the [[Pokémon League]]! This will be your toughest battle yet, but find a way to slay his dragons, and you'll be recognized as the most powerful Trainer in all of [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]]!

Lance opens with his {{p|Gyarados}}, which may as well be a lightning rod for a strong {{m|Thunderbolt}}. As a way to show his mastery of the Dragon-type, Lance has raised not one, not two, but three {{p|Dragonite}}. Two are on level 49, but his level 50 Dragonite can do major damage with {{m|Outrage}}, and its {{m|Fire Blast}} will cause you a lot of pain, too. His dragon trio all know the {{m|Hyper Beam}} move, and each has one of the strongest elemental attacks ({{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Thunder}}, and {{m|Fire Blast}}) as well. Avoid sending a Water-type to fight his {{p|Aerodactyl}}, due to its {{m|Thunder Fang}} move — use a Water-type attack instead. All six of his Pokémon are weak to {{type2|Rock}} attacks, so moves like {{m|Rock Slide}} are effective. If all else fails, pummel his team with {{type2|Ice}} attacks, and his draconian army will be nothing but a memory.

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After finally defeating the [[Pokémon League]], [[Lance]] compliments you, saying how much you've grown with your Pokémon. However, he is interrupted by [[DJ Mary]], who is looking for an interview with the newly-crowned [[Pokémon Champion]]. She's a little late to see the battle, but it's not her fault - [[Professor Oak]] isn't as quick as he used to be. He applauds your domination of the Pokémon League, and tells you that your Pokémon persevered because they believed in you as a Trainer. Mary is quick to try for that interview, but Lance steps in to take you away from the noise, much to Mary's dismay.

Lance takes you to the [[Hall of Fame]] room, and tells you that it has been a long time since he was last here. He explains the machine in front of you, saying that this is where Pokémon League Champions are honored, along with their courageous Pokémon. He activates the machine, registering you and your partners as Hall of Fame members. 
As the credits roll, you'll get to see all the major characters of [[Johto]], including {{prof|Elm}}, the [[Gym Leader]]s, and the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}} in a quick cutscene. "The End" appears on the screen and the game saves, but that's not truly the end...

=== Later... ===

Once you've defeated {{ga|Silver}} inside [[Mt. Moon]], and battled alongside him against Lance and [[Clair]] in [[Dragon's Den]], your rival will appear in the lobby every Monday and Wednesday, waiting to challenge you to a rematch. His Pokémon are at their highest levels, so prepare for a tough fight.

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!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
!{{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
!{{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
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|{{Party
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|{{Party
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After winning the eight badges of Kanto and earning {{prof|Oak}}'s permission to visit [[Mt. Silver]], the {{DL|Elite Four|Generation II and IV|Elite Four}}'s teams will be upgraded to pose an even more difficult challenge. The full details can be found [[Appendix:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough/Elite Four rematches|here]].

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[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 11

2011-07-13T02:47:16Z

Blake: fix names

<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Radio Tower ==
[[Image:HGSS Goldenrod Radio Tower.png|frame|right|Goldenrod Radio Tower]]

When you get back to {{ci|Goldenrod}}, you'll notice that [[Team Rocket]] grunts are blocking off many of the buildings, including the Gym and the Flower Shop, as well as the Happiness Rater and the Bike Shop. Luckily, the Poké Center and Dept Store are still accessible. Get over to the [[Goldenrod Radio Tower|Radio Tower]] when your team is ready. A single Rocket is blocking access to the upper levels of the tower, so trek down to the now-deserted Goldenrod Underground and talk to the only guy around, another Rocket, who gives you a Rocket uniform to change into. Head back up into the tower.

The grunt will move out of the way, but [[Silver (game)|your rival]] will show up and expose you, forcing the Rocket to attack you.

{{Trainerheader|road}}
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{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}

The defeated grunt runs upstairs to alert the other Rockets, and your rival, after blowing your disguise, is perfectly happy running off, muttering about defeating [[Lance|that Dragon Tamer]]. It seems that the Radio Tower's director is being held hostage on the fifth floor, so your first objective is to rescue him. Fortunately, you can leave at any time to heal up at the Poké Center.

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{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Basement Key IV|From Petrel in the Director's office|HGSS|display={{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Basement Key}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}
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=== 2F: Sales ===

The second floor has four Rocket grunts standing guard (as well as a few hostage DJs). Beat the Rockets here, and head up to the third floor.

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{{Trainerdiv|road}}
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{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}
|}

=== 3F: Personnel ===

The third floor has a locked door, two Rockets, and a grunt disguised as a Scientist. Defeat the three and climb the only accessible stairs to the fourth floor.

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{{Trainerdiv|road}}
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{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}
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=== 4F: Production ===

[[DJ Mary]] and her {{p|Meowth}} are being held as hostages on the fourth floor, along with [[DJ Ben]]. Fight past the two Rockets and the Scientist, and climb to the fifth floor.

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{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||1040|2|020|Raticate|♂|24|None|109|Koffing|♂|26|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}
|}

=== 5F: Director's Office ===

When you get to the Director's office, you'll find not the Director, but [[Petrel]] in disguise again. He'll note that the director is elsewhere, and then challenge you a battle. This battle can be very easy or very hard, so make sure that your moves are at least normal effectiveness so that you don't get poisoned by his Pokémon.

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[[Petrel]] hands over the {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Basement Key}}, which opens up the locked door at the southern end of the [[Goldenrod Tunnel]]. Rest your team, save your game, and head into the tunnel.

== Goldenrod Tunnel ==

You'll encounter another [[Kimono Girl]] on the way, and then [[Silver (game)|your rival]] shows up yet again. This time, however, he wants to fight you.

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!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
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{{Trainerdiv}}
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{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Burglar.png|Burglar|Orson|384|2|058|Growlithe|♂|26|None|109|Koffing|♂|24|None|36=ゴロゾー|37=Gorozō}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||960|2|109|Koffing|♂|24|None|089|Muk|♂|24|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt F.png|Rocket Grunt||1000|2|044|Gloom|♀|25|None|044|Gloom|♀|25|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||960|2|020|Raticate|♂|24|None|042|Golbat|♂|24|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||920|2|088|Grimer|♂|26|None|110|Weezing|♂|23|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
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{{trainerfooter|land|2}}
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|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Full Heal|Near the north wall, north of the blue, green, red switches|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Smoke Ball|Southwest corner of the outer area|HGSS}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}
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After [[Silver (game)|your rival]] leaves, you'll run across a puzzle involving switches. The correct sequence of switches to press is blue, green, and then red. Pressing the switches in this order will open the necessary doors for you to reach the door in the southeast. Fight the female grunt, then walk through the door.

Now, you'll find yourself underneath the [[Goldenrod Department Store|Dept Store]]. Grab the Ultra Ball, and follow the hallway around to the east. Pick up the {{DL|Ether|Max Ether}} in the southeast corner, and continue north. Detour up the stairs in the northeast to reach an {{DL|In-battle effect item|Amulet Coin}}, and walk back down. Fight one last Rocket grunt, grab the {{TM|82|Sleep Talk}} near the Radio Tower's Director, and speak to him in the center of the floor. He'll give you the {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Card Key}}, which unlocks those shutters on the Radio Tower's third floor. Get back to the tower to finally clear out the Rockets!

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|- align="center"
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|-
|
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|Near the southwest door|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Potion|Inside a lone cardboard box (hidden)|HGSS}}
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{{Itlistfoot|road}}
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== Radio Tower ==
=== 3F ===

Swipe the {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Card Key}} through the slot, and the door opens. Fight the lone grunt, and head up the stairs.

{{Trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||1040|2|020|Raticate|♂|24|None|109|Koffing|♂|26|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}

=== 4F ===

You know you're getting close when the Rocket executives themselves are guarding the stairs. Fight [[Proton]], grab the {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}, and run up the stairs.

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}}

=== 5F ===

Fight [[Ariana]], then step inside the elevator to reach the tower's Observation Deck.

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=== Observation Deck ===

One Rocket executive left! Walk up to [[Archer]], the current leader of [[Team Rocket]]. Archer tells you that seizing the Radio Tower was all part of their plan to call [[Giovanni]] away from his solo training, and to reclaim the gang's former glory. Battle against Archer and put an end to Team Rocket's wishful thinking!

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Once you defeat him, [[Archer]] laments that their operation was in vain. Like [[Giovanni]] had done {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|three years ago|s}}, he formally disbands [[Team Rocket]], and disappears.

The Director walks up to you, and thanks you for chasing the gang away. To show his appreciation, he gives you the {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Rainbow Wing}}{{sup|HG}} / {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Silver Wing}}{{sup|SS}}. The Director tells you that the Radio Tower stands on what was once the site of an old tower, and while it was being demolished to make room for the Radio Tower, that shimmering feather was found at the top. Once the Director leaves the Observation Deck, you're free to leave the tower. Speak to the girl near the Card Key door on 3F to get {{TM|11|Sunny Day}}, and talk to [[DJ Mary]] on 4F to get a {{DL|In-battle effect item|BrightPowder}}.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Rainbow Wing|From the Director after defeating Archer|HG|display={{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Rainbow Wing}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Silver Wing|From the Director after defeating Archer|SS|display={{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Silver Wing}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Fire|From the girl near the Card Key door on 3F|HGSS|display={{TM|11|Sunny Day}}}}
{{Itlistbod|BrightPowder|From DJ Mary on 4F|HGSS|display={{DL|In-battle effect item|BrightPowder}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}
|}

Now that you've managed to thwart Team Rocket's plans, your next task is to get your eighth Gym badge and challenge the Pokémon League. You will also now be able to face trainers whose numbers are in your [[Pokégear]] in a rematch when they are in contact with you and agree to a rematch. When ready to continue your journey, {{m|fly}} back to [[Mahogany Town]], and head east to {{rt|44|Johto}}.

== Route 44 ==
[[Image:Johto Route44 Map.gif|frame|right|Route 44]]

{{rt|44|Johto}} is a verdant, tree-lined path. Between its two lakes, you'll find the area's single patch of tall grass. Trade phone numbers with Fisherman Wilton by the northern lake, and he'll inform you when wild {{p|Remoraid}} are [[Mass Outbreak|swarming]]. Make your way to the route's east end to reach the entrance to the frozen [[Ice Path]], but be sure to bring along a Pokémon that knows {{m|Strength}}; there are plenty of inconveniently-placed boulders inside the cave.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Psychic M.png|Psychic|Phil|928|2|177|Natu|♂|27|None|064|Kadabra|♂|29|None|36=シュンジ|37=Shunji}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Edgar|896|2|223|Remoraid|♂|28|None|223|Remoraid|♂|28|None|36=シュウへイ|37=Shūhei}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Cool Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Cybil|1740|2|179|Mareep|♀|29|None|182|Bellossom|♀|29|None|36=ノゾミ|37=Nozomi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Cool Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Allen|1740|2|005|Charmeleon|♂|29|None|081|Magnemite||29|None|36=ゴウ|37=Gō}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_PokeManiac.png|Poké Maniac|Zach|1920|1|111|Rhyhorn|♂|30|None|36=モトフミ|37=Motofumi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Wilton|896|3|118|Goldeen|♂|26|None|118|Goldeen|♂|26|None|119|Seaking|♂|29|None|36=ヒデノリ|37=Hidenori|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Vance|896|2|163|Hoothoot|♂|28|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|28|None|36=モトヒロ|37=Motohiro|38=phone}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|lake}}
{{catch/entryhs|069|Bellsprout|yes|yes|Grass|22|all=20%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryhs|070|Weepinbell|yes|yes|Grass|22-24|all=35%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryhs|108|Lickitung|yes|yes|Grass|24-26|all=15%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|114|Tangela|yes|yes|Grass|23|all=30%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entryhs|021|Spearow|yes|yes|Headbutt|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|190|Aipom|yes|yes|Headbutt|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|214|Heracross|yes|yes|Headbutt|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Bug|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|lake|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=95%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|10|all=5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=60%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=38%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|223|Remoraid|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=2%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=7%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=90%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|223|Remoraid|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=3%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|lake|Swarm}}
{{catch/entryhs|223|Remoraid|yes|yes|Swarm|{{tt|40|with Super Rod}}, {{tt|20|with Good Rod}}, {{tt|10|with Old Rod}}|all=Common|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|lake|Special}}
{{catch/entryhs|293|Whismur|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|264|Linoone|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|418|Buizel|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/footer|lake}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Red Apricorn|From the tree on the route's west end|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Repel|Near the red Apricorn tree|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Revive|On the narrow strip of tall grass, between the two lakes|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|Near the northern lake|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Elixir|In the narrow, tree-lined path by the northern lake (hidden)|HGSS}}
|}
|}

=== Ice Path ===
[[Image:HGSS Ice Cave-{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9=Morning|10|11|12|13|14|15|16=Day|17|18|19=Evening|20|21|22|23|0|1|2|3=Night}}.png|frame|right|Ice Path]]

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|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|yes|no|Cave|22|25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|no|yes|Cave|22|5%|20%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|124|Jynx|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|220|Swinub|yes|yes|Cave|21-23|all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryhs|225|Delibird|no|yes|Cave|22|all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth|snow}}
{{Itlistbod|HM Water|1F, beyond the second ice puzzle|HGSS|display={{HM|07|Waterfall}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Carbos|B2F, in the southeast (hidden)|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Potion|B2F, by the western wall|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Full Heal|B2F, in the floor's center|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|NeverMeltIce|B3F, near the {{m|Rock Smash|breakable}} boulder|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Ice|B2F, in the southeast corner|HGSS|display={{TM|72|Avalanche}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Iron|B1F, southwest area of the ice puzzle|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Protein|1F, on the rock ledge north of the Blackthorn exit|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|PP Up|1F, not far from the Kimono Girl|HGSS}}
{{Itlistfoot|snow}}
|}

==== 1F ====
As you enter, you'll notice that the floors are sporadically covered by a glaze of ice, making attempts to traverse the cave more difficult. From the entrance, slide over the first stretch of ice, and continue on to the second. This one is a bit harder; you need to slide ↑, ←, ↑, ←, ↓, ←, ↑, → to reach the clear patch of ground in the center. Slide across the ice patch to the east (→, ↑, ←, ↓, ←, ↑, →) to reach the item, {{HM|07|Waterfall}}. Backtrack a little, and walk up across the rock ledge to reach the stairs in the northeast.

==== B1F ====
On this floor, you'll need to drop the four boulders down each of the four holes in the floor. Walk up north around the row of ice-covered stones, and south to reach the first two boulders. Push the bottom boulder →1, ↓3, ←5, ↓1, and →1 to drop it through the hole to the floor below. While you're nearby, head back north to the other boulder, and push it ↑4. Walk around to the southeast, and head up along the east wall to the third boulder. Shove this one ←1, ↓5, ←1, ↓3, ↑1, and ←4 to drop it through the southeastern hole. Walk north past that hole, and you'll find the fourth boulder - push this one ↑2, →2,↑3, and ←2. Three down, one to go! Now that you're on the opposite side of the first boulder, push it →1, ↓1 through the northwest hole, and you're done. Head down the northeast stairs.

==== B2F ====
Before you head for the next set of stairs, don't pass up the {{DL|Potion|Max Potion}} sitting along the western wall. Start by sliding ↓ from the northeast stairs (pick up the {{DL|Vitamin|Carbos}} hidden in the wall), then ←, ↑, ←, ↓, and ← to reach it.

Start by the northeast stairs again, and this time slide ← across the ice to bump into the first boulder. Slide ↓, ←, ↑, then → to reach the clear bit of ground in the center of the floor. Grab the {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}} and head downstairs.

==== B3F ====
Not much to see here. Grab the {{DL|Type-enhancing item|NeverMeltIce}} (you don't need Rock Smash for this), and take the eastern stairs back to the next area of B2F.

==== B2F ====
Walk down and around onto the rock ledge, and stand two spaces east of the side of the platform. Slide south across the ice, and turn east to reach {{TM|72|Avalanche}}. Take the stairs in the southwest back the next area of B1F.

==== B1F ====
You'll find another ice puzzle here, as well as a lone boulder. Shove the rock a single space to the south, then slide up and around over the ice to reach the {{DL|Vitamin|Iron}}. Take the western stairs to reach the tiny eastern area of 1F.

==== 1F ====
Grab the {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}} near the stairs, and head south. You'll see another [[Kimono Girl]] to the south, stuck on the ice. Of the two open spaces at the ice's edge, stand on the right-hand side and slide ↓, ←, ↓, and → to reach her. After a quick shove, she thanks you and leaves. From here, you can slide directly south to reach the exit. Otherwise, from the spot of ice next to the Kimono Girl, slide ←, ↑, →, ↓, →, and ↓ to reach the {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}.

Step outside to reach [[Blackthorn City]].

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[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 10

2011-07-13T02:43:54Z

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<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the remade [[Nintendo DS]] versions, not {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[Appendix:Gold and Silver walkthrough|here]].</center>

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== Mahogany Town ==
[[Image:HGSS Mahogany Town.png|thumb|250px|right|Mahogany Town]]

[[Mahogany Town]] is a small, quiet town in northern Johto. On your first visit, the [[Mahogany Gym]] is blocked off, and a man at the town's east end prevents travel to {{rt|44|Johto}}. Buy a {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|RageCandyBar}} for {{pdollar}}300 as a souvenir; you'll eventually trade it to someone in Kanto for a TM. There is no official Poké Mart here, but the Souvenir Shop in the center of town sells odd items (like {{DL|Valuable item|TinyMushroom}}s) and the standard Poké Balls and Potions. There's certainly nothing suspicious about the two thugs in the shop, or the poorly-concealed radio antenna in the tree outside. If you flip open your [[Pokégear]] and turn on the radio, you won't hear any of the normal stations. Instead, a strange radio pulse is being broadcast on all channels. There's something suspicious about that Souvenir Shop, but there's nothing you can do just yet.

 
{|
| valign=top | {{shop|Before Team Rocket is cleared out of town}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TinyMushroom|500|PD|}}|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200|PD|}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Potion|300|PD|}}}}
{{shopfooter}}
| valign=top | {{shop|After Team Rocket is cleared out of town}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600|PD|}}|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700|PD|}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1200|PD|}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100|PD|}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Parlyz Heal|200|PD|}}|{{shopitem|Super Repel|500|PD|}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1500|PD|}}|{{shopitem|Air Mail|50|PD|}}}}
{{shopfooter}}
|}

Head up north to check out the [[Lake of Rage]]. You may have done these next few parts earlier in the game. Whichever of these parts you have done, just skip over parts below until you come across something you haven't done.

== Route 43 ==
[[Image:Johto Route43 Map.gif|frame|right|Route 43]]

{{rt|43|Johto}} is a rural, tree-lined path that runs north-south between [[Mahogany Town]] and the [[Lake of Rage]]. To the north, you'll find two places where you can access the Lake of Rage. [[Team Rocket]] has taken over the [[gate]] here, and anyone who tries to pass through the building will get shaken down for {{pdollar}}1,000 as a "toll". Fight a few Trainers, and wander north towards the lake.

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|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Camper.png|Camper|Spencer|320|3|027|Sandshrew|♂|18|None|028|Sandslash|♂|18|None|041|Zubat|♂|20|None|37=Taichi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Tiffany|336|1|035|Clefairy|♀|21|None|36=チサト|37=Chisato|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Marvin|480|3|129|Magikarp|♂|10|None|129|Magikarp|♂|15|None|130|Gyarados|♂|20|None|36=ヨシヒト|37=Yoshihito}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS PokeManiac.png|Poké Maniac|Brent|1536|2|030|Nidorina|♀|20|None|033|Nidorino|♂|24|None|36=マコト|37=Makoto|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS PokeManiac.png|Poké Maniac|Beckett|1280|1|080|Slowbro|♂|20|None|36=スグル|37=Suguru}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS PokeManiac.png|Poké Maniac|Ron|1280|1|034|Nidoking|♂|20|None|36=カズシ|37=Kazushi}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|lake}}
{{catch/entryhs|203|Girafarig|yes|yes|Grass|15|all=30%|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|17|30%|20%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|179|Mareep|yes|yes|Grass|15|10%|10%|5%|type1=Electric}}
{{catch/entryhs|180|Flaaffy|yes|yes|Grass|15|30%|40%|30%|type1=Electric}}
{{catch/entryhs|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|15-17|0%|0%|15%|type1=Bug|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entryhs|164|Noctowl|yes|yes|Grass|17|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|lake|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Surf|5-50|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=95%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=40%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=60%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=93%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=7%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|lake|Special}}
{{catch/entryhs|264|Linoone|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|293|Whismur|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|418|Buizel|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Water}}
{{catch/footer|lake}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Ether|On the ledge just west of the gate|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Blk Apricorn|West of the larger pond (requires {{m|Surf}})|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Poison|From the guard in the gate (after Team Rocket runs off)|HGSS|display={{TM|36|Sludge Bomb}}}}
{{Itlistfoot}}
|}

== Lake of Rage ==
[[Image:HGSS Lake of Rage Wet.png|thumb|350px|right|The flooded Lake of Rage]]

The [[Lake of Rage]] is a large lake, brimming with clear water. It used to be known as a fishing spot with the liveliest {{p|Magikarp}} around, but now a raging [[red Gyarados]] dominates the entire lake. It's also {{DL|Weather|Heavy Rain|raining heavily}}, which has flooded the small forest to the west of the lake. {{m|Surf}} out onto the water to collect all the items, then approach the red Gyarados. Whether you catch it, defeat it, or let it get away, you'll spot the {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Red Scale}} floating nearby - take this to [[Mr. Pokémon]] back on {{rt|30|Johto}} to trade it for the {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Exp. Share}}.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Surf|5-30|all=90%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Surf|5-27|all=10%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=97%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=3%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=90%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Special}}
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{{Itlisth|water}}
{{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|Northeast of the Fishing Guru's house (hidden)|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Red Flute|On the western shore, past the submerged trees|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Choice Specs|On the northeastern shore, past the submerged trees|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Potion|On the northeastern shore, near the Choice Specs (hidden)|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|On the shoreline just northeast of the single house|HGSS|display={{TM|43|Secret Power}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|From the guy inside the lone house|HGSS|display={{TM|10|Hidden Power}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Red Scale|Obtained after battling the red Gyarados|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Black Belt|From Wesley{{dotw|Wednesday}} near the lone house (after clearing Team Rocket out of Mahogany; first meeting)|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|none|From Wesley (after obtaining the Black Belt)|HGSS|display={{DL|Ribbon|Other Ribbons|Downcast Ribbon}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|water}}
|}

After battling the {{p|Gyarados}} and swimming back to the shore, you'll see a man in a black cape with a {{p|Dragonite}} standing near the sign. He introduces himself as [[Lance]], and asks you to assist him in his investigation. 
Follow him back to {{to|Mahogany}}.

=== Later... ===

Visit the lake again on a Wednesday after you run [[Team Rocket]] out of Mahogany Town. You'll find that the water level has dropped, altering the area's layout. This is the only time that you can meet certain Trainers and get particular items, so it's worth it to return in the middle of the week.

== Rocket Hideout - Mahogany ==

When you enter the Souvenir Shop, you'll walk in on [[Lance]]'s {{p|Dragonite}} persuading the thugs to talk. Lance shoves a cabinet out of the way, and reveals a set of stairs leading to the basement. Walk down the stairs, and you will find yourself in Team Rocket's [[Team Rocket HQ|underground base]].

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
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! Items
|-
|
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
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! B1F
|-
|
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Guard Spec.|Near the PC that deactivates the surveillance cameras|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Hyper Potion|Past the second Persian statue|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Nugget|Near the south wall|HGSS}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}
|}
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! B3F
|-
|
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|X Special|Near the grunt who tells you the "RATICATETAIL" password|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Protein|Near the grunt who tells you the "RATICATETAIL" password|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Dark|North of the two grunts who give up the passwords|HGSS|display={{TM|49|Snatch}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Full Heal|Near the east wall|HGSS}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|Just outside of Petrel's office|HGSS}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}
|}
|}

=== B1F ===
As soon as you step in front of any {{p|Persian}} statue, the security camera inside will alert two Rocket grunts to attack you. Follow the hallway to the west, and turn south at the first opening. Turn south again before reaching another Persian statue, and battle Scientist Gregg. Flip the switch on the PC to deactivate the security cameras, and pick up the {{DL|Battle item|Guard Spec.}} Head back north, and turn east near the second Persian statue to pick up a {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}. Walk all the way south, and follow the hallway to the west, where you'll find a {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}, a warp to the entrance, and the stairs leading to the next floor.

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|-
|
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
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|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||760|2|096|Drowzee|♂|17|None|041|Zubat|♂|19|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||720|3|041|Zubat|♂|16|None|019|Rattata|♂|18|None|088|Grimer|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
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|- align="center"
! Other Grunts/Scientists
|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||640|4|019|Rattata|♂|16|None|019|Rattata|♂|16|None|019|Rattata|♂|16|None|019|Rattata|♂|16|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Scientist.png|Scientist|Gregg|640|3|081|Magnemite||20|None|081|Magnemite||20|None|081|Magnemite||20|None|36=フジオ|37=Fujio}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}
|}

=== B2F ===
When you walk down the stairs, you'll meet up with [[Lance]] again, who will heal your Pokémon to full health. You'll see the door to the generator room nearby, but it's locked up tight. Fight past the Rocket grunts, and take the stairs in the southeast.

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{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||720|2|048|Venonat|♂|18|None|048|Venonat|♂|18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||720|1|042|Golbat|♂|18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||680|3|019|Rattata|♂|17|None|019|Rattata|♂|17|None|041|Zubat|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}

=== B3F ===
[[Lance]] has discovered that in order to shut off the radio transmitter, you need the voice of [[Petrel]], one of [[Team Rocket]]'s executives. Evidently, he's hiding out in their leader's office, which is protected by a password - so in order to access the radio broadcast room, you need Petrel's voice; but to get that, you need to track down the two passwords to unlock Petrel's office first. If you're looking to only fight a few Rockets, track down the female grunt nearby, and the male grunt to the southwest; the female gives you the first password - "SLOWPOKETAIL" - while the male tells you the second one - "RATICATETAIL". Grab the {{DL|Battle item|X Special}} and the {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}} in the southwest, pick up the {{TM|49|Snatch}} to the northeast, and a {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}} along the east wall. Take the stairs in the northeast back to B2F.

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! Rocket Grunts
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{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Scientist.png|Scientist|Ross|704|2|109|Koffing|♂|22|None|109|Koffing|♂|22|None|37=Yasufumi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_F.png|Rocket Grunt||720|2|023|Ekans|♀|18|None|044|Gloom|♀|18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Scientist.png|Scientist|Mitch|768|1|132|Ditto||24|None|36=ノブヒロ|37=Nobuhiro}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Rocket_Grunt_M.png|Rocket Grunt||720|1|020|Raticate|♂|19|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
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=== B2F ===
Head south and check out the machinery to find a hidden {{DL|Battle item|X Sp. Def}}. Follow the hallway all the way to the west, and take the stairs back down to B3F.

=== B3F ===
You've made it to [[Petrel]]'s office, and you've collected the two passwords needed to open the door - and [[Silver (game)|look who]] shows up with such great timing. It seems that [[Lance]] defeated him easily, and he's still stewing over what Lance said to him. He shoves you before running off again, leaving you to confront Petrel. Don't forget to grab the {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}} nearby.

When you enter the two passwords, the door slides away, and you walk up to... [[Giovanni]]?! Didn't he run off after disbanding the team three years ago? He did indeed, and the purple-haired copycat is [[Petrel]], the second of [[Team Rocket]]'s executives that you'll have to fight (after [[Proton]] in the [[Slowpoke Well]]). He's so confident that you won't succeed, he even tells you the password to the room with the broadcasting machine - "Hail Giovanni" - but unfortunately, it only works when it's in his voice. Get ready to battle!

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When you beat him, he runs off. Once he leaves, the {{p|Murkrow}} that was sitting nearby demonstrates its ability to mimic voices. It copied [[Petrel]]'s voice, and it remembers the password! It runs back the way you got here, but make a quick detour up the southern stairs to find {{TM|46|Thief}} before following it. It runs all the way back to the generator room and screams the password at the door, mimicking the voice of Petrel. The voice-recognition system unlocks the door, and Murkrow runs off. But just as you step up to the machine, [[Ariana]], another executive, stops you. She and a Rocket grunt are more than happy to finish you off in a two-on-one battle, but [[Lance]] shows up just in time.

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Even though she's been defeated, [[Ariana]] doesn't seem to care. She tells you that the broadcast experiment was a complete success, and that this hideout has served its purpose. With that, [[Team Rocket]] pulls out of {{to|Mahogany}} for good. [[Lance]] inspects the generator, and tells you that the only way to disrupt the signal is to force the six {{p|Electrode}} that are powering the machine to faint. Lance splits the job with you, so you only need to battle three. These Electric type Pokémon are Level 23, so be prepared. Lance says that the signal has stopped, and gives you {{HM|05|Whirlpool}} to show his appreciation. Run up the stairs, and step on the warp to get back to the entrance. 
Now you can challenge the [[Mahogany Gym]]!

== Mahogany Town ==
=== Mahogany Gym ===


{{sign|DPcity|header}}
{{sign|DPcity|title|Mahogany Town Pokémon Gym Leader: Pryce}}
{{sign|DPcity|The Teacher of Winter's Harshness}}
{{sign|DPcity|footer}}

The [[Mahogany Gym]] specializes in {{type2|Ice}}s, so {{t|Fire}}- and {{type2|Fighting}} attacks will generally be the most effective here; however, many of the Pokémon here are {{t|Water}}/{{t|Ice}}-types, so {{type2|Electric}}s wouldn't be a bad idea, either. [[Pryce]] is at home in the winter wilderness, and has installed slick, icy tiles in his Gym to thwart all but the most determined Trainers. To reach him, you'll need to manipulate the blocks that are sitting out on the slick ice.

In the first room, walk straight across the ice to bump into a block, sending it skidding into a second block. Slide ←, ↑, →, ↑ to reach the door.

In the second room, walk up around Skier Diana and slide → into the two blocks. Head up to reach the door.

In the final room, walk past Boarder Deandre and slide → across the ice to the two blocks. Walk ↑ to fight Skier Jill, then slide →, ↓, ←, ↑, →, ↑, →, ↑ to fight Boarder Gerardo. After that battle, slide ← then ↑ to reach Pryce. His {{p|Seel}} and {{p|Dewgong}} can attack with the {{m|Snore}} and {{m|Sleep Talk}} moves, so don't let your guard down, even if they're asleep.

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! Mahogany Gym [[Image:Glacier Badge.png|35px|The Glacier Badge]] 
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{{Trainerdiv|Ice}}
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{{Trainerdiv|Ice}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Boarder.png|Boarder|Deandre|800|3|086|Seel|♂|25|None|086|Seel|♂|25|None|087|Dewgong|♂|26|None|36=フミヤ|37=Fumiya}}
{{Trainerdiv|Ice}}
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{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Boarder.png|Boarder|Gerardo|800|3|090|Shellder|♂|25|None|086|Seel|♂|25|None|091|Cloyster|♂|26|None|36=キンジ|37=Kinji}}
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After defeating him, [[Pryce]] gives out the {{badge|Glacier}}, which increases your party's {{stat|Special Attack}} and {{stat|Special Defense}}, and also allows the use of {{m|Whirlpool}} in the field. Pryce also gives you {{TM|07|Hail}}, a symbol of winter's harshness. One more badge to go!

When you step outside the Gym, {{prof|Elm}} calls you about strange radio broadcasts that mention [[Team Rocket]]. It seems the gang won't take a hint, so fly back to {{ci|Goldenrod}} to finally put them out of their misery.

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{{Project Walkthroughs notice}}
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 25

2011-07-13T02:28:46Z

Blake: blah, silly file renames. Aren't you supposed to check for links when deleting something?

Walkthrough:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver/Part 7

2011-07-13T02:22:53Z

Blake: I think you mean this

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 20

2011-07-13T02:14:38Z

Blake: /* Abuse category */ new section

Arnold's mother

2011-07-13T02:08:47Z

Blake: +links

{{MissingInfo|1|enva}}
[[File:ArnoldsMomHugsAsh.png|thumb|right|Arnold's mother mistakenly believes Ash to be her recently lost son.]]
[[File:Arnold.png|thumb|right|Arnold is reunited with his mother.]]
'''Arnold's mother''' (Japanese: '''ハジメの母親''' ''Hajime's mother'') is a [[character of the day]] from ''[[EP027|Hypno's Naptime]]''. Her Japanese voice actor is 愛河里花子 ''[[Rikako Aikawa]]''.

Arnold's mother was shown early in the episode and had mistaken {{Ash}} for her son, [[Arnold]]. She revealed that Arnold, like other children, had disappeared three days before Ash and {{Ashfr}} had arrived to [[HopHopHop Town]]. Unbeknownst to her, this was due to a {{p|Hypno}}'s {{m|Hypnosis|sleep waves}}, which were being used by socialites to treat {{a|Insomnia}} and as a novelty. The sleep waves had unintentionally effected a larger area than desired, and had brainwashed several children into believing they were various Pokémon. They all had gathered in the park, imitating the Pokémon they believed themselves to be, until Ash and Co, upon discovering their location and the cause of their strange behavior, brought Hypno to the children. Hypno promptly undid the brainwashed behavior and the children returned to normal and were reunited with their parents.

By the end of the episode, {{p|Drowzee}} had used dream waves to wake up all of the children in the park, where Arnold's mother and Arnold were reunited.

{{Project COD notice}}

[[Category:Female characters]]
[[Category:Kanto characters of the day]]

[[de:Arnolds Mutter]]
[[ja:ハジメの母親]]

Walkthrough:Pokémon Crystal/Part 5

2011-07-09T00:54:17Z

Blake: /* Azalea Gym */ replace with table from main article

== Azalea Gym ==
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{{sign|RBY|header}}
{{sign|RBY|AZALEA TOWN POKéMON GYM LEADER: BUGSY The Walking Bug POKéMON Encyclopedia}}
{{sign|RBY|footer}}

With the {{p|Slowpoke}} safe, you are free to challenge your second Gym. The [[Azalea Gym]] is crawling with {{type2|Bug}}s, so if you chose {{p|Cyndaquil}} as your starter, you'll be in great shape. Other Trainers will have to rely on their {{type2|Flying}}s, like Pidgey and Hoothoot, to get the job done. {{type2|Rock}}s also have an advantage here, so this is a great time to give your {{p|Geodude}} or {{p|Onix}} some experience.

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|
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! Azalea Gym [[Image:Hive Badge.png|35px|The Hive Badge]] 
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|
{| align="center" class="expandable" style="background: #{{bug color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{bug color light}};"
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|
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{{Trainerdiv|Bug}}
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{{Trainerdiv|Bug}}
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{{Trainerdiv|Bug}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_BugCatcher.png|Bug Catcher|Josh|208|1|046|Paras|♂|13|None|36=トモミチ|37=Tomomichi}}
{{Trainerfooter|Bug|2|inside}}

{{Party
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|bordercolor={{bug color dark}}
|sprite=LeaderBugsy GSC.png
|prize={{pdollar}}1600
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|name=Bugsy
|game=GSC
|location=Azalea Gym
|pokemon=3

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|gen=2
|game=Crystal
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|level=14
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|move2type=Bug
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|game=Crystal
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|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=2
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|ndex=123
|pokemon=Scyther
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|type1=Bug
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|}
|}
|}

After defeating him, Bugsy awards you with the {{badge|Hive}} and {{TM|49|Fury Cutter}}, a weak Bug-type move that doubles in power for every successful hit. The Hive Badge commands attention from all of your Pokémon at level 30 or less, and also enables the use of {{m|Cut}} outside of battle.

With your shiny new badge, you're free to head through [[Ilex Forest]] on the way to [[Goldenrod City]] - until your rival shows up.

{| align="center"
! {{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
! {{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
! {{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
|{{Party|color={{silver color}}|headcolor={{silver color light}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}|sprite=GSC Silver Johto.png|prize={{pdollar}}960|class=Rival|name=Silver|game=GSC|location=Azalea Town|pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=092|pokemon=Gastly|gender=male|level=12|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost|move3=Spite|move3type=Ghost}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=041|pokemon=Zubat|gender=male|level=14|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|move1=Leech Life|move1type=Bug|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=156|pokemon=Quilava|gender=male|level=16|type1=Fire|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move3=SmokeScreen|move3type=Normal|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}
}}

|{{Party|color={{silver color}}|headcolor={{silver color light}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}|sprite=GSC Silver Johto.png|prize={{pdollar}}960|class=Rival|name=Silver|game=GSC|location=Azalea Town|pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=092|pokemon=Gastly|gender=male|level=12|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost|move3=Spite|move3type=Ghost}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=041|pokemon=Zubat|gender=male|level=14|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|move1=Leech Life|move1type=Bug|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=159|pokemon=Croconaw|gender=male|level=16|type1=Water|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move3=Rage|move3type=Normal|move4=Water Gun|move4type=Water}}
}}

|{{Party|color={{silver color}}|headcolor={{silver color light}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}|sprite=GSC Silver Johto.png|prize={{pdollar}}960|class=Rival|name=Silver|game=GSC|location=Azalea Town|pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=092|pokemon=Gastly|gender=male|level=12|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost|move3=Spite|move3type=Ghost}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=041|pokemon=Zubat|gender=male|level=14|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|move1=Leech Life|move1type=Bug|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=153|pokemon=Bayleef|gender=male|level=16|type1=Grass|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move4=PoisonPowder|move4type=Poison}}
}}
|}

Once he leaves, head on into [[Ilex Forest]].

== Ilex Forest ==
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|-
! class="roundytop" style="background: #FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #FFFFFF;" {{!}} [[File:Ilex Forest.png|300px]]
|-
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|forest}}; {{roundybottom|15px}};" align="center" {{!}} {{color2|000000|Ilex Forest}}
|}

This large, shadowy forest is a natural maze. It has become so overgrown in recent years that a handful of new trees have sprouted up, but one has emerged near the Ilex Shrine, blocking the path through the trees. Without {{HM|01|Cut}}, no Trainers can make it through the hardy forest.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader|forest}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC BugCatcher.png|Bug Catcher|Wayne|160|2|165|Ledyba|♂|8|None|046|Paras|♂|10|None|}}
{{Trainerfooter|forest|II}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catch/header|forest}}
{{Catch/entry2|010|Caterpie|no|no|yes|Walking|5|30%|30%|0%|type1=bug}}
{{Catch/entry2|013|Weedle|no|no|yes|Walking|5|30%|30%|0%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|011|Metapod|no|no|yes|Walking|7|20%|20%|0%|type1=bug}}
{{Catch/entry2|014|Kakuna|no|no|yes|Walking|7|10%|10%|0%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|046|Paras|no|no|yes|Walking|6|all=5%|type1=bug|type2=grass}}
{{Catch/entry2|016|Pidgey|no|no|yes|Walking|7|5%|5%|0%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|043|Oddish|no|no|yes|Walking|5-7|0%|0%|50%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|048|Venonat|no|no|yes|Walking|5|0%|0%|30%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|054|Psyduck|no|no|yes|Walking|7|0%|0%|10%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Walking|7|0%|0%|5%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|010|Caterpie|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|15%|Special Tree}}|type1=bug}}
{{Catch/entry2|013|Weedle|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|15%|Special Tree}}|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=50%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|60%|Special Tree}}|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|204|Pineco|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=30%|type1=bug}}
{{Catch/entry2|011|Metapod|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|5%|Special Tree}}|type1=bug}}
{{Catch/entry2|014|Kakuna|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|5%|Special Tree}}|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entry2|164|Noctowl|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=10%|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|012|Butterfree|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=5%|type1=bug|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entry2|015|Beedrill|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=5%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{Catch/entry2|129|Magikarp|no|no|yes|Fish Old|10|all=85%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entry2|060|Poliwag|no|no|yes|Fish Old|10|all=15%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/footer|forest}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth|forest}}
{{itlistbod|Revive|South-east corner of the forest|C}}
{{itlistbod|HM Normal|Gift from the charcoal maker after the player has returned his {{p|Farfetch'd}}|C|display={{HM|01|Cut}}}}
{{itlistbod|X Attack|At the end of the small path east of the [[Trainer tips]] sign (obscured by trees)|C}}
{{itlistbod|Antidote|By the south-east corners of the pond ''(hidden)''|C}}
{{itlistbod|TM Normal|Given by a man near the lake|C|display={{TM|02|Headbutt}}}}
{{itlistbod|Ether|North-east corner of the forest|C}}
{{itlistbod|Full Heal|South of the pond ''(hidden)''|C}}
{{itlistbod|Super Potion|At the left-side empty path north of the move tutor (''Hidden'')|C}}
{{Itlistfoot|forest}}
|}

=== Rescue the wily Farfetch'd ===

{{to|Azalea}}'s charcoal maker hasn't seen his apprentice since he went into the forest. You'll find him not far from the entrance; it seems that the {{p|Farfetch'd}} that they use to {{m|cut}} down the trees to turn into charcoal has wandered off, and gotten lost in the forest. It gets spooked easily, so you'll have to sneak up behind it to chase it back to the apprentice. Don't forget to pick up the [[Revive]] nearby. Once it's rescued, the charcoal maker shows up and rewards you with {{HM|01|Cut}}! If you return to the Charcoal Kiln in Azalea, the apprentice will give you a {{DL|Type-enhancing item|Charcoal}} as thanks.

Since you already have the {{badge|Hive}} from [[Azalea Gym]], you are free to explore the rest of the forest.

=== The Green-haired Guy ===

In the center of the forest, east of the small pond, is a green-haired guy that will give you a very useful TM. Talk to him to receive {{TM|02|Headbutt}}, a strong attack that also has a helpful function outside of battle. If you have a Pokémon {{m|headbutt}} one of the small pine trees scattered across [[Johto]], you may knock a sleeping Pokémon out of the tree. This is the only way to find Pokémon like {{p|Pineco}}, {{p|Heracross}}, and {{p|Aipom}}, so put it to good use!

=== The Scent of Battle ===

Inside the forest's northern [[gate]] is a woman behind the counter with her {{p|Butterfree}}. If you speak with her, she will give you {{TM|12|Sweet Scent}}. This move can be used in the field to lure wild Pokémon to you, and also lowers the opponent's evasion during battle.

Exit the gate to {{rt|34|Johto}}.

== Route 34 ==
{| class="roundy" align="right" style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|land}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|land}}" cellpadding="2"
|-
! class="roundytop" style="background: #FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #FFFFFF;" {{!}} [[File:Route 34.png|150px]]
|-
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|land}}; {{roundybottom|15px}};" align="center" {{!}} {{color2|000000|Route 34}}
|}

This short route connects [[Ilex Forest]] and [[Goldenrod City]], but one of the most important areas in the game is located here. The [[Pokémon Daycare]], like its counterpart on [[Kanto]]'s Route 5, allows Trainers to leave their Pokémon to be raised by an elderly couple. Any Pokémon left here will gain 1 [[EXP]] for every step you take. However, the Johto Daycare accepts up to two Pokémon to raise at once. If both a male and female are left together, you may return to find that the old couple has found an [[Pokémon Egg|egg]]. Keep the egg in your party like you did with Mr. Pokémon's {{p|Togepi}}, and it will hatch a few hours later. This is the only way to get more members of a certain species (like {{p|Eevee}}) and the new "baby" Pokémon (like {{p|Pichu}})! If you don't have a compatible male-female pair, than track down a {{p|Ditto}} - that shapeshifting blob can mate with almost anything. If you talk to the Daycare Man with an empty slot in your party, he will give you an Egg that will eventually hatch into one of the new baby Pokémon.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{Trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Youngster.png|Youngster|Samuel|128|4|019|Rattata|M|7|None|027|Sandshrew|M|10|None|021|Spearow|M|8|None|021|Spearow|M|8|None|36=コウタ|37=Kōta}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC PokeFanM.png|PokéFan|Brandon|1040|1|209|Snubbull|F|13|None|36=コウサク|37=Kōsaku}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Gina|240|3|187|Hoppip|F|9|None|187|Hoppip|F|9|None|001|Bulbasaur|M|12|None|36=ミズホ|37=Mizuho|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Youngster.png|Youngster|Ian|192|2|056|Mankey|M|10|None|050|Diglett|M|12|None|36=ショウへイ|37=Shōhei}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Officer.png|Officer|Keith|680|1|058|Growlithe|M|17|None|36=マモル|37=Mamoru}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Camper.png|Camper|Todd|280|1|054|Psyduck|M|14|None|36=ヨウイチ|37=Yōichi|38=phone}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catch/header|land|yes}}
{{catch/entry2|019|Rattata|no|no|yes|Grass|11|all=30%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|209|Snubbull|no|no|yes|Grass|10|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|016|Pidgey|no|no|yes|Grass|12|20%|20%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|063|Abra|no|no|yes|Grass|10|all=10%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|132|Ditto|no|no|yes|Grass|10|all=5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Grass|12|all=5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|096|Drowzee|no|no|yes|Grass|12|0%|0%|30%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Grass|12|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|021|Spearow|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=80%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|021|Spearow|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|50%|Special Tree}}|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|214|Heracross|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all={{tt|30%|Special Tree}}|type1=Bug|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry2|190|Aipom|no|no|yes|Headbutt|10|all=20%|type1=Normal}}
{{Catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entry2|129|Magikarp|no|no|yes|Fish Old|10|all=85%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|098|Krabby|no|no|yes|Fish Old|10|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}
|}

Head north to reach Johto's tech-mecca, [[Goldenrod City]].

=== Later... ===

Return to {{rt|34|Johto}} once you can {{m|surf}}. Swim south from the Daycare to find a small path leading into the trees. A trio of Cooltrainers will challenge you, and defeating all three gets you a {{DL|Type-enhancing held item|Soft Sand}}, which strengthens {{type2|Ground}} attacks.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundytop|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{crystal color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{Trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC CoolTrainerF.png|Cooltrainer|Irene|1152|2|118|Goldeen|F|22|None|119|Seaking|F|24|None|36=マリサ|37=Marisa}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC CoolTrainerF.png|Cooltrainer|Jenn|1248|2|120|Staryu||24|None|121|Starmie||26|None|36=マリカ|37=Marika}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC CoolTrainerF.png|Cooltrainer|Kate|1344|2|090|Shellder|F|26|None|091|Cloyster|F|28|None|36=マリア|37=Maria}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}
|}

{{WalkthroughPrevNext|
game=Crystal|
prev=yes|
prevsection=4|
prevname=Route 32, Union Cave, Route 33, Azalea Town, Slowpoke Well|
gamename=Crystal|
next=yes|
nextname=Goldenrod City|
nextsection=6
}}

{{Project Walkthroughs notice}}
[[Category:Crystal walkthrough]]

Cilan's Stunfisk

2011-07-06T20:20:47Z

Blake: /* Personality */ Its Pokedex states "It smiles when transmitting electricity." So it is not worth mentioning on this individual Stunfisk.

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
type1=Ground|
type2=Electric|
ball=Poké|
trainername=Cilan|
pokemonname=Stunfisk|
jtrainername=デント|
jpokemonname=マッギョ|
tmtrainername=Dent|
tmpokemonname=Maggyo|
image=[[File:Cilan Stunfisk.png|230px]]|
caption=Cilan's Stunfisk|
gender=Unknown|
ability=Unknown|
location={{Rt|4|Unova}} |
prevonum=618|
epnum=BW032|
epname= |
current=[[party|With Cilan]] |
enva1= N/A|
java1= [[Unshō Ishizuka]]|
}}

'''Cilan's Stunfisk''' (Japanese: '''デントのマッギョ''' ''Dent's Maggyo'') is the second {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} {{an|Cilan}} caught while on his journey with {{Ash}} and {{an|Iris}}.

==History==
Stunfisk was first seen inhabiting a lake with its friend {{AP|Palpitoad}} in [[BW032]]. Palpitoad asked for Stunfisk's help to get rid of {{Ash}} and {{AP|Oshawott}} as it viewed them as intruders. Stunfisk managed to get them out of the lake and planned to guard against them. But {{an|Cilan}} used his [[fishing]] skills to catch and pull Stunfisk to shore. Palpitoad then appeared before the group and had Stunfisk fire {{m|Mud Bomb}} at the [[Pokémon Connoisseur]] but he managed to evade it. Cilan then lifted his fishing rod in the air and started to spin Stunfisk around; keeping it at bay until Ash was able to defeat Palpitoad. Once he did, Cilan dropped the Trap Pokémon to the ground which, with the combination of dizziness, knocked it out and Cilan captured it.

==Personality==
In its debut, Stunfisk was quite aggressive, like the other Pokémon living in the lake. However strong Stunfisk was, it still obeyed {{AP|Palpitoad}}, proving it doesn't function well in a group without being a 'follower'. After Cilan caught Stunfisk, its personality did not change; as shown in [[BW036]] where after being brought out by {{TP|Iris|Emolga}}'s {{m|Volt Switch}} it attacked a newly revived curious {{p|Archen}} with a {{m|Discharge}} attack when Archen bit it and subsequently laughed.

==Moves used==
{{anmov/h|Ground|Electric|Stunfisk {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|0|1=Camouflage|2=Discharge|3=Mud Bomb}}.png|Using {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|0|1=Camouflage|2=Discharge|3=Mud Bomb}}}}
{{anmov|normal|Camouflage|BW032}}
{{anmov|electric|Discharge|BW032}}
{{anmov|ground|Mud Bomb|BW032}}
{{anmov/f|Electric}}

==Related articles==
{{Animespecies|Stunfisk}}
{{Cilan's Pokémon|ground|electric}}

[[Category:Cilan's Pokémon|Stunfisk]]

[[ja:デントのマッギョ]]

PokéBeach

2011-07-06T15:40:51Z

Blake: Undo revision 1470769 by JaySee (talk) see previous edit summary

{{Fan site|
color={{water color light}} |
bordercolor={{water color dark}} |
corecolor={{water color}} |
sitename=PokéBeach |
slogan=no |
image=PokeBeach.png |
size=216px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=2003 - Present|
create=July 15, 2003 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator=Water Pokémon Master |
articles=no |
forum=no |
mascot=Staryu |
weblink=[http://pokebeach.com/ Main Page]
}}

'''PokéBeach''' is a Pokémon fan site run by Water Pokémon Master.

==History==

The site opened to the public on July 15, 2003, although Water Pokémon Master had been working on it privately since 1999. Since then, it has become one of the most popular Pokémon fan sites on the internet.

Although the site focuses on several aspects of the fandom, its primary focus is the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]]. The site features scans of Pokémon cards, as well as guides on how to play the game.

In 2008, the web site was able to have an interview with [[Masamitsu Hidaka]], a director and storyboard artist for the {{pkmn|anime}}. In it, he revealed much previously unknown information about the series.

In 2009, the site was able to go to the early screening of ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'' in Japan, even though Water Pokémon Master was not picked for the special rally from [[CoroCoro]].

In September 2010, the site's forums inducted a new rule stating that users must use proper grammar and spelling because the site is not a chat room.

On May 25, 2011, a new rule was made banning advertising other websites. There were already advertising rules, but all advertising has been banned, on posts and in signatures. Another rule was also made in the same announcement, banning plagiarism.

Upon the release of [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon Black and White]], PokéBeach was the first of two sites to receive a cease and desist order from Nintendo for posting images of Pokémon Black and White. The site then temporarily changed all pictures from the games to pictures of [[Ditto]] and changed their name to PokerBeach as a joke to protest Nintendo's actions. It has since gone back to using the images and using the name PokéBeach.

==Staff==
===Administrators===
* Water Pokémon Master - Head of PokéBeach

===Super Moderators===
* dmaster
* dragonexpert
* omahanime
* PMJ
* Shining Raikou
* Steadfast
* Xous

===Moderators===
* Afro-G
* amisheskimoninja
* AnthonyG
* Apollo the Incinermyn
* CCloud
* Chariblaze
* CMP
* ESP
* EspeonROX
* Gary Walsh
* Gliscor
* Juliacoolo
* Kevin Garrett
* Limitless
* Mudkip
* safariblade
* Shakespeare
* The Assassin
* Tyraniking
* viper.fox
* XieRH

===Trade Council===

* HeatRotomFTW1997
* kashmaster
* Muddy68
* shadoworganoid
* SotH
* SotS

==External links==
* [http://pokebeach.com/ PokéBeach]

{{stub|Site}} 
{{Project Fandom notice}}

[[Category:Fan sites]]

PokéBeach

2011-07-06T15:40:32Z

Blake: Ages are trivial, unnecessary, and possibly private information.

{{Fan site|
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bordercolor={{water color dark}} |
corecolor={{water color}} |
sitename=PokéBeach |
slogan=no |
image=PokeBeach.png |
size=216px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=2003 - Present|
create=July 15, 2003 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator=Water Pokémon Master |
articles=no |
forum=no |
mascot=Staryu |
weblink=[http://pokebeach.com/ Main Page]
}}

'''PokéBeach''' is a Pokémon fan site run by Water Pokémon Master.

==History==

The site opened to the public on July 15, 2003, although Water Pokémon Master had been working on it privately since 1999. Since then, it has become one of the most popular Pokémon fan sites on the internet.

Although the site focuses on several aspects of the fandom, its primary focus is the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]]. The site features scans of Pokémon cards, as well as guides on how to play the game.

In 2008, the web site was able to have an interview with [[Masamitsu Hidaka]], a director and storyboard artist for the {{pkmn|anime}}. In it, he revealed much previously unknown information about the series.

In 2009, the site was able to go to the early screening of ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'' in Japan, even though Water Pokémon Master was not picked for the special rally from [[CoroCoro]].

In September 2010, the site's forums inducted a new rule stating that users must use proper grammar and spelling because the site is not a chat room.

On May 25, 2011, a new rule was made banning advertising other websites. There were already advertising rules, but all advertising has been banned, on posts and in signatures. Another rule was also made in the same announcement, banning plagiarism.

Upon the release of [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon Black and White]], PokéBeach was the first of two sites to receive a cease and desist order from Nintendo for posting images of Pokémon Black and White. The site then temporarily changed all pictures from the games to pictures of [[Ditto]] and changed their name to PokerBeach as a joke to protest Nintendo's actions. It has since gone back to using the images and using the name PokéBeach.

==Staff==
===Administrators===
* Water Pokémon Master - Head of PokéBeach

===Super Moderators===
* dmaster
* dragonexpert
* omahanime
* PMJ
* Shining Raikou
* Steadfast
* Xous

===Moderators===
* Afro-G
* amisheskimoninja
* AnthonyG
* Apollo the Incinermyn
* CCloud
* Chariblaze
* CMP
* ESP
* EspeonROX
* Gary Walsh
* Gliscor
* Juliacoolo
* Kevin Garrett
* Limitless
* Mudkip
* safariblade
* Shakespeare
* The Assassin
* Tyraniking
* viper.fox
* XieRH

===Trade Council===

* HeatRotomFTW1997 - 14
* kashmaster - 17
* Muddy68 - 15
* shadoworganoid - 19
* SotH - 17
* SotS - 14

==External links==
* [http://pokebeach.com/ PokéBeach]

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{{Project Fandom notice}}

[[Category:Fan sites]]

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== Route 12 ==
[[Image:Route 12.png|thumb|75px|right|Route 12]]

Otherwise known as Silence Bridge, {{rt|12|Kanto}} is a great spot for {{tc|Fisherman|fishermen}}. Pack the [[Poké Flute]], because the second {{p|Snorlax}} is out cold halfway through the route. Walk through the [[gate]] and talk to the girl on the second floor to get {{TM|27|Return}}. Beyond the first fisherman, {{m|surf}} to the dock platform to get {{TM|48|Skill Swap}}.
 
With Snorlax gone, the quick way between {{ci|Vermilion}} and {{to|Lavender}} is clear. The first house south of the {{rt|11|Kanto}} intersection is home to the third {{DL|Fishing Brothers|Silence Bridge Fishing Guru|Fishing Guru}}; this brother hands out the {{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}} to all {{player|fishing enthusiasts}}. This higher-end rod is the best in the game, and it can reel in some of the strongest sea creatures, like {{p|Seaking}} and {{p|Dragonair}}. Continue south, and {{m|cut}} into the clearing with a lone Trainer to get an {{DL|Vitamin|Iron}}. Follow the tree line south to pass onto {{rt|13|Kanto}}.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Ned|792|3|118|Goldeen|♂|22|None|060|Poliwag|♂|22|None|118|Goldeen|♂|22|None|36=トモカズ|37=Tomokazu}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Chip|864|2|072|Tentacool|♂|24|None|118|Goldeen|♂|24|None|36=ケイイチ|37=Keiichi}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Hank|972|1|118|Goldeen|♂|27|None|36=カズホ|37=Kazuho}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Elliot|756|4|060|Poliwag|♂|21|None|090|Shellder|♂|21|None|118|Goldeen|♂|21|None|116|Horsea|♂|21|None|36=アキヒコ|37=Akihiko|38=Vs. Seeker}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_YoungCouple.png|Young Couple|Gia & Jes|1344|2|032|Nidoran♂||24|None|029|Nidoran♀||24|None|36=アユとシゲ|37= Ayu and Shige|38=Vs. Seeker}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Rocker.png|Rocker|Luca|696|2|100|Voltorb||29|None|101|Electrode||29|None|36=アヤキ|37=Ayaki|38=Vs. Seeker}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Camper.png|Camper|Justin|580|2|032|Nidoran♂||29|None|033|Nidorino|♂|29|None|36=マサミチ|37=Masamichi}}
{{Trainerdiv|water}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Andrew|864|2|129|Magikarp|♂|24|None|129|Magikarp|♂|24|None|36=カツノリ|37=Katsunori}}
{{trainerfooter|water}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|23-27|30%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|24-26|30%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|100%|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-35|84%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-35|84%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{Catchtime|Special}}
{{Catch/entryfl|143|Snorlax|yes|yes|Special|30|Only one|type1=normal}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Items
|-
|
{{Itlisth|water}}
{{Itlistbod|Iron|In the forested area near Route 13|FRLG|display={{DL|Vitamin|Iron}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Rod|From the [[Fishing Guru]]'s younger brother|FRLG|display={{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Psychic|On the island near the gate|FRLG|display={{TM|48|Skill Swap}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Net Ball|From the [[Fishing Guru]]'s younger brother. Show him a Magikarp that beats his record to get it|FRLG|display={{DL|Poké Ball|Net Ball}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Hyper Potion|Hidden near Fisherman Elliot|FRLG|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|Hidden in grassy patch near Route 13|FRLG|display={{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|water}}
|}

== Route 13 ==
[[Image:Route 13.png|thumb|300px|left|Route 13]]

{{rt|13|Kanto}} is a maze of fences. There are 10 Trainers scattered around so take care - their 33 Pokémon can take a toll on battle-weary Pokémon. Wander through the maze, and follow the path south to reach {{rt|14|Kanto}}.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Alma|560|3|118|Goldeen|♀|28|None|060|Poliwag|♀|28|None|116|Horsea|♀|28|None|36=ワカバ|37=Wakaba}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Sebastian|696|2|016|Pidgey|♂|29|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|29|None|36=ケイスケ|37=Keisuke}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Susie|480|5|016|Pidgey|♀|24|None|052|Meowth|♀|24|None|019|Rattata|♀|24|None|025|Pikachu|♀|24|None|052|Meowth|♀|24|None|36=ミサキ|37=Misaki}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Beauty.png|Beauty|Lola|1944|3|019|Rattata|♀|27|None|025|Pikachu|♀|27|None|019|Rattata|♀|27|None|36=アユミ|37=Ayumi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Beauty.png|Beauty|Sheila|2088|2|035|Clefairy|♀|29|None|052|Meowth|♀|29|None|36=クニミ|37=Kunimi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Valerie|600|2|060|Poliwag|♀|30|None|060|Poliwag|♀|30|None|36=ホノカ|37=Honoka}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Gwen|540|4|016|Pidgey|♀|27|None|052|Meowth|♀|27|None|016|Pidgey|♀|27|None|017|Pidgeotto|♀|27|None|36=ノゾミ|37=Nozomi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Robert|624|4|016|Pidgey|♂|26|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|26|None|021|Spearow|♂|26|None|022|Fearow|♂|26|None|36=ツバサ|37=Tsubasa}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Perry|600|5|021|Spearow|♂|25|None|016|Pidgey|♂|25|None|016|Pidgey|♂|25|None|021|Spearow|♂|25|None|021|Spearow|♂|25|None|36=キヨヒコ|37=Kiyohiko}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Biker.png|Biker|Jared|560|3|109|Koffing|♂|28|None|109|Koffing|♂|28|None|109|Koffing|♂|28|None|36=エイジ|37=Eiji}}
{{trainerfooter}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|yes}}
{{Catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|24-26|30%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|25-27|20%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|29|5%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|132|Ditto|yes|yes|Grass|25|5%|type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|100%|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-35|84%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-35|84%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}

== Route 14 ==
[[Image:Route 14.png|thumb|75px|right|Route 14]]

Battle past the 11 Trainers here, and follow the trail south and west to reach {{rt|15|Kanto}}, east of [[Fuchsia City]].

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{Trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Carter|672|3|016|Pidgey|M|28|None|084|Doduo|M|28|None|017|Pidgeotto|M|28|None|36=タカヒロ|37=Takahiro}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Mitch|624|4|016|Pidgey|M|26|None|021|Spearow|M|26|None|016|Pidgey|M|26|None|022|Fearow|M|26|None|36=ツカサ|37=Tsukasa}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Marlon|672|3|021|Spearow|M|28|None|084|Doduo|M|28|None|022|Fearow|M|28|None|36=アサト|37=Asato}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Beck|696|2|017|Pidgeotto|M|29|None|022|Fearow|M|29|None|36=トシアキ|37=Toshiaki}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Donald|792|1|083|Farfetch'd|M|33|None|36=イクミ|37=Ikumi}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Benny|696|2|021|Spearow|M|29|None|022|Fearow|M|29|None|36=アキマサ|37=Akimasa}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL Twins.png|Twins|Kiri & Jan|696|2|004|Charmander|M|29|None|007|Squirtle|M|29|None|36=キリとエナ|37= Kiri and Ena}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL Biker.png|Biker|Gerald|580|2|109|Koffing|M|29|None|089|Muk|M|29|None|36=タクロウ|37=Takurō}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL Biker.png|Biker|Malik|580|2|109|Koffing|M|29|None|088|Grimer|M|29|None|36=トキヤ|37=Tokiya}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL Biker.png|Biker|Isaac|560|3|088|Grimer|M|28|None|088|Grimer|M|28|None|109|Koffing|M|28|None|36=セイジ|37=Seiji}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|FL Biker.png|Biker|Lukas|520|4|109|Koffing|M|26|None|109|Koffing|M|26|None|088|Grimer|M|26|None|109|Koffing|M|26|None|36=キョウスケ|37=Kyōsuke}}
{{Trainerfooter|land}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catch/header|land|yes}}
{{Catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|24-26|30%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|132|Ditto|yes|yes|Grass|23|15%|type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|27|10%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|29|5%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}
|}

== Route 15 ==
[[Image:Route 15.png|thumb|300px|right|Route 15]]

11 Trainers and a few items here. {{m|Cut|Hack}} down the tree to climb up onto the hill. Grab the {{TM|18|Rain Dance}} from the ledge, and go to the west to enter the gate. One of {{prof|Oak}}'s aides is upstairs, and rewards Trainers for catching at least 50 species with the {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Exp. Share}}. It distributes [[experience]] to all party members whether they fight or not, though it reduces the total amount for those that participate in battle.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Biker.png|Biker|Ernest|500|5|109|Koffing|♂|25|None|109|Koffing|♂|25|None|109|Koffing|♂|25|None|110|Weezing|♂|25|None|088|Grimer|♂|25|None|36=ジロウ|37=Jirō}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Biker.png|Biker|Alex|560|3|109|Koffing|♂|28|None|088|Grimer|♂|28|None|110|Weezing|♂|28|None|36=マサツグ|37=Masatsugu}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Beauty.png|Beauty|Grace|2088|2|017|Pidgeotto|♀|29|None|040|Wigglytuff|♀|29|None|36=アキエ|37=Akie}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Beauty.png|Beauty|Olivia|2088|2|001|Bulbasaur|♂|29|None|002|Ivysaur|♂|29|None|36=ナオコ|37=Naoko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Kindra|560|3|044|Gloom|♀|28|None|043|Oddish|♀|28|None|043|Oddish|♀|28|None|36=サチコ|37=Sachiko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Chester|672|3|085|Dodrio|♂|28|None|084|Doduo|♂|28|None|084|Doduo|♂|28|None|36=タイシ|37=Taishi}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Edwin|624|4|017|Pidgeotto|♂|26|None|083|Farfetch'd|♂|26|None|084|Doduo|♂|26|None|016|Pidgey|♂|26|None|36=モトキ|37=Motoki}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Yazmin|580|3|069|Bellsprout|♀|29|None|043|Oddish|♀|29|None|114|Tangela|♀|29|None|36=ユイカ|37=Yuika}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Becky|580|2|025|Pikachu|♀|29|None|026|Raichu|♀|29|None|36=アイミ|37=Aimi}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_CrushKin.png|Crush Kin|Ron & Mya|1392|2|107|Hitmonchan|♂|29|Black Belt (item){{!}}Black Belt|106|Hitmonlee|♂|29|Black Belt (item){{!}}Black Belt|36=テツとチカ|37= Tetsu and Chika}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Celia|660|1|035|Clefairy|♀|33|None|36=アキコ|37=Akiko}}
{{trainerfooter|land}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|land|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|043|Oddish|yes|no|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|069|Bellsprout|no|yes|Grass|22-26|35%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|048|Venonat|yes|yes|Grass|24-26|30%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|25-27|20%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|017|Pidgeotto|yes|yes|Grass|29|5%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|132|Ditto|yes|yes|Grass|25|5%|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entryfl|044|Gloom|yes|no|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entryfl|070|Weepinbell|no|yes|Grass|28-30|5%|type1=grass|type2=poison}}
{{catch/footer|land}}
|}

Stop off in {{ci|Fuchsia}} to visit the Poké Center and prepare for the upcoming water-bound routes. Trainers should bring Pokémon that know {{m|Surf}} and {{m|Strength}}, otherwise they won't make it to [[Cinnabar Island]]. Make sure to bring a bunch of {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}s, too. Head south from Fuchsia to hit the beach.

== Routes 19 & 20 ==
[[Image:Route 19.png|thumb|125px|right|Route 19]]
[[Image:Route 20.png|thumb|450px|left|Route 20]]

There are 21 Trainers swimming between Fuchsia City and the [[Seafoam Islands]]. Ride the waves to the southwest.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{trainerheader|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Harold|120|2|072|Tentacool|M|30|None|090|Shellder|M|30|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Reece|116|3|118|Goldeen|M|29|None|116|Horsea|M|29|None|120|Staryu||29|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Tony|120|2|116|Horsea|M|30|None|116|Horsea|M|30|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|David|116|3|118|Goldeen|M|29|None|090|Shellder|M|29|None|119|Seaking|M|29|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Douglas|108|4|116|Horsea|M|27|None|072|Tentacool|M|27|None|072|Tentacool|M|27|None|118|Goldeen|M|27|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Matthew|120|2|060|Poliwag|M|30|None|061|Poliwhirl|M|30|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL SisandBro.png|Sis and Bro|Lia & Luc|240|2|118|Goldeen|M|30|None|119|Seaking|M|30|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerM.png|Swimmer♂|Axle|108|5|072|Tentacool|M|27|None|072|Tentacool|M|27|None|120|Staryu||27|None|116|Horsea|M|27|None|073|Tentacruel|M|27|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Alice|120|2|118|Goldeen|F|30|None|119|Seaking|F|30|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Anya|108|5|060|Poliwag|F|27|None|118|Goldeen|F|27|None|119|Seaking|F|27|None|118|Goldeen|F|27|None|060|Poliwag|F|27|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL_SwimmerF.png|Swimmer♀|Connie|116|3|120|Staryu||29|None|120|Staryu||29|None|120|Staryu||29|None}}
{{trainerdiv|water}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerM.png|Swimmer|Barry|124|2|090|Shellder|M|31|None|091|Cloyster|M|31|None|36=ガクジ|37=Gakuji}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerM.png|Swimmer|Darrin|112|4|116|Horsea|M|28|None|116|Horsea|M|28|None|116|Horsea|M|28|None|117|Seadra|M|28|None|36=テルユキ|37=Teruyuki}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerF.png|Swimmer|Shirley|120|3|116|Horsea|F|30|None|117|Seadra|F|30|None|117|Seadra|F|30|None|36=アサミ|37=Asami}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerF.png|Swimmer|Tiffany|140|1|119|Seaking|F|35|None|36=ハルコ|37=Haruko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Irene|600|3|116|Horsea|F|30|None|072|Tentacool|F|30|None|086|Seel|F|30|None|36=ミズキ|37=Mizuki}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Roger|720|3|022|Fearow|M|30|None|022|Fearow|M|30|None|017|Pidgeotto|M|30|None|36=トモヒコ|37=Tomohiko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerF.png|Swimmer|Nora|120|3|090|Shellder|F|30|None|090|Shellder|F|30|None|091|Cloyster|F|30|None|36=リリカ|37=Ririka}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerM.png|Swimmer|Dean|140|1|120|Staryu||35|None|36=レツジ|37=Retsuji}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Missy|620|2|118|Goldeen|F|31|None|119|Seaking|F|31|None|36=クミコ|37=Kumiko}}
{{trainerdiv}}
{{trainerentry|FL SwimmerF.png|Swimmer|Melissa|124|2|060|Poliwag|M|31|None|119|Seaking|F|31|None|36=メグミ|37=Megumi}}
{{trainerfooter|water|III}}
|}
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catch/header|water|yes}}
{{Catch/entryfl|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|5-40|100%|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|84%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|84%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|15%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|1%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{Catch/footer|water}}
|}

Land on the small plot of land in the center of the route, and step into the [[Seafoam Islands]].

=== Seafoam Islands ===

Like the name says, everything here belongs to the ocean, so expect to encounter many {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Ice}}s. The {{p|Articuno|real prize}} rests on the bottom floor, but there are unstable boulders and treacherous ocean currents to get past first.

==== 1F ====
[[File:Seafoam FRLG1.png|thumb|right|Seafoam Islands, 1F]]

From the entrance, walk to the right and {{m|Strength|shove}} the boulder over the hole, so it drops to the floor below. Walk back towards the entrance, and climb up on the rock ledge. Ignore the first set of stairs, grab the {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Ice Heal}}, and push the second boulder down into the northeast hole. Take the stairway on the rock ledge to the floor below.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Cave|26-33|55%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Cave|26-33|55%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Cave|22-26|34%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|26-30|11%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}

==== B1F ====
[[Image:Seafoam2frlg.png|thumb|left|Seafoam Islands, B1F]]

Step off of the ledge, head northeast over the rock ledge, and push the boulder down the hole again. Backtrack to the northwest stairs.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Cave|29-31|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Cave|29-31|40%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Cave|22-26|34%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|26-30|11%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Cave|28|10%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Cave|33-35|5%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Cave|33-35|5%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}

==== B2F ====
[[Image:Seafoam3frlg.png|thumb|right|Seafoam Islands, B2F]]

Walk to the east to find that same boulder next to another hole. By now you get the idea. Once it falls through, go all the way back to the first floor, and fall through the hole in the northeast.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Cave|30-32|40%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Cave|30-32|40%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Cave|22-24|20%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Cave|30-32|20%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|26-30|10%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Cave|32-34|10%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Cave|32-34|10%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}

==== B1F ====

Shove this boulder through the hole, and drop down after it.

==== B3F ====
[[Image:Seafoam4frlg.png|thumb|left|Seafoam Islands, B3F]]

Climb out of the water and head south. Step down off of the rock ledge to find a group of boulders. In the narrow passage, {{m|Strength|shove}} the right-side boulder to the back wall, and move the left-side boulder ↓1 and ←1. Shove the boulder that's sitting south of the stairs all the way to the left. Move the right-hand boulder north of the eastern hole, and shove it down. Push the left boulder down the western hole, and jump down behind it to B4F.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow|yes}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Cave|30-32|40%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Cave|30-32|20%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Cave|30-32|20%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Cave|30-32|15%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Cave|30-32|15%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|041|Zubat|yes|yes|Cave|24|10%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|26-30|10%|type1=poison|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|087|Dewgong|yes|yes|Cave|32-34|5%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Surf|25-35|60%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Surf|25-30|30%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Surf|25-30|30%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|087|Dewgong|yes|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=water|type2=ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Surf|30-40|4%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Surf|30-40|4%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Surf|35-40|1%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Surf|35-40|1%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|16%|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}

==== B4F ====
[[Image:Seafoam5frlg.png|thumb|right|Seafoam Islands, B4F]]
[[Image:Articunoseafoam.png|thumb|right|Articuno roosting deep in the islands]]

The last floor! With the two boulders in the way, the strong current flowing past this area has been blocked, allowing Trainers to {{m|Surf|swim}} to the small island in the north. SAVE THE GAME before approaching {{p|Articuno}} - there's only one, so don't risk KO-ing it. If Articuno ends up defeated, or you run out of {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}s, turn the power off and on, leave the [[Seafoam Islands|islands]], and prep for a second run.

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{firered color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catch/header|snow|no}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Cave|30-34|50%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|26-30|15%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Cave|32-34|15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Cave|32-34|15%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Cave|32|10%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Cave|32|10%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|087|Dewgong|yes|yes|Cave|34-36|10%|type1=Water|type2=Ice}}
{{catch/div|ocean|Surfing and Fishing}}
{{catch/entryfl|086|Seel|yes|yes|Surf|25-35|60%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Surf|25-30|30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Surf|25-30|30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|087|Dewgong|yes|yes|Surf|35-40|5%|type1=Water|type2=Ice}}
{{catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Surf|30-40|4%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Surf|30-40|4%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryfl|055|Golduck|yes|no|Surf|35-40|1%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryfl|080|Slowbro|no|yes|Surf|35-40|1%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|5|100%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|yes|no|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Good|5-15|60%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|5-15|20%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|116|Horsea|yes|no|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|098|Krabby|no|yes|Fish Super|15-25|80%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|Fish Super|15-25|16%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/entryfl|054|Psyduck|yes|no|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entryfl|079|Slowpoke|no|yes|Fish Super|25-35|4%|type1=Water|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/div|snow|Special}}
{{catch/entryfl|144|Articuno|yes|yes|Special|50|Only one|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}
|}

After catching the first [[Legendary Pokémon|legendary]], surf to the steps near the boulders, and take the first stairway on the rock ledge.

==== B3F ====

Follow the rock ledge east to the other two boulders in the water, and surf east to the opposite shore. From this point, the path to the outside stretches straight ahead. Climb the stairways to the 1st floor, and exit the Seafoam Islands. {{rt|20|Kanto}}'s western half connects to [[Cinnabar Island]].

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Hoenn Route 123

2011-06-29T16:08:08Z

Blake: /* Emerald */ fix

{{Route infobox
|number=123
|size=250
|generation=3
|image=Route 123.png
|type=land
|north=Route 122
|regionnorth=Hoenn
|west=Route 118
|cut=yes
|regionwest=Hoenn
|region=Hoenn
}}

[[File:Route123rs.png|thumb|right|Route 123 in Ruby and Sapphire]]
'''Route 123''' is a lengthy east-west route located in central [[Hoenn]]. The eastern terminus is at the southern end of {{rt|122|Hoenn}}. The western end is at the eastern terminus of {{rt|118|Hoenn}}. Due to the contour along most of the route, movement is limited to westbound travelers only. A portion near Route 118, however, is accessible from the west. Because of these features, Route 123 is very similar to [[Route]]s {{rtn|45|Johto}} and {{rtn|46|Johto}} in [[Johto]]. On days that {{rt|119|Hoenn}} experiences a {{weather|rain|heavy thunderstorm}}, there is also one on Route 123, but not at any other time.

==Route description==
The route begins on a long pier leading from Route 122. However, fishing along this stretch is hindered by the presence of stone barriers around the water. At the end of the pier, Route 123 curves to the west. East of this spot, a single {{m|Cut}}-able tree blocks access to a pair of paths through the forest. The north path leads to a trainer, {{OBP|Psychic|Trainer class}} Cameron. The southern path leads to a {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}} in Ruby and Sapphire, or to a double battle in Emerald.

Back on the main path, Route 123 passes by a [[loamy soil]] patch containing three varieties of [[Berry|Berries]]. To the left of the soil is a girl who loves {{type2|Grass}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. If trainers speak to her while carrying a Grass-type in their party, she will present the trainer with {{TM|19|Giga Drain}}.

West of the soil patch, Route 123 meets the first of two shortcut paths in the area blocked by a tree. By removing the first tree, trainers can avoid a large patch of grass on the main path. To the west of the grass, the two paths reunite near the second tree. By removing this tree, trainers can avoid walking through grass to reach a loamy soil patch with two [[Leppa Berry]] plants. Otherwise, a northerly trek from the main path past a trainer and through grass is necessary to reach the plants.

From this point westward to the segment of the route accessible by Route 118, Route 123 is divided by the terrain into a northern segment and a southern segment. It is possible at almost any time to go from the northern segment to the southern segment via ledges, but not vice versa.

===Northern segment===
From the start of the segment near the Leppa Berries, the path hops down a ledge, passing an {{DL|Ether|Elixir}} before entering a patch of grass. At the west edge of the grass, the path turns south, hopping down two more ledges (with a grass-lined path to the southern segment in between) before returning to the north and leading trainers into the path of a well-placed trainer. From here, the segment turns west, hopping down another ledge into a grassy area before jumping down yet another ledge. Here, the segment passes to the south of a small pond. To the left of the pond is a {{DL|Vitamin|Calcium}}. Southwest of the item, the northern segment crosses over its final ledge, merging with the southern segment at this point.

===Southern segment===
From the trainer south of the Leppa Berries, the route heads west over a ledge before coming to an awkward fork in the road. The south fork leads the southern segment over a ledge while the north fork leads to a grass-filled corridor that eventually comes out on the northern segment. By following the south fork, the path hops over the aforementioned ledge before passing through an empty area and hopping another ledge to run into the path of Psychic Jacki. To her west is another ledge, the final one on the segment, as well as {{tc|Twins}} who will partake in a [[double battle]]. West of the two trainers, the two segments of the route merge into a single Route 123 once again.

Just west of the merge point, there is a hole in the fence that lines the southern portion of the route in this area, leading to an {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}.

Farther west, the route passes by the [[Berry Master]]'s house. Inside, the Berry Master will give out two Berries each day. His wife will give out extremely rare Berries if she is told one of a number of special phrases. Outside, there are six loamy soil patches with two spots each, allowing for 12 different Berry types to be planted.

To the east of the Berry Master's house, Route 123 becomes Route 118.

In {{game|Emerald}}, two trainers were added to the area south of the six loamy soil patches. Also, a trainer was added in the area east of Jacki, as well as to the area south of the Leppa Berries.

==Items==
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|PP Up|Hidden at the end of the middle path of the tree maze in the far east|E|display={{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|Hidden at the end of the bottom path of the tree maze in the far east|RSE|display={{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Grass|From the girl next to the loamy soil near Route 122 after showing her a {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon in the player's current party|RSE|display={{TM|19|Giga Drain}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Hyper Potion|Hidden in a rock to the left of {{tc|Collector}} Ed and {{tc|Hex Maniac}} Kindra|RSE|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Elixir|In the first area of the northern segment|RSE|display={{DL|Ether|Elixir}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Repel|Hidden in an empty square amongst the patch of grass west of the Leppa Berries|RSE|display={{DL|Repel|Super Repel}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Revival Herb|West of {{tc|Guitarist}} Fernando|E|display={{DL|Herbal medicine|Revival Herb}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Calcium|West of {{tc|Psychic}} Jacki|RSE|display={{DL|Vitamin|Calcium}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|South of the Berry Master's house|RSE|display={{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Revive|In the [[Berry Master]]'s garden ''(hidden)''|E|display={{DL|Revive|Revive}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Pecha Berry|Loamy soil near Route 122|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Rawst Berry|Loamy soil near Route 122|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Sitrus Berry|Loamy soil near Route 122|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Leppa Berry|Loamy soil at the east end of the northern segment|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Grepa Berry|Loamy soil in the Berry Master's garden|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Pomeg Berry|Loamy soil in the Berry Master's garden|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Qualot Berry|Loamy soil in the Berry Master's garden|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|unknown|Given by the Berry Master once per day. The berry is between number 25 ([[Pomeg Berry]]) and 30 ([[Nomel Berry]]) on the list.|RSE|display=Random [[Berry]]}}
{{Itlistbod|Spelon Berry|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told the phrase "Great {{pkmn|Battle}}".|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Pamtre Berry|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told the phrase "Challenge {{pkmn|Contest}}".|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Watmel Berry|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told the phrase "Overwhelming {{p|Latias}}" (requires that the {{player}} has seen {{p|Latias}}).|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Durin Berry|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told the phrase "[[Cool Contest|Cool]] {{p|Latios}}" (requires that the {{player}} has seen {{p|Latios}}).|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Belue Berry|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told the phrase "Super {{a|Hustle}}".|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|unknown|Given by the Berry Master's wife if she is told a phrase that does not fit one of the above five, or if the {{player}} says one of the above phrases a subsequent time. The berry is between number 1 ([[Oran Berry]]) and 10 ([[Sitrus Berry]]) on the list.|RSE|display=Random [[Berry]]}}
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==Pokémon==
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{{catch/entry3|355|Duskull|yes|no|no|Grass|26-28|30%|type1=Ghost}}
{{catch/entry3|353|Shuppet|no|yes|yes|Grass|26-28|30%|type1=Ghost}}
{{catch/entry3|263|Zigzagoon|yes|yes|no|Grass|26|20%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry3|264|Linoone|yes|yes|no|Grass|26-28|20%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry3|261|Poochyena|no|no|yes|Grass|26|20%|type1=Dark}}
{{catch/entry3|262|Mightyena|no|no|yes|Grass|26-28|20%|type2=Dark}}
{{catch/entry3|043|Oddish|yes|yes|yes|Grass|26-28|15%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry3|278|Wingull|yes|yes|yes|Grass|26-28|9%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry3|044|Gloom|yes|yes|yes|Grass|26-28|5%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry3|352|Kecleon|yes|yes|yes|Grass|25|1%|type1=Normal}}
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{{catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Surf|5-35|60%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry3|278|Wingull|yes|yes|yes|Surf|10-30|35%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry3|279|Pelipper|yes|yes|yes|Surf|25-30|5%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|70%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|30%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|60%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|20%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry3|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|20%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry3|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|20-45|100%|type1=Water}}
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==Trainers==
===Ruby and Sapphire===
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{{trainerentry|RSE_AromaLady.png|Aroma Lady|Violet|1000|3|285|Shroomish|♀|25||044|Gloom|♀|25||286|Breloom|♀|25||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_PsychicM.png|Psychic|Cameron|744|2|064|Kadabra|♂|31||338|Solrock||31||38=Nav}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_PsychicF.png|Psychic|Jacki|744|2|064|Kadabra|♀|31||337|Lunatone||31||38=Nav}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_HexManiac.png|Hex Maniac|Kindra|744|2|355|Duskull|♀|31||353|Shuppet|♀|31||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_CooltrainerF.png|Cool Trainer|Wendy|1488|3|303|Mawile|♀|31||315|Roselia|♀|31||279|Pelipper|♀|31||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_CooltrainerM.png|Cool Trainer|Clyde|1392|5|277|Swellow|♂|29||328|Trapinch|♂|29||320|Wailmer|♂|29||082|Magneton||29||275|Shiftry|♂|29||}}
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===Emerald===
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{{trainerentry|RSE_BugCatcher.png|Bug Catcher|Davis|432|1|127|Pinsir|♂|27||}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_CooltrainerF.png|Cool Trainer|Jazmyn|540|1|359|Absol|♀|27||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_AromaLady.png|Aroma Lady|Violet|1040|2|315|Roselia|♀|26||044|Gloom|♀|26||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_Twins.png|Twins|Miu & Yuki|624|2|267|Beautifly|♂|26|None|269|Dustox|♂|26|None|}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_PsychicM.png|Psychic|Cameron|744|1|338|Solrock||31||38=Nav}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_NinjaBoy.png|Ninja Boy|Jonas|372|1|109|Koffing|♂|31||}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_ParasolLady.png|Parasol Lady|Kayley|1240|1|351|Castform|♀|31||}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_Collector.png|Collector|Ed|1800|2|335|Zangoose|♂|30||336|Seviper|♂|30||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_HexManiac.png|Hex Maniac|Kindra|720|2|355|Duskull|♀|30||353|Shuppet|♀|30||}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_CooltrainerF.png|Cool Trainer|Wendy|1392|3|303|Mawile|♀|29||315|Roselia|♀|29||279|Pelipper|♀|29||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_Guitarist.png|Guitarist|Fernando|960|2|309|Electrike|♂|30||294|Loudred|♂|30||38=Nav}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_Birdkeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Alberto|960|2|279|Pelipper|♂|30||178|Xatu|♂|30||}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_CooltrainerM.png|Cool Trainer|Braxton|1344|5|277|Swellow|♂|28||328|Trapinch|♂|28||320|Wailmer|♂|28||082|Magneton||28||275|Shiftry|♂|28||}}
{{trainerdiv|land}}
{{trainerentry|RSE_PsychicF.png|Psychic|Jacki|720|2|064|Kadabra|♂|30||337|Lunatone||30|38=Nav}}
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{{trainerentry|RSE_ExpertM.png|Expert|Fredrick|1200|2|296|Makuhita|♂|30||067|Machoke|♂|30||}}
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2011-06-16T03:03:36Z

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Hall of Fame

2011-06-16T02:21:14Z

Blake: /* Rewards */ fix goof with link template

:''For the books, see [[Pokémon: Sinnoh Hall of Fame]] and {{book|Pokémon Hall of Fame}}.''
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[[File:Halloffame.png‎|thumb|right|220px|Entering the Hall of Fame in Pokémon Platinum]]
The '''Hall of Fame''' is a record kept by the [[Pokémon League]] of all the [[Pokémon Trainer]]s who have ever beaten the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]]. Various data regarding the victorious Trainer is recorded. The Hall of Fame is in a room accessible from the {{pkmn|Champion}}'s room, and may be accessed by people who have entered it by way of [[PC]].

==Data recorded==
In each game, different data is recorded. This is a list of which data is visible on the Hall of Fame PC option.

===Generation I===
{{incomplete|section|needs=Generation I and V like Generations II-IV}}
Player's party is shown his sprite, number of Pokémon obtained, playing time and name.

===Generation II===
Party, Pokémon Trainer's information; individual Pokémon's species, nickname, sprite, level, and [[Trainer ID number]].

===Generation III===
Number of Hall of Fame entry, party; individual Pokémon's [[National Pokédex]] number, species, nickname, sprite, gender, level, and [[original Trainer]]'s [[Trainer ID number|ID number]].

===Generation IV===
Number of Hall of Fame entry, date, party; individual Pokémon's species, nickname, sprite, gender, level, [[original Trainer]] and moves.

===Generation V===
The player's party after defeating all members of the Elite Four for the first time will be recorded. Subsequent battles (those requiring [[Alder]] to be defeated) will also be added.

==Rewards==
* In [[Generation I]], the player is granted access to [[Cerulean Cave]], while the [[Generation III]] remakes has it as one of the requirements needed to enter the Cerulean Cave.
* In [[Generation II]] and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, the player is given an {{DL|List of_ key items in Generation II|S.S. Ticket}} for the [[S.S. Aqua]], effectively giving them access to the rest of the [[Kanto]] region.
* In [[Generation III]] and [[Generation IV]], a star will be placed on the player's {{ga|Trainer card}}, changing its color.
* In [[Generation III]], a {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Champion Ribbon}} will be given to all of the player's Pokémon that get into the Hall of Fame. In {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, a {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Sinnoh Champ Ribbon}} will be given to all of the player's Pokémon that get into the Hall of Fame.
* In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, {{ga|Barry|the rival's}} team at the [[Fight Area]] will be ten levels higher once the player enters the Hall of Fame twenty times. In {{game|Platinum}}, under the same conditions, the rival's team at the [[Survival Area]] will be twenty levels higher.

==Glitches==
*In the [[Generation I]] games, if the player encounters [[Missingno.]] or other [[glitch Pokémon]], the Hall of Fame data may be corrupted by a [[glitch]] in the game. When Missingno. has been seen on the save file, the player's Hall of Fame is badly corrupted with entirely different Pokémon which will often consist of glitched characters and names. Players can often see particular Pokémon in the Hall of Fame, whether they have seen them in the Pokédex or not. This effect also works in {{game|Yellow}} when encountering glitch Pokémon through the [[Mew glitch]]. However, a way to avoid the effects of this glitch is to encounter Missingno. or any other glitch Pokémon before entering the Hall of Fame, because encountering a Missingno. only affects the teams already registered in the Hall of Fame. Players can also defeat the Elite Four multiple times after having encountered Missingno., as the game will automatically overwrite older Hall of Fame entries after the Elite Four is defeated 20 times.
*In {{game|Red and Green|s}}, by performing the [[Dokokashira door glitch]] players can quickly complete the game by forcing the next door to take them to another location, this can include the Hall of Fame room. This extremely hazardous and game-breaking glitch was removed from [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], causing it to not be present in the translated {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.

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Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-06-13T03:15:52Z

Blake: /* Pokemon Online RPG */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Why has no one said anything about the roars of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Zekrom in the anime? Cause it should at least in the trivia say that: Dialga uses King Ghidorah's roar. Palkia uses Boga's roar and some of Godzilla's and King Ghidorah's roars. Giratina uses Mothra's roar. And Zekrom uses Megaguirus's roar. I know that its not that important but it is fact so cant it be put in their trivia section on thier pages? Am i the only one that thinks that it should?

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I don't mean using sound clips; those are O-U-T OUT. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Wait, hold on, I think this is a great idea. Pokémon Battle Revolution has all the Pokémon names through Gen. IV pronounced like they're supposed to be. PBR is a canon game made correctly by Nintendo, and 4Kids has has some inaccuracies in the past. I think if a conflict arises we should just consult PBR. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] [[User talk:Igglybuff63|(Talk)]] 14:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::From reading a MediaWiki users' forum and asking operators of other wikis, it seems that someone has just written bot code and is in the process of sending the bots through a list of wikis he's found somewhere. We are not the only wiki being targeted with this kind of action. (And to be honest, I'm surprised the bots can land any edits, given the amount of session loss errors around... and please no one start complaining about that now; we know they exist and we're working on it.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::What about this idea: Making it mandatory to have a registered email address to edit this wiki. The reason why there are so many spambots is because an email address isnt required to edit the wiki. If somehow the Mediawiki code can be changed in order to make email registration mandatory.--[[User:PresidentMudkip|PresidentMudkip]] 01:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::As far as I'm aware, email address confirmation has been required to edit mainspace pages for a long time now, since before I joined in late 2008. These bots must therefore be able to confirm their email addresses. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Game Synopsis? ==

I've scoured Bulbapedia and google for the synopsis of the Pokemon games but can't find them at all! Can anyone point me to them?
Eg, How each games unfolds and how they link into eachother (I know there's a lot to do with gen I in the gen II games)
Thanks! [[User:Dazzaclarke|Dazzaclarke]] 20:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:I believe the closest you can get to a synopsis of the story is rather each article's Plot section such as [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions#Plot|this]]. OR For a walk through the plot of each game you can look here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs/To-do list|Walkthroughs]]. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 23:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::You could also try [[history of the Pokémon world]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Date ==

Um, today is not march 4th... [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:It is currently March 4th, UTC. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 00:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:: it is 7:42 PM, march 3rd.. [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Only if you are in the Eastern Standard Timezone. The timer on the main page is measuring in Greenwich Mean Time.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: Oh, thx! [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't Black and White come out on the 6th? Why does it say it's out on the 4th? - [[User:Bpc908|Bpc908]] 00:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::::::Because it comes out in Europe on the 4th, which is today, a couple of days ahead of when it comes out in the US, which is the 6th. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 01:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Let's count down to March 6 now! ==

Why not? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, what would be the point of that? It is only two days away, and the games are out in English now, since they are out in Europe. It just so happened with Gen V that Europe got the first English language games, instead of the US. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 02:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::[[#Countdown 2|This is why it's not going to happen]]. Full stop. End. Of. Story. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

==Small Idea==

Is it planned exactly what time the website would be lockdowned during game releases? If so maybe you could post a warning on the website banner around what time the website would be locked if possible so users making large edits won't lose all of their work? Just a idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:If you haven't figure it out by now, it's usually during the time of the release of a new game. It's usually locked down to reduce server stress. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::Yes I realize that but the website was blocked on last friday or so it was fine at 2:30 but blocked at around 3:13 it's very hard to know when it's gonna lock down with no warning. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::We don't have a schedule for when the site is locked. It's unfortunate, and we don't do it to inconvenience Bulbapedia editors. When the traffic to Bulbapedia spikes to such a rate which can trigger server outages, we close off editing. This vastly reduces the number of pages being loaded, therefore reducing server use levels. This may happen at any time, especially around new games (although we have had work done to our network of servers recently which should hopefully reduce this in future). I apologise, but there is no way we can give any kind of warning for locking the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay I just wanted to know if it was possible. I know all about the server stress and the chaos it takes to run the site around high traffic times. Thank you for anwsering. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Bulba-style templates ==

I see that you are updating many generic templates with a style that fits Bulbawikis better, such as the one for the contents list on many articles. Are you planning on doing the same for the image and category templates as well? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Emerald animated sprites out of whack ==

Can somebody please explain why all of the animated sprites from Emerald version are playing really fast? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 01:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:They look normal to me. What browser are you using? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 02:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm using Google Chrome. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::A recent update to Chrome sent them faster for whatever reason.—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 23:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::: It appears that the ''Emerald'' sprites are also sped up in Mozilla Firefox for some reason; I viewed the pages of the Hoenn starters to inspect the occurrence, and the problem may be most evident with [[Whiscash]]'s page, as I recall that its "flopping" is typically one of the longer ''Emerald'' animations...[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] 05:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Firefox, Google chrome, and Opera do this, don't know why. =P Firefox, and Opera support APNG, maybe there is a sacrifice for APNG support?—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moves in Triple Battles ==

I know you have what positions moves target in Triple Battles but it's not entirely clear. I can't tell whether it means it will hit all 3 opponents or just the 2 non diagonal ones infront of you. If it could be more specific as in which Pokemon it will hit if you are in the centre and which Pokemon you will hit if you are at the side. Thanks. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:The diagrams should help, but unfortunately we are half-way through updating them. Most moves which say that they can hit any opponent can only hit adjacent opponents. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moving Sprites for Black and White ==

I have seen how on this site and many others how the Crystal and Emerald sprites move on their list of sprites but ones on DPP and HGSS don't. I can understand because they only flash between 2 separate sprites but for Black and White the sprites are constantly in motion and I have seen moving images of them before on the internet so I don't think it will be a problem to add them to the pages. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:Most sprites from DPPtHGSSBW are animated. However, they are animated PNG files, so cannot be seen animated in all browsers. They cannot be seen in Internet Explorer or Google Chrome, while they can in Mozilla Firefox and Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: Most sprites from BW ''should'' be animated, but I don't think all of them have been uploaded yet. In particular, I believe we lack the animated sprites for a number of National Dex Pokémon. Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than just adding ones you find on the internet: For one, most of the ones you find elsewhere might be the wrong format, and we would also want to get them directly from the game in order to make sure they're completely accurate. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl themed Main Page ==

The page appears to be a Diamond & Pearl theme today - any particular reason? ----[[Freeze Bolt|Cyclone]][[Totodile|blaze]] ([[User:Cycloneblaze|user]] - [[User talk:Cycloneblaze|talk]]) 13:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:I would guess it's because Diamond and Pearl has been out for 4 years today in North America. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 14:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, Carmenstar is right. The main page usually changes its layout in times like these, this time is for the fourth anniversary of Diamond and Pearl. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Irrelevant info ==
May I make a statement? Other users (Kenji-girl, for example) won't let me delete irrelevant information! Block them and remove all irrelevant info! Please? It will make this Wiki more efficient!{{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:Said user is a Super Admin, meaning that '''''she''''' can block '''''you''''' and that she knows what she is doing [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:23, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, well, Sonic News Network doesn't allow irrelevant info, saying it's not needed! Who's right? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 21:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Well, this isn't Sonic News Network. Things work differently between Wiki's. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:58, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
::::If Kenji-Girl undid you it's probably because your in the wrong. Not saying that she's always right, but she has been on the wiki for a long time so there's obviously a reason. There's really no reason to continue this conversation. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== Shorthand route naming system ==

Would it be a good idea to have a shorthand method of referring to routes, for example

*R1 links to route 1
*UR1 links to Unova route 1
Is this a good idea? [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 11:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:Too many things can be considered "R". I know, for example, that the Japanese cards have recently been listing Rare as R on cards and UltraRare as UR. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 11:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, but this would always be followed by a number to avoid confusion. If needed a disambiguation page could be placed at R to link to Route and TCG, same at UR except link to Unova[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
::UR1 is Reshiram, UR2 is Tornadus, UR3 is Pikachu, UR4 is Zekrom, UR5 is Thundurus, UR6 is Pikachu. This is just one example, plus R1 could also mean the Unova Route 1, since that is what it is called in the game. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:::The laziness expands. Is it that difficult to type out the word "route"? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
::::If you want to be more efficient, you could just type "1" into the search box, and then look about halfway down the page... [[User:Tails0600|Tails0600]] 05:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

== Stub/glitch template ==

I am having trouble finding the glitch stub template and the glitch template. Help? {{unsigned|Higejolly}}
:See [[Template:stub]]. You will need to write it as <nowiki>{{stub|glitch}}</nowiki>. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. What about the glitch template?[[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 00:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:::{{template|GlitchPkmn}} that one? If you're not sure, you could find a page that has the template you want and look at the code. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not it. I'll try to find it.{{unsigned|Higejolly}}
:::::Found it [[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 12:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Its Not A Stub ==

I fixed [[Jenny (movie)]] so why is it a featured stub still

[[User:DrBrock|DrBrock]] 13:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC) DrBrock
:All you really did was add the VA. It's still very short. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

==Suggestion==
I'm not sure where to suggest this so I'll ask here. Currently Smeargle isn't added in any egg move table, since Smeargle can pass down any egg move to ground egg group Pokémon I think it should be added. I found it annoying when it took me so long to figure out that Scraggy can have Dragon Dance and Drain Punch in the same moveset with Smeargle, I don't think people generally check a Pokémon's egg group when breeding egg moves because that's what the egg move tables for, also it would be more accurate to have Smeargle. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:Each move only has the most direct way of learning the move in the father sections. Smeargle can't learn the move directly, it must learn it from something else. The reason this is done is to prevent the father sections from becoming too massive and bloated. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:47, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

== Pokémon Grim? ==

The restaurant my Dad works at has a Japanese family that comes a lot. They always bring a Pokémon game. One night while working, my dad saw a box for Pokémon Grim Version. Has anyone heard of it? [[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 23:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:No. It's probably a fake/hack/pirated game. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:24, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
::Did it look like this? http://www.vgboxart.com/view/36645/pokemon.grim.version/?replies=5 — [[User:ISB|ISB]] 23:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Only my dad knows, but what he explained did sound like Darkrai. Also, the box was in Japanese. [[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 00:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, it's fake. This discussion is now over. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 00:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::Now '''I''' saw it at the store (a person carrying it)! Also in Japanese. --[[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 21:56, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::Did what you see match the stuff from the link above?—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 22:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::It's fake. What is so hard to understand about that? Lots of pirated games appear in stores. It doesn't make official, nor legit. Whatever you are seeing is a fake and pirated. Now, please drop this discussion. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Navigating to the forums ==

The forums link on the navigation template needs to be updated, because the url destination doesn't exist. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Online RPG ==

I was wondering if there is a realistic Online RPG for Pokemon. By Realistic, I mean You get a Pokemon, battle Gym Leaders, and Shiny Pokemon are practically Common. It would be Preferable if the Game was an actual 'walk/travel' based, and not all Link Supported.
Thanks To Any and All who reply :)

PS: I have tried:
Pokemon Online-But Never Got It to Work :/
Pokemon Volcano-Highly Disliked it due to the fact it has only 3 Screen -.-'
Pokemon Lake-Disliked for its over-use of Shinies, unrealistic game-play, and that moves are not affected by the Pokemon's Speed, Attack, Special Attack, or anything else honestly.
--[[User:Drake Delison|Dragon Tamer Drake D]] 03:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:This is not the place for asking which fangame to play. This is the place to ask about helping our collection of information. Go o the forums please. Thanks, '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 03:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Energy Ball (move)

2011-06-04T14:37:58Z

Blake: /* By TM53 */ fix

{{MoveInfobox|
n=412 |
name=Energy Ball |
jname=エナジーボール |
jtrans=Energy Ball |
jtranslit=Enajī Bōru |
desc=The user draws power from nature and fires it at the target. It may also lower the target's Sp. Def. |
gameimage=Energy Ball.png |
type=Grass |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=80 |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=??? |
target=any|
gen=IV |
category=Beauty |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=+2 if first to appeal |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=Energy%20Ball |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
tm4=yes |
tm#4=53 |
tm5=yes|
tm#5=53|
na=no |
footnotes= }}
'''Energy Ball''' (Japanese: '''エナジーボール''' ''Energy Ball'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Grass}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].

==Effect==
Energy Ball damages the target and has a 10% chance of lowering the target's {{stat|Special Defense}}.

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Grass|4}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|252|Treecko|1|Grass|Grass|51|51|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|270|Lotad|2|Water|Grass|43|PtHGSS=45|45|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|50|50|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|56|56|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|492|Shaymin|1|Grass|Grass|73|73|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|492|Shaymin|1|Grass|Grass|no|PtHGSS=73|73|'''|Sky}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|546|Cottonee|1|Grass|Grass|no|35|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|548|Petilil|1|Grass|Grass|no|35|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|585|Deerling|2|Normal|Grass|no|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|586|Sawsbuck|2|Normal|Grass|no|32|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|4}}

===By [[TM53]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Grass|4|no|no|no|TM53|TM53}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|001|Bulbasaur|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|002|Ivysaur|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|003|Venusaur|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|043|Oddish|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|044|Gloom|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|045|Vileplume|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|046|Paras|2|Bug|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|047|Parasect|2|Bug|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|063|Abra|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|064|Kadabra|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|065|Alakazam|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|069|Bellsprout|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|070|Weepinbell|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|103|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Psychic|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|114|Tangela|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|122|Mr.Mime|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|124|Jynx|2|Ice|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|152|Chikorita|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|153|Bayleef|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|154|Meganium|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|182|Bellossom|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|187|Hoppip|2|Grass|Flying|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|188|Skiploom|2|Grass|Flying|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|189|Jumpluff|2|Grass|Flying|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|191|Sunkern|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|192|Sunflora|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|203|Girafarig|2|Normal|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|224|Octillery|1|Water|Water|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|234|Stantler|1|Normal|Normal|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|252|Treecko|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|253|Grovyle|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|254|Sceptile|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|267|Beautifly|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|269|Dustox|2|Bug|Poison|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|270|Lotad|2|Grass|Water|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|271|Lombre|2|Grass|Water|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|272|Ludicolo|2|Grass|Water|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|274|Nuzleaf|2|Grass|Dark|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|282|Gardevoir|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|284|Masquerain|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|285|Shroomish|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|286|Breloom|2|Grass|Fighting|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|308|Medicham|2|Psychic|Fighting|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|315|Roselia|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|326|Grumpig|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|331|Cacnea|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|332|Cacturne|2|Grass|Dark|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|351|Castform|1|Normal|Normal|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|358|Chimecho|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|380|Latias|2|Psychic|Dragon|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|381|Latios|2|Psychic|Dragon|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|387|Turtwig|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|388|Grotle|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|389|Torterra|2|Grass|Ground|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|406|Budew|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|407|Roserade|2|Grass|Poison|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|413|Wormadam|2|Bug|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|414|Mothim|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|420|Cherubi|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|421|Cherrim|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|429|Mismagius|1|Ghost|Ghost|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|455|Carnivine|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|459|Snover|2|Grass|Ice|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|460|Abomasnow|2|Grass|Ice|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|470|Leafeon|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|480|Uxie|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|481|Mesprit|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|482|Azelf|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|488|Cresselia|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|490|Manaphy|1|Water|Water|yes|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|492|Shaymin|1|Grass|Grass|yes|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|493|Arceus|1|{{Arceustype}}|{{Arceustype}}|yes|yes|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''|''}}}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|494|Victini|2|Psychic|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|495|Snivy|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|496|Servine|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|497|Serperior|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|511|Pansage|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|512|Simisage|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|517|Munna|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|518|Musharna|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|527|Woobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|528|Swoobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|540|Sewaddle|2|Bug|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|541|Swadloon|2|Bug|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|542|Leavanny|2|Bug|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|546|Cottonee|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|547|Whimsicott|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|548|Petilil|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|549|Lilligant|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|556|Maractus|1|Grass|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|562|Yamask|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|563|Cofagrigus|1|Ghost|Ghost|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|574|Gothita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|575|Gothorita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|576|Gothitelle|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|577|Solosis|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|578|Duosion|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|579|Reuniclus|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|585|Deerling|2|Normal|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|586|Sawsbuck|2|Normal|Grass|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|588|Karrablast|1|Bug|Bug|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|589|Escavalier|2|Bug|Steel|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|590|Foongus|2|Grass|Poison|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|591|Amoonguss|2|Grass|Poison|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|592|Frillish|2|Water|Ghost|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|593|Jellicent|2|Water|Ghost|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|595|Joltik|2|Bug|Electric|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|596|Galvantula|2|Bug|Electric|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|597|Ferroseed|2|Grass|Steel|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|598|Ferrothorn|2|Grass|Steel|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|605|Elgyem|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|606|Beheeyem|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|607|Litwick|2|Ghost|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|608|Lampent|2|Ghost|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|609|Chandelure|2|Ghost|Fire|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|616|Shelmet|1|Bug|Bug|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|617|Accelgor|1|Bug|Bug|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|632|Durant|2|Bug|Steel|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting|no|yes|'''}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic|no|yes|}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|649|Genesect|2|Bug|Steel|no|yes|}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|4}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Grass|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|Fire|{{MSP|203|Girafarig}} {{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|273|Seedot}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}} {{MSP|326|Grumpig}} {{MSP|470|Leafeon}}|no}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|4}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation IV]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Grass}}
{{Moveentryspecial|492|Shaymin|1|Grass|Grass|[[M11|11th Movie]] [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2008#Movie Shaymin|Events]]||50}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon charges and then fires a ball of greenish-blue energy.|image1=Torterra Energy Ball.png|image1p=Torterra|image2=Cottonee Energy Ball.png|image2p=Cottonee|image3=Ash Swadloon Energy Ball.png|image3p=Swadloon|image4=Grotle Energy Ball.png|image4p=Grotle}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=286|pkmn=Breloom|method=Breloom opens its mouth and a green energy ball appears in front of it. It then fires the ball at the opponent. When it hits the opponent, it explodes on impact.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Kenny (Sinnoh)|user1=Kenny's Breloom|startcode=DP060|startname=Journey to the Unown!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=387|pkmn=Turtwig|method=The leaves on Turtwig's head start to glow light green and it forms a green energy ball in front of its mouth. It then fires it at the opponent. The ball explodes on impact.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Turtwig|startcode=DP062|startname=Tanks for the Memories!|notes=Mastered in {{color2|{{grass color dark}}|DP064}}}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=492S|pkmn=Shaymin|method=Shaymin opens its mouth and forms a green ball of energy in front of its mouth and fires it at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Shaymin (movie 11)|startcode=M11|startname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=346|pkmn=Cradily|method=Cradily puts its tentacles together in front of its face and forms a green ball of energy in between them. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Cradily (Pokémon)|user1=Canalave Gym's Cradily|startcode=DP108|startname=Dealing With Defensive Types!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=388|pkmn=Grotle|method=The bushes on Grotle's back glow light green or white and it forms a green ball of energy in front of its mouth. Grotle then fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Grotle|startcode=DP121|startname=The Lonely Snover!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=Grovyle puts its hands together and forms a green ball of energy in between them. Grovyle then brings its hands forward and fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Grovyle (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|startcode=SS021|startname=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - Beyond Time & Darkness}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=389|pkmn=Torterra|method=Torterra opens its mouth and fires a green ball of energy from its mouth at the oppoenent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Torterra|startcode=DP168|startname=Keeping in Top Forme!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=The leaf on Leafeon's head glow white and it forms a green ball of energy in front of its mouth. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Zoey's Leafeon|startcode=DP176|startname=Coming Full Festival Circle!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=541|pkmn=Swadloon|method=Swadloon forms a light green ball of energy in front of its mouth. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Swadloon|startcode=BW025}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=546|pkmn=Cottonee|method=Cottonee's ears glow and a ball of energy forms in front of it. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=grass|user=Cottonee (Pokémon)|user1=Wild Cottonee|startcode=BW032}}

==In the manga==

===Phantom Thief Pokémon 7===
{{Movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user attacks with a powerful sphere of energy.|image1=Mismagius Energy Ball P7.png|image1p=Mismagius}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=429|pkmn=Mismagius|method=Mismagius forms a sphere of energy at the opponent and then fires it.}}
{{MovebtmManga|type=grass|user=Lily (Pokémon 7)|user1=Lily's Mismagius|startcode=P7-04|startname=A Fated Reunion|notes=Debut}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots a powerful ball of energy at the opponent.|image1=Mismagius Energy Ball Adventures.png|image1p=Mismagius}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=429|pkmn=Mismagius|method=Mismagius shoots a ball of energy at the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=grass|user=Fantina|user1=Fantina's Mismagius|startcode=PS373|startname=VS Mismagius II|notes=Debut}}

==Trivia==
* Before [[Generation V]], {{p|Vulpix}}'s {{p|Ninetales|family}} can obtain this move through breeding, but unable the same move via TM.
* It is a [[Special move|special]] counterpart to {{m|Seed Bomb}}, except it has an added effect.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color light}}
|zh_cmn=能源球 ''Néngyuán Qiú''
|nl=Energie Bal
|fr=Eco-Sphère
|de=Energieball
|el=Ενεργειακή Σφαίρα
|it=Energipalla
|ko=에너지볼 ''Energy Ball''
|no=Energi Ball
|pt=Esfera de Energia
|es=Energibola}}

{{crunch|grass}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Generation V TMs}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Energieball]]
[[fr:Éco-Sphère]]
[[it:Energipalla (mossa)]]
[[ja:エナジーボール]]
[[pl:Energy Ball]]
[[pt:Energy Ball]]

User:Blake

2011-06-01T03:21:17Z

Blake: add image similar to my old personal image to take up the slack of the userbox and make it look decent. Yes, I did 2 userspace edits. woopie.. I dont care.

<div class=userbox>{{CharInfobox|
color={{blue color}} |
corecolor={{blue color light}} |
bordercolor={{blue color dark}} |
name=Blake |
jname=ブレーク |
tmname=Blake |
slogan=no |
image=HeartGold SoulSilver Ethan.png|
size=250px|
caption=
[[Image:Ani157MS.png]][[Image:Ani065MS.png]][[Image:Ani130MS.png]][[Image:Ani149MS.png]][[Image:Ani169MS.png]][[Image:Ani448MS.png]]
|
age=yes|
years=17|
gender=Male |
|colors=yes
|eyes=Brown
|hair=Brown|
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]]|
game=yes |
generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|II}}, {{gen|III}}, {{gen|IV}} |
games={{v2|Blue}}, {{v2|Yellow}}, {{v2|Crystal}}, {{v2|FireRed}}, {{v2|Emerald}}, {{v2|Diamond}}, {{v2|Platinum}}, {{v2|HeartGold}}, |
leader=no}}
{| width="100%" style="background:#F8F8F8;" class="expandable"
|
'''Personal stuff'''
|-
|
{{User EST}}
{{User Male}}
{{User Brown Hair}}
{{User Birthday|January 7th}}
{{User Age|17}}
{{User Astrology|Capricorn}}
{{User Christian}}
{{User Windows|7}}
{{User Computer}}
|}
{| width="100%" style="background:#F8F8F8;" class="expandable"
|
'''Manga'''
|-
|
{{User Project Manga}}
{{User Manga|Pokémon Special volume 08 cover.jpg|Pokémon|Pokémon Special|FFFF55|66CCFF|CC3300}}
{{User Favorite Region|Johto|Johto Anime.jpg}}
{{User Favorite Character|Gold_HGSS.png|Gold|Gold|{{fire color}}|000(game)}}
|}
{| width="100%" style="background:#F8F8F8;" class="expandable"
|
'''Games'''
|-
|
{{User Shiny|130|Gyarados|Water|Flying}}
{{User Shiny|169|Crobat|Poison|Flying}}
{{User Blue}}
{{User Starter|001|Bulbasaur}}
{{User Yellow}}
{{User Crystal}}
{{User Starter|155|Cyndaquil}}
{{User Emerald}}
{{User Starter|252|Treecko}}
{{User FireRed}}
{{User Starter|001|Bulbasaur}}
{{User Diamond}}
{{User Starter|393|Piplup}}
{{User Platinum}}
{{User Starter|387|Turtwig}}
{{User Super Smash Bros. Brawl}}
{{User GSDS|1}}
{{User HeartGold}}
{{User Starter|155|Cyndaquil}}
{{User Walk|male|065|Alakazam|Psychic|Psychic}}
{{User Pokéwalker}} 
|}
</div>

== Pokémon ==
I started playing Pokémon with {{v|Blue}}, and then played {{v|Yellow}}, {{v|Crystal}}, {{v|Emerald}}, {{v|FireRed}}, {{v|Diamond}}, {{v|Platinum}}, and finally {{v|HeartGold}}. I collected a few TCG cards, but didn't do much with them. I also played a few side games such as [[Pokémon Snap]], [[Pokémon Stadium]], [[Hey You, Pikachu!]], [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokemon Mystery Dungeon]], and the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series.

=== Pokédex ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]][[User:Blake/Pokedex|My Pokédex]][[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]]</div>

I have made a page just to keep progress on my Diamond Pokédex. I can click on any Pokémon I dont have to see how to get them. It is a wonderful tool. You can check it out and see if I have any Pokemon you want.

=== My Team ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:Ani395MS.png]][[User:Blake/team|My Teams]][[Image:Ani395MS.png]]</div>

{{Party|color={{Steel color}}|bordercolor={{Steel color dark}}
|headcolor={{Steel color light}}
|sprite= Lucasplatinum.png
|prize={{pdollar}}10000
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name= Blake
|game={{g|Platinum}}
|location=Pokémon League
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=448|pokemon=Lucario
|gender=male|level=59|type1=Fighting|ability=Inner Focus|held=Exp. Share
|move1=Dragon Pulse|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Special
|move2=Force Palm|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aura Sphere|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Special
|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=149|pokemon=Dragonite
|gender=male|level=55|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus|held=Dragon Fang
|move1=Slam|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Aqua Tail|move2type=Water|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Rush|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=487|pokemon=Giratina
|gender=|level=48|type1=Ghost|type2=Dragon|ability=Pressure|held=Razor Claw
|move1=Ominous Wind|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Special
|move3=Dragon Claw|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Shadow Force|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=006|pokemon=Charizard
|gender=female|level=78|type1=Fire|type2=Flying|ability=Blaze|held=Scope Lens
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Focus Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=395|pokemon=Empoleon
|gender=male|level=84|type1=Water|type2=Steel|ability=Torrent
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Hydro Cannon|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Hydro Pump|move4type=Water|move4cat=Special}}
}}

{{Party|color={{fire color}}|bordercolor={{fire color dark}}
|headcolor={{fire color light}}
|sprite= HGSS Ethan.png
|prize={{pdollar}}93773
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name= Blake
|game={{g|HeartGold}}
|location=Cerulean City
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=130_f_s|pokemon=Gyarados
|gender=female|level=54|type1=Water|type2=Flying|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Strength|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water|move4cat=Special
}}|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=065_m|pokemon=Alakazam
|gender=male|level=58|type1=Psychic|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Special
|move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Psybeam|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special
}}|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=154_m|pokemon=Meganium
|gender=male|level=52|type1=Grass|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Cut|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Synthesis|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Frenzy Plant|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Rock Climb|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical
}}|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=157|pokemon=Typhlosion
|gender=male|level=52|type1=Fire|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flamethrower|move1type=Fire|move1cat=Special
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Lava Plume|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Shadow Claw|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical
}}|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=169_s|pokemon=Crobat
|gender=female|level=40|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Fly|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Poison Fang|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Physical
}}}}

== Bulbapedia ==
=== Projects ===
{{User Project Manga}}
[[PS095]] | [[PS096]] | [[PS097]] | [[PS098]] | [[PS099]] | [[PS100]] | [[PS101]] | [[PS102]] | [[PS103]] | [[PS104]] | [[PS105]] | [[PS106]] | [[PS107]] | [[PS108]]
{{User Project SpriteDex}}
I wont even try and list them, but an overall summary of what I am doing is making images Transparent.

[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blake You can check here for my contributions]

== Other ==
=== Pokémon Online ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:Ani491MS.png]][[Pokémon Online]][[Image:Ani491MS.png]] 
Pokémon Online is a project that was restarted January 2008 and is close to finishing. The forums are very active and have alot of awesome people.
I am on the graphics team and mapping team.</div>

User:Blake

2011-06-01T03:18:08Z

Blake: rm personal image :<

<div class=userbox>{{CharInfobox|
color={{blue color}} |
corecolor={{blue color light}} |
bordercolor={{blue color dark}} |
name=Blake |
jname=ブレーク |
tmname=Blake |
slogan=no |
image= |
size=250px|
caption=
[[Image:Ani157MS.png]][[Image:Ani065MS.png]][[Image:Ani130MS.png]][[Image:Ani149MS.png]][[Image:Ani169MS.png]][[Image:Ani448MS.png]]
|
age=yes|
years=17|
gender=Male |
|colors=yes
|eyes=Brown
|hair=Brown|
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]]|
game=yes |
generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|II}}, {{gen|III}}, {{gen|IV}} |
games={{v2|Blue}}, {{v2|Yellow}}, {{v2|Crystal}}, {{v2|FireRed}}, {{v2|Emerald}}, {{v2|Diamond}}, {{v2|Platinum}}, {{v2|HeartGold}}, |
leader=no}}
{| width="100%" style="background:#F8F8F8;" class="expandable"
|
'''Personal stuff'''
|-
|
{{User EST}}
{{User Male}}
{{User Brown Hair}}
{{User Birthday|January 7th}}
{{User Age|17}}
{{User Astrology|Capricorn}}
{{User Christian}}
{{User Windows|7}}
{{User Computer}}
|}
{| width="100%" style="background:#F8F8F8;" class="expandable"
|
'''Manga'''
|-
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{{User Project Manga}}
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== Pokémon ==
I started playing Pokémon with {{v|Blue}}, and then played {{v|Yellow}}, {{v|Crystal}}, {{v|Emerald}}, {{v|FireRed}}, {{v|Diamond}}, {{v|Platinum}}, and finally {{v|HeartGold}}. I collected a few TCG cards, but didn't do much with them. I also played a few side games such as [[Pokémon Snap]], [[Pokémon Stadium]], [[Hey You, Pikachu!]], [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokemon Mystery Dungeon]], and the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series.

=== Pokédex ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]][[User:Blake/Pokedex|My Pokédex]][[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]]</div>

I have made a page just to keep progress on my Diamond Pokédex. I can click on any Pokémon I dont have to see how to get them. It is a wonderful tool. You can check it out and see if I have any Pokemon you want.

=== My Team ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:Ani395MS.png]][[User:Blake/team|My Teams]][[Image:Ani395MS.png]]</div>

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|gender=male|level=58|type1=Psychic|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
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|move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Psybeam|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special
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|gender=male|level=52|type1=Grass|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Cut|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Synthesis|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
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|gender=female|level=40|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus
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== Bulbapedia ==
=== Projects ===
{{User Project Manga}}
[[PS095]] | [[PS096]] | [[PS097]] | [[PS098]] | [[PS099]] | [[PS100]] | [[PS101]] | [[PS102]] | [[PS103]] | [[PS104]] | [[PS105]] | [[PS106]] | [[PS107]] | [[PS108]]
{{User Project SpriteDex}}
I wont even try and list them, but an overall summary of what I am doing is making images Transparent.

[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blake You can check here for my contributions]

== Other ==
=== Pokémon Online ===
<div style="text-align: center;">[[Image:Ani491MS.png]][[Pokémon Online]][[Image:Ani491MS.png]] 
Pokémon Online is a project that was restarted January 2008 and is close to finishing. The forums are very active and have alot of awesome people.
I am on the graphics team and mapping team.</div>

Jenny (M08)

2011-05-08T14:00:29Z

Blake: Undo revision 1429161 by DrBrock (talk) partial revert. Still incomplete.

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'''Jenny''' (Japanese: '''ジェニー''' ''Jenny'') is an {{pkmn|anime}} character who appeared in ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]''.

Jenny is the servant to [[Queen Ilene]] of [[Rota]]. She made sure that {{Ash}} did his duty as Guardian of the Aura and remained in his seat and started the ceremony.

==Trivia==
===In other languages===
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Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure

2011-04-25T21:16:17Z

Blake: Undo revision 1419302 by Sludge (talk) And if it doesn't? Empty sections should not just be made because they need to be filled.

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{{Bulbanews|'Battle & Get! Pokémon Typing DS!' announced}}
(Japanese: '''バトル&ゲット！ポケモンタイピングDS''' ''Battle & Get! Pokémon Typing DS'') is the first [[Generation V]] [[spin-off Pokémon games|spin-off Pokémon game]].

==Gameplay==
The game is played with an attaching keyboard. The player will type a Pokémon's name in Rōmaji; the game uses {{wp|Nihon-shiki romanization}}s, not the trademarked ones. Its purpose is to teach Japanese children to type. As the player types the Pokémon's name in Rōmaji, they will catch it, hence the title. The game comes with a {{wp|Bluetooth}}-enabled {{wp|QWERTY}} keyboard that communicates with the game card, though players may also opt for a keyboard on the touch screen.

==Images==
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File:Pokémon Typing DS Boxart.png|Boxart (including keyboard)
File:BGpre1.jpg|Battling {{p|Zorua}}
File:BGpre2.jpg|Three Pokémon standing on the first letters of their romanized Japanese names
File:BGpre3.jpg|Battling {{p|Scyther}}
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[[fr:Battle & Get! Pokémon Typing DS]]
'''Bold text'''

Unova Pokédex

2011-03-02T16:15:30Z

Blake: Redirected page to List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number

#redirect [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number]]

Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2

2011-02-28T21:23:39Z

Blake: /* Mythical Pokémon */

[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1|Archive #1]]

== WTF? ==

Giratina controls dimensions? That's stupid... can somebody remove that? Time and Space (depth, lengh and width) are the freaking dimensions everyone! So Giratina has more power than both Dialga and Palkia? I think not. Remember that Giratina lives in the Distortion World... a place that disobeys the laws of Time and Space. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

There are 2 types of dimensions, matematical, which you were talking about, and spacial, which would be under Giratina's control. If you don't belive me, look up "Plane (metaphysics)" on Wikipedia. The dimensions that Giratina controls are '''alternate planes of exictence''', also called '''dimensions'''!- ''unsigned comment from {{u|GuyNamedSean}} ([[User talk:GuyNamedSean|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GuyNamedSean|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:It seems that Giratina can control gravity, or atleast that is how I enterpreted the explanation of its form shift. It also makes some sense because gravity could be considered a third factor in time-space [[User:Enigmaberry|Enigmaberry]] 02:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

:I agree with hfc2X, this needs to be changed. It was never officially stated anywhere that Giratina controls dimensions or anything at all, really. If you guys are going to write up fan speculation, you can at least, you know, actually make a note of that. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:An additional note, after editing the page a few times I noticed that only established users are allowed to make changes, my mistake there. Still, this needs to be changed for accuracy. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::You do realize that this talk section is from BEFORE Platinum was released in English, right? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with anything? Whether it's from one day or even five years ago, it doesn't change the fact that a change still needs to be made. As an encyclopedia, this doesn't need fanon crap. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Because Platinum confirmed it. Duh. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Prove it, then. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Disprove it, then. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::It is also said in the Distortion World by Cyrus about Giratina's control over dimensions...I'm way, way ahead of that, otherwise I'd give you the exact quote.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::My bad. I forgot. Giratina can't go between dimensions, or drag people into the Distorted World, or anything like that. Sorry. I guess it has no real power. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Spare me the reverse psychology, Sol, you said that Platinum confirmed it and I'm telling you to point to me where that was specifically confirmed. You're the one making false claims, not me. It was never stated that Giratina controls dimensions, this is FAN SPECULATION which is something that Bulbapedia frowns on if I'm not mistaken. At least it's something they should be frowning upon. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If you can't prove that it hasn't been proved, then it's useless to try and say that it's fan speculation. PsychicRider has confirmed it, so no, it's not fan speculation. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Quit acting like a politician and disprove it. You're avoiding what somebody tells you that goes against what you're trying to say. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sol, you're the one who's in a position to prove something, not me. I basically asked "Where was that confirmed?" and you've yet to answer that question. I would like the specific quote of Cyrus stating this, though, as I don't recall it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::I'm way past that, as in Battle Frontier past, but I do remember that it is confirmed from Cyrus's dialogue. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::So I'm apparently supposed to conveniently be at the point in time where Cyrus says that specific quote. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 03:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::No, this isn't a perfect quote, but: "Hmm... so Giratina disappeared into the real world... it doesn't matter. I'll capture it, and then I'll use the dimensional powers of Giratina to form a new world here and destroy the real one." '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I believe that's the quote I was looking for...boys, we have our proof. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::In that case (if that was explicitly stated), I stand corrected. Thanks. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Don't mention it. It only took me 30 minutes to think of. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:Not to sound like a broken record here, but I've just gotten through the Distortion World on my second run-through and Cyrus doesn't make that statement anywhere. I even saved right before the battle with Giratina to see what Cyrus would say in both scenarios (catching Giratina or defeating it), but the dialogue only changes slightly and there's still no explicit mention of it having control over dimensions. Besides, aren't space and time dimensions as well? Judging from some of the official interviews on Giratina I've just read, I'm more inclined to say that Giratina simply controls antimatter. If I'm not mistaken, antimatter IS considered to be the third factor out of time and space, after all. I propose that we take "dimensions" out of the sentence. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 08:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched a Youtube video and saw the same thing. But no. Dimensions isn't coming out. The descriptions aren't just for the games, but also the anime/movies you have to remember. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== Bubbly Mew ==

Wherever I go, whatever I read that's about Mew or the first movie, it says something like "The Bubbly Mew appeared in the first move", or something like that. Now, why is it called "Bubbly Mew" and why is it just the Mew in the first movie? And where did that term of Bubbly Mew ever come from?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 22:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe it's that the Mew in the first movie enjoyed making bubbles. [[user:Simpsonsdude13| SD13 Simpsondude13>''']][[user talk:Simpsonsdude13|SD13 Talk]] 20:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
==Phione?==
Does Phione really count? And why not Unown? I always thought of the symbols as legends. Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic
:Phione counts because to get one you have to breed a legendary. Unown doesn't because it's extremely distant from any other legendary. Note the beasts and the birds. Sure they're separated by the powerhouses and events by Dratini and Larvitar's families, but they're next to each other and divided from the others by no more than three Pokémon. Unown has 50 down and 42 up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::So all legends have to be near each other in the pokedex? Since when? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 16:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, nobody would buy Unown being legendary, what with how they're found all over the place in the [[Ruins of Alph]], [[Tanoby Chambers]], and [[Solaceon Ruins]]. Trust me, in the time it takes to breed for one Phione, odds are one could catch 2 PC boxes entirely full of Unown (although there's no guarantee that all 28 forms would be included)...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can we really stop saying that Rayquaza is based on a Ziz ==

It really isn't. The closest thing we have to a bird whose wingspan is large enough to block out the sun is Lugia, atleast according to the accounts of an elderly NPC in Ecruteak city.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Groudon isn't a giant hippo...elephant...rhino...''thing''...—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::They are both based on the concept of these legendary creatures. Masters of the sky and land respectivly.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Info ==
Why is {{P|Rotom}} not a legendary?, I'm not complaining, I just want to know why.[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokemonguy1]] 18:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
: *[[Talk:Rotom_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Archive_1|slaps with a wet Magikarp]]* Archives are your friends. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

because it doesn't have monster stats--[[User:Pokemongirl1|PG1 FTW!]] 15:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:Neither does {{p|Phione}}, and yet it's still a Legendary. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

::That's because {{p|Manaphy|a legendary is needed to obtain it}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 19:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Just a reminder that this is a forums topic.... o_0 Go there, peeps. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

All you need to do to catch it is to press a on a tv during night time. to get a phione, like it was said before, you need to have manaphy and breed it. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) 23:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Rotom can breed; legendary Pokemon cannot. Manaphy being the exception but it's more of a 'novelty' that it produces Phione when it lays an egg. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 03:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon group picture ==

I made this: [http://student-kmt.hku.nl/~abel1/PF2pictures/Legendary%20Pok%e9mon.jpg]

I think it'll be nice if it was placed in this article, next to (or instead of) that Entei pic.

Greetz,
Abel
:It's nice really but the thing is that the Johto legends will be getting new artworks soon and, maybe, the admins might not like the signature on the upper right. Also, Deoxys is actually shorter than Mewtwo. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::Just a reminder that fan art, I think, is generally frowned on. While that is very impressive, we can't use it here. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Latios and Latias ==

So I know that the current pic is better than the last, but I'm pretty sure it's {{tt|fan made.|Copyright info doesn't make it official... it only makes the claim that somebody owns the rights to characters...}} And we aren't supposed to have fan pics on pages. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Are you sure about that? That's the same font the Pokémon Company uses, it's in Sugimori's style, ''and'' it has his {{wp|Seal (East Asia)|hanko}} on it...—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::{{tt|Who's the girl though?|forgot about this since the database was locked at the time...}} '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Beats me. But that's definitely official. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Latios and Latias should be jhoto legendaries because the movie takes place in jhoto.
[[User:JetanHertz13|JetanHertz13]] 00:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
::That's... nice? If you join in a conversation that's like... 5 months old, at least add something important. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 00:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Latios and Latias appear in a Johto-era movie because they needed to hype up Hoenn. Der. The Eon duo don't even appear in Johto in HGSS, they're roaming Kanto! And it's '''''JOHTO''''', not Jhoto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Since Heatran being the first with a variable gender is mentioned, shouldn't it be mentioned that they were the first legendaries to have genders? [[User:Goldenpelt|Goldenpelt]] 08:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Protection Error? ==

Isn't this page protected? I had no problem editing it, and I'm no admin. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 20:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:New users are blocked from editing (which, at the current state of the wiki does nothing). Only admins may move the page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ohhhhhhhhh... NOW I get it... --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 20:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia: Legendary Pokémon Themes ==

It should be noted that in the upcoming games, HeartGold and SoulSilver, that Lugia and Ho-Oh now both have their own, distinct themes in the upcoming games. It was confirmed on the "never before seen footage" on Pokémon Sunday where they revealed meeting Lugia and Ho-Oh in the games. :) From the small clips you can hear, Ho-Oh's theme seems to be very Japanese-percussion based (taiko drums) and Lugia's is very orchestral-dramatics based. {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

I wonder if it's also pertinent to mention that the legendary beasts in HG/SS technically have their own unique themes, as well - or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that they have their own unique remixes of a theme. Either way, their battle music in HG/SS is not shared (identically, at any rate) with any other Pokemon. --[[User:Xatni|Xatni]] 01:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Xatni

== New article ==
Since the Legendary Trios and Duos have articles, should the Legendarys without a group (Trio Master's not included) get there own article too? {{unsigned|Blackstone Dresden}}

:If you mean Legendaries like {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Celebi}}, and {{p|Manaphy}}, then no. What would we write that isn't already on their own pages? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus HGSS pic ==

[[Image:Arceus - HGSS Event Artwork.jpg|thumb|left|150px]]
 How about adding it? -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

If I could, I would!--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀

:I didn't place that one since one for the Azure Flute event would be better. It would be similar to Darkrai and Shaymin. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

::I'll put it in for now. We can always change it when the Flute event gets its own artwork. We're using the HGSS Beasts artwork aren't we? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit! ==
I can't edit, but one of you should include that they can be found in Sinnoh.--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀

== "Legendary" ==
Is the term "legendary" an official descriptor or one applied by the fandom? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Its official. It appears in the games, anime, and all sorts of sources. It even appears in some Pokédex entries. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I've been playing Blue and the first instance of the term "legendary Pokemon" is on Route 14 by a Bird Keeper, for future reference. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==[[Arcanine]]==
"If you were looking for the "Legendary Pokémon" species, see Arcanine (Pokémon). "
Why does it say that? What does it have to do with anything [[User:Qim1|Qim1]] 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Arcanine's [[species]] name is "Legendary Pokémon". In comparison, Bulbasaur's is "Seed Pokémon". Just on the off-chance that someone thinks Arcanine is actually a Legendary Pokémon, in the sense meant on this page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Arcanine is considered as legendary in Chinese... since many [[Pokédex]] entries says Arcanine is from China.[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 07:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==Pokemon of Legend, Illusion, and Myth==
Is there any source for these categories of legendaries? The main paragraph suggests the Japanese versions identify legendaries differently that was narrowed for translation... What Pokemon are in these various categories, and why? What exactly do the Japanese versions say? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Slowpoke/king==
This may meet with some dissent, but would Slowpoke or Slowking qualify under "Other Pokemon of myth"? Slowpoke is pretty dominantly featured in GSC and HG/SS, as well as the corresponding anime episode, as the savior of Azalea in time of need. He's practically worshiped there. I don't believe this story was ever explicitly stated as fact, but rather as a cultural legend of sorts. That means Slowpoke is featured in a legend, and so possibly counts as a low-tier legendary like Arcanine of Togepi.

Slowking may same to fit the position more, but the extent of its qualification are the second movie. I don't know if human speech, a knowledge of ancient prophecies, and a role in that prophecy coming true/being resolved counts as a legendary, but should also be considered.

So, what are the opinions on counting on or both as minor legendaries? I'll agree to any consensus, but just thought it would be worth bringing up since Slowpoke does garner some "It's a legendary" statements from time to time. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:Pastoria worships Croagunk. Does that mean it's a minor legendary too? Slowpoke, as far as I know, only gets mentioned as legendary [[User:TTEchidna/Slopoke (that i ran into the other day)|when people are being sarcastic]].--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 00:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::I was unaware of Croagunk's position in that area, though that does get me thinking... Slowpoke, Croagunk, and possibly some of the "Other Pokemon of myth" featured here might do well on a "Pokemon of cultural significance" kind of article. I expect gen 5 will introduce at least one new Pokemon that is treated similarly to these two, so at that time it might be feasible to make such an article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We need more than two Pokémon of culutral significance to make it an article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Which is why I suggested waiting until gen 5 when another Pokemon may be featured. But, as it stands now, Arcanine, Ninetails, and the Togepi line are strong candidates for such an article. Note that "legendary" is as much a fan-term as a canon one, so creating a corollary term for culturally-significant Pokemon would be ideal as well as alleviate the constant arguing about who is and isn't a legendary, when frankly many of the supposed legendaries ''would'' make more sense in a culture article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Unique Pokemon ==

: So which Pokemon exactly are "unique" besides Mewtwo? I'm just curious. Also, has it ever been '''confirmed''' that Mewtwo is unique? [[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRox''']] 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well he is the first cloned legendary, first created legendary. But that's probably speculation.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Mewtwo is a special case. He's not even a "legendary" in the in-universe sense (no associated legends), only in the fanon sense. Discussing what other Pokemon are "unique" is beating a dead horse, since it's been done before and there's no way we can no for sure. Looking at it one way, nearly every Pokemon is unique, but in another way there's room for multiplies. Who knows? As for created Pokemon akin to Mewtwo, I'm sure that area will be explored at some point. Come gen 5, all the loose strings will be tired up. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::: I believe we could safely say that Arceus is unique. [[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRox''']] 05:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::: Arceus is the personification of a concept. There could very well be more than one, with each being an avatar of an incomprehensible concept. It's called pantheism. Hindis practice it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 05:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hindu's you moron, hindi is the language they speak in india!--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 05:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Does it really matter? And the term "Hindi" also applies to Hindu literature and culture. Religion/mythology is within the scope of culture, so there you go. I know my use of language. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 05:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I thought it was polytheism. Anyways, in Hinduism concepts, gods are an aspect of Brahmna, the eternal being, which could be what Arceus could be based on, with the three major aspects of Brahma being legendary trios. Though I doubt this because Nintendo is based in Japan and not India. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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The non-uniques are:
*Mew ([[Mewtwo Strikes Back]] & [[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]])
*Lugia ([[The Power of One]], [[Silver (Johto)|Silver]], and possibly Movie 13)
*Regirock, Regice, Registeel ([[Brandon's Regis]] & [[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]])
*Regigigas ([[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]] & [[DP129]])
*Lati@s ([[Pokémon Heroes]])
*Deoxys ([[Destiny Deoxys]])
*Manaphy ([[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]])
*Phione ([[DP113]])
*Darkrai ([[The Rise of Darkrai]] and [[DP104]])
*Shaymin ([[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]])

Uknown, yet debateable:
*Cresselia - If there's more than one Darkrai, why not Cresselia?
*Heatran - Only one has appeared so far, and even then, it was in the distant past.
*Jirachi - It came from space. We don't know if more are out there like Deoxys and Clefairy.
*The legendary birds - Unlike the beasts, we don't know if there were only 3 specifically created, although it is probable that they're unique.
*The legendary beasts- Although we know that Ho-Oh created 3 from the ashes of Pokémon, Suicune has appeared multiple times and sometimes in different regions. It has appeared in 3 episodes of the anime and one movie. The Entei in [[Spell of the Unown]] was only an illusion created by the Unown.

Unique:
*Mewtwo - It isn't actually a legendary in the anime, just a bad clone of one.
*Ho-Oh - Even though its counterpart, Lugia, is known to be able to have offspring, Ho-Oh seems to be a single Pokémon that travels around.
*Celebi - Although many appeared in [[Pokémon 4Ever]], they were the same Celebi, just from different time periods. The past and future came together in the present.
*Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza - Kyogre and Groudon have appeared in the Team Magma and Team Aqua arc, and Kyogre has appeared in a movie or two. Rayquaza could be argued as having more than one in its species, but it is most likely the only one.
*Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit - They were created by Arceus to keep Dialga and Palkia in balance.
*Dialga and Palkia - They are the keepers of time and space.
*Giratina - It is the guardian of the Reverse World, an distorted mirror of the Pokémon world. Although it could be argued that because mirror dimensions exist, and there would be Reverse Worlds for each of these mirror dimensions, that is extremely technical and most likely won't be mentioned.
*Arceus - Creator of the Pokémon universe. Not much more to say about that.

If that doesn't clear some things up, I don't know what will. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, there is no way that Celebi would be the same Celebi from different time periods (as most of those Celebi [those supposedly from the future] would also not exist if that were the case, since it died.). As for Groudon and Kyogre, it was heavily implied in the end of Scuffle of Legends that they went to sleep again for another age-long rest (almost eternal), and it was also implied that the orbs are the only way they can awake, so it's more likely that Kyogre, at least, has multiples (since unless someone had bonded with the Blue Orb, then Kyogre should not awake, and thus not appear in Movie 9 if it's the same one.). Rayquaza was also implied to be captured by Team Rocket, and it won't make any sense that Rayquaza would be around the atmosphere if it can't get out (which the scene of it's capture implies that it can't escape.) Dialga and Palkia, did they even recognize Ash and co. when they appeared in the Team Galactic Two-Parter? If not, they're definitely not one of a kind, and since Giratina is also part of the same trio, that means it has to have multiples as well. For the Three Pixies, if there are more than one Dialga and Palkia, there are definitely going to be more than one Pixie Trio. So far, the only pokemon to be completely confirmed to be one of a kind without a doubt is Mewtwo. If Arceus somehow appears later on and doesn't even recognize Ash and Co, then it's safe to say that Arceus is also not one of a kind. As for Ho-Oh, let's wait until Movie 13 before we can say that it's one of a kind (If it doesn't recognize Ash, then it's safe to say it's not one of a kind.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

::Wow. I wasn't asking for a "Your wrong, stupid." type of response. We're trying to clear things up, not get into a fight. But since you want an argument for my point... For Celebi, the concept of time in the Pokémon universe, both games and movies, isn't immediate. In PMD2, you don't disappear right away. You still have like, a minute before you start to go away after correcting time. In Movie 12, it took forever for Ash and co. to nearly disappear, which they didn't. Celebi would have enough time to come back to heal itself. And who said it died anyways? It would also know when it would need to heal itself since it's a time travellor, and has basically the same powers that Dialga has, except they're not as massively powerful. There also isn't more than one Palkia, Dialga, or Arceus, as they're the only ones that are in existance. Dialga lives in a dimension outside of time, and Palkia controls all dimensions, except for Dialga's and Arceus'. It doesn't really matter if Palkia and Dialga recognize Ash and co. in the anime, because the anime =/= the movies. And from what I can tell, they don't do anything anyways. Cyrus captures them, and then the Lake trio free them and they go away. And there isn't more than one of each of the Lake trio, because there's... wait for it... ''three'' lakes for the ''three'' Lake guardians, and ''three'' {{tt|gifts|emotion, willpower, knowledge}} to humans. And so what if it appears that Team Rocket has Rayquaza? That was only in the intro to Movie 9 to show that there's evil in the Pokémon world. As for Groudon and Kyogre, again, anime =/= movies. Can't stress that enough. Those anime episodes were directly based off of R/S. There isn't any movie that's based specifically off of any part of a game. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

:::If Anime=/=Movies, then you shouldn't have even cited the movies in the first place (In other words, you shouldn't have cited Darkrai's appearances, as well as the other Legendary Pokémons appearances.). As for who said it had died, the mere fact that even the newly purified healing spring wasn't able to heal it implied that it had died. And for the record, I wasn't calling you stupid nor even implying that you were. And another thing, just because there are three lakes in Sinnoh that hold the pixie trio does not mean that there cannot be more than one Pixie trio. It was earlier implied that there was only one Mew left in existance, yet it was later made clear that there were actually two mews. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Isn't there more than one Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina because of every Gen. IV game having them, but in different ways. HeartGold and SoulSilver has Arceus create one on the spot while DPPt has one already there. Doesn't that mean they are debatable? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::I really don't think any of this matters actually. The only part that talks about unique legendaries, other than that one sentence, is the bottom where it lists the different in-battle music. I would say more, except I know Mchairybug will contradict everything I say. That's why I've stopped talking about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

===Definitively===
We can only say without a doubt that Mewtwo is unique in the anime. Arceus, the dragon trio, and the lake trio are presumed due to their link to the universe's creation. The rest, we can't say definitively, though we can more or less assume there's been only one Ho-Oh we've ever seen (Ash indicates it), and the weather trio's important roles also seem to point to there being only one of each.

Also, don't, ''don't'' think in the game sense in the anime. Also, the movies are canon, Ash-haters, find another thing he's not worthy of to rip on him for... like Gible or something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

It's notable though that in "Mewtwo Strikes Back" Mew is refered in the single sense by many trainers(Such as saying "Mewtwo was cloned from Mew" instead of "Mewtwo was cloned from A Mew"). It could be that this Mew is ether the last one of the Mew kind, or just the Mew that's DNA was used to make Mewtwo. It's impossible to say though, since the movie never expands on this fact.--[[User:Dsman195276|Dsman195276]] 04:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Wobbuffett in the trivia section ==
Wobbuffett is not a legendary, but it along with Garchomp are the only non-legendary pokémon to be considered uber in competitive battling {{unsigned|Rocklee clone}}
:Unofficial tiers of competitive battling is irrelevant to this article. There's no need to mention Wobbuffet here. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia; Other languages ==

So, I was looking on the French analog site (Poképédia) and noticed that there are only six legendaries that have had their name changed. (As far as I can tell, only a few of the non legendary pokémon retain the same english name.) They are: Zapdos (Électhor), Moltres (Sulfura), and Articuno(Artikodin); and Azelf(Créfadet), Mesprit(Créfollet), and Uxie(Créhelf).
Does this count as trivia?--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 00:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:This is already mentioned in the article's trivia section.;)--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 01:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Whoops. Didn't see that.--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 06:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== In Game Re-battle ==

I know from elsewhere on this site that (in HGSS at least) if the legendary beasts are KO'd in battle, they can be 'revived' and battled again (for example, if you KO suicune, it'll keep reapearing in Burnt Tower until it's caught). I was just wondering which other legendaries can also be rebattled if they're KO'd? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 23:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:I believe it is any Pokémon that appears as a one-time capture, and you have to (re)battle the Elite Four in order to reset them. I know it works on Sudowoodo. On a similar note, I would like to know if its nature, IVs, etc. are reset when it reappears, particularly in regard to the roaming Pokémon. Giratina's stats were reset in Platinum. --[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 19:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Champion Cynthia's team. ==

Did anyone else notice the groupings in http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon#Other_Pok.C3.A9mon_of_myth ?

Out of the eleven bullet points on that list, Cynthia uses pokemon from five points, exactly one pokemon for each of those five points.
The groupings aren't exactly hewn in stone, though, so it's hardly trivia worthy. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 09:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Reshiram and Zekrom ==

{{u|MAGNEDETH}} made the completely understandable decision to lock down this page to curb speculation, but Reshiram and Zekrom are confirmed to be legendaries by the Japanese site: http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/top.html [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 20:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll be adding them later on. This whole damn page has been in cleanup for a couple months now, but I've been distracted. I'll finish editing it tomorrow and finally add them, under a Generation V header, tomorrow. Er. Today. I guess. It's early. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:19, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark? ==

Should Zoroark be in Other Pokémon of myth?? Or do we need to wait till the movie has actually premiered so we know exactly what he/she/it is or done?
:Wait till the movie comes out. We don't know much about Zoroark's role, yet. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::Again, likely to be at least mentioned when I finish my cleanup of this damned thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Is the fact that both Zorua and Zoroark event-''only'' sufficient to declare them Legendary? I'm not sure, but I believe that all pokémon available ''only'' through events are Legendary. I'm honestly not sure, however, if that is distinction enough for to be considered Legendary. [[User:Lostdrewid|Lostdrewid]] 07:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a bit too soon to say that it is definitely a legendary. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm not convinced it is, though. Are they not, by definition, 幻のポケモン? They're almost even more illusory than Mew, Celebi and the like - not only are they event-only, but you need to attend said event ''prior to the launch of the games''. I ask this honestly, but... if that isn't the very picture of a Legendary Pokémon, what is? If what they are is not sufficient to be declared Legendary, then perhaps the article will need a tighter definition. Please do not misunderstand me, I'm not simply trying to be a nag [although I apologize, I realize I must sound like I am], I'm asking specifically because it seems to be that the status of these two is sort of at the crux of the definition of what it means to be Legendary and thus relevant, one way or another, to the article.
:::::Let me see if I can word my thoughts better. The article discusses the definition of Legendary at the introduction, before the TOC; the first section mentions common characteristics of being Legendary. What we have for these two matches the definition provided in the introduction; what we ''don't'' have for these two is a match, or lack of a match, with the common characteristics. Regardless of whether we are ultimately "right" about their Legendary status, if we say we don't have enough information to declare them Legendary, then maybe should the common characteristics [or some of them, whichever are truly defining] be considered as a part of the definition and moved to the introduction of the article?
:::::My goal here is ''not'' simply to see that Zorua and Zoroark be placed on the article. My goal is to see the article improve. I know, I know, it's a Featured Article and thus is considered awesome by the community - because, well, it is:) - but that doesn't mean that even an awesome article has no room to grow. In my original comment, I said plainly, I don't know whether being event only is sufficient to be called Legendary... but I ''shouldn't'' not know. Does that make sense?
:::::I'm sorry that I'm not good with words. I fear I'm going to be misunderstood here. Text only shows so little of meaning that misunderstandings are simple. I'm not trying to be critical, I'm not trying to say the article is bad. It not only isn't bad, I'll happily reiterate that it's awesome. But ultimately, if the legendary status of these two Pokémon is still in question, then the article's definition of legendary needs tightening. [[User:Lostdrewid|Lostdrewid]] 16:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::TTE, let me also say that in no way are the arguments I've presented mean I am impatient to see the article updated. I completely understand that you're not a machine whose sole job in life is to update this site :) If this page is not updated until long after B&W comes out, I will not be upset. My sole desire is to see the article be as good as it can be. I feel that I do not have the proper words to contribute directly, even if the article was unlocked, so this is the only way that I feel I ''can'' contribute right now. [[User:Lostdrewid|Lostdrewid]] 17:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I'd like to know where it's been confirmed that Zorua and Zoroark are ''only'' obtainable through the special events in BW? For all we know, Zorua and Zoroark will also be able to obtained in-game by normal means (wild encounter, NPC gift, etc.), it's just that the event ones are special for whatever reason.
:::::::Unless Spiky-eared Pichu is considered legendary now. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone inform me why Zoroark/Zorua isn't counted a legendary? Thanks. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 18:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's not at the end of the dex (Victini does not count) and it evolves from another Pokemon [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

==plagiarism?==

I fear that content from this page has been copied onto this page. http://pokemonorg.wetpaint.com/page/Groups+of+Legendary+Pokemon
and maybe loads of other original bulbapedia content has been hoarded. can any one look into this?mods?admins? {{unsigned|AGGRON999}}
:Thanks, I'll take a look into it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Even if the articles are original the images are taken directly from Bulbapedia and in fact link here when one clicks on the image.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 05:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the links go here too. I've spoken with the site owner and he's yet to get back to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks. :D

== Huh? ==

Um, actually, Heatran is ''not'' the only legendary Pokémon with a variable gender. There's also Spiritomb. --[[User:Jade 2010|Green Jade]] 20:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:Spiritomb isn't legendary.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Well then why is Spiritomb so hard to obtain? --[[User:Jade 2010|Green Jade]] 20:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:Feebas isn't a legendary, but it's almost equally hard to obtain as Spiritomb... they just choose to make some Pokemon difficult to obtain, and some easy to obtain. Adds variety, you know? ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 21:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, Spiritomb are able to breed. Just sayin' [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 03:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== SIX Legendaries changed names? ==
Uxie's name is the same in Japanese and English; the lack of Y is just localization and doesn't affect pronunciation (it's no more different - in fact, less so - than Lucario being "Rukario" in Japanese). However, the article says ''six'' legendary Pokemon changed names (the other five, of course, being Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mesprit, and Azelf.) --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 09:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, Uxie shouldn't count.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 09:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::Except Lucario's Japanese name is Lucario, it's just spelled as Rukario in katakana. Yuxie>Uxie isn't any less of a change than Dodorio>Dodrio, Donfan>Donphan, or Chicorita>Chikorita. If anything, Houou>Ho-oh and Crecelia>Cresselia should be counted as well. --[[User:Goldenpelt]] 01:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I gotta agree there... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree about the Lucario comparison. Uxie's Katakana name is Yukushii, not Yuxie, so it's not the same thing. But it does seem a bit silly to say that they are different names if they are pronounced the same. When they design the official romanji names they aren't thinking about the English audience, so of course it makes sense to change the spelling if they think it helps people of that audience pronounce it correctly. It's still the same name. --[[User:CrimsonChin|CrimsonChin]] 17:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== Victini ==

Shouldn't this little creature be added? Id add it, but alas, I am not allowed *cries*. Or are we awaiting more information on it? --[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 11:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's been added... I just improved some things. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Mewtwo and Mew's "Unique Battle Music" ==

I really don't think this point should be in the trivia section; isn't that same re-mixed Kanto music used for the birds and, in FR/LG, for the beasts as well? The music for the weather trio and the elemental Regis is more unique than that.[[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 16:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:They're different remixes. Mewtwo's remix I ''think'' is used for Ho-Oh and Lugia in FRLG, in that event no one got anywhere. Mew's is a completely different remix. The legendary birds also have a different remix. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== Uniqueness in the games ==

In the trivia section it says "In the games, there appears to only be one of every legendary Pokémon", however that's not entirely true. There's only one you can catch, but I've seen a Zapdos and a Heatran in the Battle Hall in Platinum. --[[User:CrimsonChin|CrimsonChin]] 17:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Add {{template|-}} before every generation header. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 22:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not having any issues, and I'm using a standard monitor. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== Capitalization ==

*A [http://www.pokemon.com/us/games/videogame-pokemon-ranger-guardian-signs/ recent page] on Pokémon.com mentions it as "Legendary Pokémon," not "legendary Pokémon" (with a capital L). I haven't looked yet, but do other things (games, manga, cards, sites, etc.) mention the term as such? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Takuto ==
I think it's important to include an exmaple Takuto has two legendary Pokemon under the "anime" section, and no ramifications were apparent as a result of him possessing legendary Pokemon. {{unsigned|Datonyp1}}

== Split? ==
With Gen V being released very soon, don't you think this entry might get a bit too big? Perhaps we should split it by Generation. Although it might be somewhat of a shame though... [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== "Deer" (and where in the world is Victini?) ==

I think "deer" is a poor group name for that trio, seeing as the closest animals they resemble are the gazelle, the wildebeest, and the oryx{{tt|*|Okay, I'm actually guessing on this last one}}, all bovids. "Musketeers", while not as descriptive, is a lot less inaccurate, as it groups them by their running theme, and doesn't alienate Keldeo. 
On a different subject, shouldn't Victini have a paragraph in somewhere? --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 01:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== "Raijin" Trio ==
"Borutorosu, ''Torunerosu'', and Randorosu are a trio of Pokémon based on Japanese Raijin, gods of thunder and lightning"
Torunerosu is most likely based on Fuujin, god of wind {{unsigned|Vienna Waltz}}
:Instead of Raijin, which only applies to Boltros, why not Djinn Trio? They look the part.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 19:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::There's also Cloud Trio, seeing that's what they got for a lower half. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Trios are more often named after their overall appearance rather than a common feature. Speaking of which, I did some research and the djinns seem to take visual cues from {{wp|oni}} (Japanese ogre-demons), more notably their facial features and horns. So that'd leave us with the Djinn and Oni alternatives.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 22:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::"More often" doesn't mean "we should consider that first." Obviously the weather trio, lunar duo, Lake Guardians, tower duo all take what they're known for and uses those names. If they aren't djinn or demons in general, why refer to them as such (considering they're based on gods and nothing Middle Eastern)? Birds are birds, beasts are beasts, and Musketeers are French (otherwise, they might have been the Righteous Quartet). Call them the Kami trio, and you're way more accurate than Djinn. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sounds fair, but how descriptive is the word Kami? Not saying Oni was a better suggestion, in fact it suffers from the same problem of neither being widespread in use nor part of the game lore. Names like birds and beasts are simple and descriptive at the same time, because everyone knows what a bird is. Even the golem has been integrated into the general culture pool. Terms like Kami and Oni are known among the Otaku subculture, but once you step out of it, few people will look at the name and think of them. I don't know if Djinn has overcome the limits of the gaming subculture, but if that weren't the case, I'd be all for a name that did, such as ogre or genie.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kami itself is a broad term that encompasses "gods" with religious connotations. It's general enough that it's likely to have extended itself beyond Otakuism, and if not, one punch into Google gives the Wiki article on Kami as the first result. They're not based on genies or demons. They're based on Raijin, Fuujin, and Inari...which are Shinto gods. Kami. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:If we were to go for a specific god, wouldn't it make more sense to use Fuujin, as they're all part Flying-type? --[[User:Goldenpelt|Gοlden]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|pelt]] 23:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::It shouldn't be a specific god, only because they aren't all based around that god. The flying-type is because, yeah, they're gods and they fly. It's not specifically relative to Fuujin that they can. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
So now there's a page entitled [[Raijin trio]]. Is that really what we'll be calling them from now on? I thought the argument for calling them the Kami trio was the most convincing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 18:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:This is why I liked the wiki when it was locked. We could come to a consensus on sensitive stuff like legendary trio names ''before'' someone made the articles, such as the case with the trio of {{p|Reshiram}}, {{p|Zekrom}}, and {{p|Kyurem}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::'''They''', btw, could be the Tao Dragons. Yin, Yang, Wu? That's Taoism. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 21:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::Toa/Dao Dragons is a good idea. Yeah, I think Kami Trio (Or possibly a Nature Trio) is much better than singling out the first in the Pokedex as the name. [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 18:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== About Energy Dragon Trio ==
I can't edit talk page there so I make here, I found something on the name
ReshiRAM, ZekROM, KyuREM (RAM-ROM-REM)[[User:Arceus Vs Dragon Trio|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio]] 11:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Right...but what does 'RAM-ROM-REM' mean? Or is the "interesting" bit that all their names end it a consonent made of an R and M with a vowel in between> :-/ [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 03:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:RAM is random-access memory, REM is rapid eye movement and ROM is read-only memory?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::"REM, a keyword for an inline comment in some computer languages", so yeah [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] 12:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think he's just pointing out the name similarities. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Stat Averages ==
Would it be reasonable if someone added statistical averages like how each of the typings have? Just so we can get a good idea on what the average Legendary seems to have for stats? If anybody sees this as a good idea then how do I add it into the article? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 21:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:That would be a good idea. Add up each stat, divide by the number of legendaries and put them in {{template|BaseStatNoCat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks I'll add that when I get time to sometime tommorow. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 23:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Just posting the averages I got figured out here until I have all of them calculated (Note: Includes Alt Formes and Phione).
:::HP: 92.89

:::Attack: 86.11

:::Defense: 85.28

:::Special Attack: 124.45

:::Special Defense: 90.65

:::Speed: 99.72

:::So far I'm predicting high average Special based stats. Once I get everything else calculated I'll get the averages posted on the article, though while you posted the template for it I have absolutely no clue how to set it up. x-x Edit: Looks like I'm right about the Special part. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind about how to use them, used the Dragon Type page as a reference for these. Is it working correctly? Do I need to round them to whole numbers (The fully evolved averages for types displayed them like this though)?
===Statistical averages{{tt|*|Considering Alternate Formes as seperate Pokémon}}===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
HP=92.89 |
Attack=86.11 |
Defense=85.28 |
SpAtk=124.45 |
SpDef=90.65 |
Speed=99.72 }}
[[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 20:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Looking good. Feel free to incorporate that into the page when you're ready. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Can you get the bars to align to the right so that they are affecting in length by the numbers to the left of them? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 00:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Don't know how to set it up like that. Though I do have to redo the totals since Phione is know confirmed not to be a legendary, so I'll figure out how to do that when I get he chance. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I see, maybe you could move the bars all the way to the right? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

The article "Legendary Pokémon" has been a featured article for a while now. Doesn't anyone think it should give another article a chance? [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 18:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, there are plenty other articles out there? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 19:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah. Does anybody else agree? [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 19:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Feel free to [[BP:FAC|nominated one]]. There is no limit to how many featured articles Bulbapedia can have. As long as this one is still high quality, it will stay featured and we will add more to the list. (Which reminds me, I need to close the current nominations.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

== Mythical Pokémon ==
With the commercials for Victini airing now, as well as the Celebi Distribution's page on the HeartGold and SoulSilver website, would it be a good guess to assume that TPCi considers Mythical Pokémon to be the translated term of "Illusory Pokémon"?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:Apparently, Mythical Pokémon is now used to refer to any legendary. [http://pokebeach.com/#legendary-pokemon-renamed-to-mythical-pokemon See here. I think a page moving might be in order.] - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::Makes sense since in the anime Dratini was specifically stated to be legendary so they gotta rename legendaries... xD [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 22:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Remember the Japanese games do actually use several different terms for 'legendary Pokémon'. It looks like the English translations are finally going to recognise that and do the same. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:10, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::::I agree on the move. If this is going to be standard, then we should change to reflect this. --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 23:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::At most I think there should be a redirect that leads here... >.> [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::Should be split. Reshizek are still legendary. The legendary Pokémon template should be divided, so it's one template, but maybe it should look like this:
|Legendary: Reshiram - Zekrom
Unova|
|Mythical: Victini - Other Stuff

[[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::::I... guess? Just as long as Victini and the others are not even ''once'' called legendary officially... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
:I believe Mythical Pokémon is now the official translation for '''幻のポケモン''', as Celebi, Victini, Arceus and many others are all official called 幻のポケモン by the official Japanese website, and Reshiram and Zekrom and many others are called 伝説のポケモン. Now Mythical Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon is different.--[[User:Swampert|Swampert]] 13:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::Well... seeing as how Bulbapedia ''is'' '''for''' fluff and unconfirmed info, I guess we might as well do this? By for I mean when told that something is fluff and unconfirmed people get called an idiot for not believing it to be true regardless of there being no proof of it whatsoever. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 22:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Victini was called a ''Mythical Pokémon'', while Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Reshiram and Zekrom are still being called ''Legendary Pokémon''. Probably, they finally split the classification, like in Japanese: '''Legendary Pokémon''' (伝説のポケモン ''densetsu no Pokémon'') and '''Mythical Pokémon''' (幻のポケモン ''maboroshi no Pokémon''). - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::I feel at this point in time it is time to restate what Dratini was called, 伝説のポケモン, Legendary Pokémon. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:42, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I for one vote that event Pokémon should be moved to Mythical Pokémon due to TCPi using a new term for the Pokémon that is given out by event.Anyone agree on this ? [[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 23:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It seems that's it. Event Legendaries were called ''maboroshi'' in Japanese and now they got their own classification in English... because Celebi and Arceus are being called ''Mythical'', too. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
:Ah so then are we moving Dratini to Legendary Pokemon status? Since that is what it is called? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 00:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::Once, in the anime, ages ago. I'm talking about the recent, official use. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 00:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::More like twice if you count Dragonite, but when it was called that does not change the fact it was called that. Also, how is the anime unofficial? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Was the Dratini line ever actually called "legendary" or such using the Japanese terms? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 01:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well... not Dragonair specifically... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay this is driving me crazy, do we have any real confirmation that the new term is Mythical Pokemon or that the two will be used seperately? Why can't we wait 'till the games come out and if all of the 'legendaries' are called Mythical Pokémon, then <s>I'm going to have to kill someone</s> we can move it. If only some of them are called Mythical and some of them are Legendary, then we will have to rethink our classification of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon (what makes one legendary and the other mythical. Hopefully, they'll all stay as legendaries and we can move on with our lives. :P --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 02:09, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:Considering the current events... Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Reshiram and Zekrom '''were deemed Legendary'''; Victini, Celebi and Arceus '''were deemed Mythical'''. Pretty simple to me: normal gameplay ones are Legendaries, event-exclusive ones are Mythical. Just like Japanese ''densetsu'' and ''maboroshi''. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 02:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::''By that logic'', Dratini and Dragonite '''were deemed Legendary''', just saying. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 10:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Okay, like it or not Dratini and Dragonite are not legendary. Dragonite is [[Pseudo-legendary]] but that's as close as they get. On the other note, I'd say wait 'till the games come out in a week or two before making any bold descisions. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh hey I agree, thank you for understanding my point, Dratini and Dragonite are not legendary just because they were called that, exactly why just because someone calls a couple pokemon mythical instead of legendary does not automatically make them not legendary but a new subtype of legendary called mythical. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

=== Victini, Celebi, and Arceus ===
*I've been to the mall tour and in the "Introduction to Unova" that they show before entering the "Video Game Experience" area, the Narrator says, "Wow! It's ''the Mythical Pokémon Victini''! They say it has the power to bring victory." as Victini appears on the screen. And on the 13th page of the Tour Book given out during the mall tour about the distribution of the [[Liberty Pass]], it identifies Victini as ''the Mythical Pokémon Victini'' twice.

*Celebi is referred to as ''the Mythical Pokémon Celebi'' on [http://www.pokemon.com/us/ Pokémon.com], linking to a [http://www.pokemongoldsilver.com/us/#/news/celebi/ page] about Celebi's distribution at the mall tours and at Game Stop. On that page it refers to Celebi as ''the Mythical Celebi''. At the bottom of the same page, upon click the '6', it refers to the Celebi that the player receives from the deliveryman after it is distributed, as ''the Mythical Pokémon'', rather than just 'Celebi'.

*In an [http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/anim_movie12_dvd-2011-02-04/ announcement] about [[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]] going on DVD, it refers to Arceus as ''the Mythical Pokémon Arceus''.

Mythical Pokémon are most likely Pokémon that can only legitimately be obtained through distributions since this is true for Victini, Celebi, and Arceus, alike.

If my assumption turns out to be correct, all of the following Pokémon are those who I believe will likely be considered Mythical Pokémon:

*{{p|Mew}}
*{{p|Celebi}}
*{{p|Jirachi}}
*{{p|Deoxys}}
*{{p|Phione}} -- The fact that it can only be legitimately obtained by breeding a Ditto and a Manaphy, which the latter of can only legitimately be obtained through distributions, is enough for me to believe that Phione would be a Mythical Pokémon, in this case.
*{{p|Manaphy}}
*{{p|Darkrai}}
*{{p|Shaymin}}
*{{p|Arceus}}
*{{p|Victini}}
*{{p|Zorua}} -- Requires a fateful encounter Pokémon. Seems like good enough a reason to me.
*{{p|Zoroark}} -- Evolved form of an assumed-to-be Mythical Pokémon and requires fateful encounter Pokémon. Again, seems like good enough a reason.
*{{p|Keldeo}} -- Assumed to be available in the future via a distribution. Similar to Shaymin, Darkrai, and Arceus being kept secret at first.
*{{p|Meloetta}} -- Assumed to be available in the future via a distribution. Similar to Shaymin, Darkrai, and Arceus being kept secret at first.
*{{p|Genesect}} -- Assumed to be available in the future via a distribution. Similar to Shaymin, Darkrai, and Arceus being kept secret at first.

-- [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:I would like to disagree in a single point: I think Mythical Pokémon are ''Legendary'' Pokémon that can't be legitimately obtained in normal gameplay. So I disagree on Phione, Zorua and Zoroark, but definitely agree on the rest. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 01:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
::What about Victini? has Victini ever been officially called Legendary anywhere? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 02:02, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I would like to chime in here, and state that {{p|Dratini}}'s Red, Blue, Yellow, and LeafGreen Pokedex entries state that it is considered a "mythical Pokémon". '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Mana Ibe

2011-02-23T01:12:31Z

Blake:

[[File:Mana Ibe.jpg|thumb|right|220px|Mana Ibe in a 2011 interview]]
'''Mana Ibe''' (Japanese: '''井部真那''') is a graphic designer who has worked for the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] and video game series.

Ibe's first known involvement with the Pokémon franchise was designing a single card in the {{TCG|Arceus}} expansion pack: {{TCG ID|Arceus|Manectric|22}}. She was later listed in the [[staff of Pokémon Platinum]] under "Special thanks", although it is currently unknown exactly what role she played in the development of that game. In the [[staff of Pokémon Black and White]], she is listed under "Pokémon designer". This is a résumé shared by [[Keiko Moritsugu]] and [[Reiko Tanoue]], who both illustrated a single card from the Arceus expansion and are listed under the same roles in both sets of credits. Lately, Ibe appears to have acquired a large role within Game Freak; she has spoken with the media about {{game|Black and White|s}} on multiple occasions.

In [http://www.gametrailers.com/video/overview-interview-pokemon-black/710753 a 2011 interview with GameTrailers], she revealed that her favorite Pokémon is {{p|Herdier}}. In [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-22-the-brains-behind-pokemon-black-and-white-interview?page=2 another interview], it was shown that she designed {{p|Victini}}.

<gallery>
File:ManectricArceus22.jpg|Ibe's lone illustration
</gallery>

[[Category:TCG illustrators|Ibe, Mana]]
[[Category:Game cast and crew|Ibe, Mana]]

Template talk:Ash's Pokémon

2011-02-20T15:35:38Z

Blake: /* Separators */

== [[Ash's Primeape]] ==

I don't think that it is appropriate to consider him "in training" because [[Ash]]'s page says he is released, because he cannot be called upon at any time like [[Ash's Charizard|Charizard]] and [[Ash's Squirtle|Squirtle]] can. So, I am going to revert to the version by [[User:Pie|Pie]]. I know that in Spurt he appears with Ash's Oaked Pokemon, but he does not fit the definition of in training. [[User:Briememory|Briememory]] 20:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just because Ash never ''has'' called on Primeape doesn’t mean he can’t. In the dub, he leaves it to be trained into a P1 champion. Unless he specifically gives it away in the Japanese version, it is technically his Pokémon just as much as the other two. --WikidSmaht 22:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Aipom ==

Since we're pretty sure it evolves soon... what does everyone think of on Ash's template? He traded it as an Aipom, not Ambipom, so I think it should stay as "Aipom" on this template, but link to Dawn's Ambipom. Of course, this shall be WHEN the evolution happens. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think it should be Ambipom. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::It was always an Aipom under Ash, so I'm leaning towards that. The same should apply to Paul and Chimchar when that evolution happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 01:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

==[[Lara Laramie|Lara Laramie's]] Rapidash==

Since Ash used Lara's Rapidash for a race, should Rapidash go under Temporary with Seaking? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] ([[User talk:Chosen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chosen|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:That was borrowed for a competition. Ash never caught it or used it in battle. He just sat on it. I say it doesn't count [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 20:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Then shouldn't it be in a new section called 'Loaned to'?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Mankey... ==

Well, question. It links to a freaking disambig. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:What, I had it link to the {{p|Mankey}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Templates? ==

Wouldn't it be better to use [[Template:AP]] than [[Template:TP]]? I'm putting this on the talk page since I'm not sure if there was a specific reason for using this template and not the other... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 04:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:It should be AP. The reason it was done with TP is because the AP template didn't exist at the time (I know, cause I'm the one who did it...) Anyway, I'll change it now. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Maybe this should get locked. You know, the whole Chimmy thing. ==

I'd do it myself, but I was stripped of the ability to do so. :\ [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 16:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Squirtle ==

Why is that "in training"? It's not. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 00:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp ==

First time I saw it I really hated it, but it's kinda growing on me... Are we gonna use the Ash (electric) theme on all pages, or the Pokémon types? (as in, on Monferno's page for example, a fire background with light fighting title?) --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:Hmmm... actually, we should see about that. It's a good idea. Wait for me to progrum up the rest of the template (I'll do it in about 12 hours, actually) but... yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 15:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::The new character infobox and the VA tables give each character its own theme color. We should use that color on the trainer's page, and the Pokémon's types on the Pokémon pages. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 23:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This is getting too confusing already and it's not even finished yet. How about we turn the anisprites into regular sprites for the nonactive team members? And the "At Oak's" thing should be higher up, not at the middle row. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe if I put some sort of border around each level? And I'm keeping it with the ani overworlds until I get them all done, then I'll go with the MSes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, a border or line might work. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==Edit request==
Can someone make the overworld sprite of Noctowl shiny. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 09:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:It's not using the overworld sprite, and there are no shiny menu sprites. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::Don't worry. If it returns to his team, we have the overworld sprite ready. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Aah, I didn't notice those weren't overworld. I thought they just weren't animated. Are we updating the rest of the pages, or waiting until we have the images to match before we update. I was attempting to update Paul and noticed 3 overworld images were missing. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 10:07, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Waiting for all the images that will be used on the templates before updating. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 10:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::{{u|ht14}} already created all the templates on a subpage of his, we'll update from there once the pics are up. Save yourself the work, it's already done. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

== Information conflict ==

I don't have access to the anime anymore, so I don't know which is true, but [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]]'s Pokémon's pages state differently to this template. [[Ash's Infernape|Infernape]], [[Ash's Torterra|Torterra]] and [[Ash's Buizel|Buizel]] all contradict this template. Which is right? Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 15:49, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Resolved. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Once again! ==

OK, so [[Ash's Buizel]]'s page doesn't match this template, and neither does [[Ash's Infernape]]'s. As last time, I don't know which is which, so can someone edit this please? Thank you, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 17:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:If you click on "show" you will see that both Ash's Infernape and Buizel are in Oak's laboratory. Also, on Ash's Infenape's page it says that "Before the Suzuran Conference, Ash decided he would need help from his previously caught Pokémon. Due to this, Infernape, along with Ash's Sinnoh party (save for Staraptor) were all sent to Professor Oak's Laboratory. " I'm assuming this includes Buizel as well. So the template is fine as it is right now. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 17:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Why does it look weird? ==

Why are Pikachu and Mamepato all the way on the right? I'm not good with templates so I'm asking for some help. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
:I wondered about that too, I checked the source code and somebody's set it to align=right. I dunno why though, I agree that it looks kind of dumb. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
::The align=right is for the text (on hand, at Oak's, etc). The reason that Pikachu and Mamepato were on the wrong side is because there were four missing cells. All better now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

== On Sewaddle... ==

If Ash doesn't reveal who he swapped out for {{AP|Sewaddle}} by the time [[BW019]] comes around, I suggest we change "On Hand" to "Active Roster", put Pikachu on the top row by itself (to signify it's significance), and the rest on the second row.

{| class="expandable"
! Expand to preview (and stretch screen)
|-
|
<pre>
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="border: 2px solid #{{{{{1|red}}} color}}; background: #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}};"
! style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" | [[Ash Ketchum|{{color|000|Ash's}}]] [[Pokémon (species)|{{color|000|Pokémon}}]]
|-
! align="right" rowspan="2" | Active Roster:
|
|
| width="15%" colspan="2" | {{PartyPoké|025||Ash|Pikachu|electric}}
|-
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|519||Ash|Pidove|normal|flying}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|501||Ash|Oshawott|water}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|498||Ash|Tepig|fire}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|495||Ash|Snivy|grass}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|559||Ash|Zuruggu|dark|fighting}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|540||Ash|Sewaddle|bug|grass}}
|-</pre>
|}

Or something along those lines. Thoughts? --''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' 17:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's not a bad idea. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

UPDATE: OK, we confirmed that Pidove was the Juniper'd Pokémon, but I say we keep my suggestion in mind in case Pidove pops in Ash's party without warning. --''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' 16:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

== Current Party ==

Shouldn't it show the current English party? Or should it have two sections for English and Japanese parties? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:Of course not. The English version is just a dub of the original Japanese version.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== Separators ==

Maybe add them to make it easier to read? Right now it's kinda hard to visually separate categories. — ∀<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГѣ]] ∃[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|Talk page]]</tt> 15:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
{| class="roundy expandable" align="center" style="border: 2px solid #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}}; background: #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}};"
! style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" | [[Ash Ketchum|{{color|000|Ash's}}]] [[Pokémon (species)|{{color|000|Pokémon}}]]
|-
! align="right" | On hand:
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|025||Ash|Pikachu|electric}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|501||Ash|Oshawott|water}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|498||Ash|Tepig|fire}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|495||Ash|Snivy|grass}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|559||Ash|Zuruggu|dark|fighting}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|540||Ash|Sewaddle|bug|grass}}
|- class="expandable"
| style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" |
|-
| style="{{roundy|5px}} background: #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}}" colspan="7" |
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}};"
! align="right" | At [[Professor Juniper|{{color|000|Juniper's}}]]:
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|519|Ash|Pidove|normal|flying}}
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
|-
| style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" |
|-
! align="right" | At [[Professor Oak's Laboratory|{{color|000|Oak's}}]]:
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|001|Ash|Bulbasaur|grass|poison}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|099|Ash|Kingler|water}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|089|Ash|Muk|poison}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|128|Ash|Tauros|normal|link=Ash's Tauros|nick=Tauros (×30)}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|143|Ash|Snorlax|normal}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|214|Ash|Heracross|bug|fighting}}
|-
| style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" |
|-
! align="right" | In training:
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|057|Ash|Primeape|fighting}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|006|Ash|Charizard|fire|flying}}
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|007|Ash|Squirtle|water}}
|-
| style="{{roundybottom|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" |
|-
! align="right" | Status unknown:
| width="15%" | {{ReservePoké|472|Ash|Gliscor|ground|flying}}
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
| width="15%" |
|}
|}<noinclude><nowiki>[[Category:Trainer's Pokémon templates|Ash]] [[de:Vorlage:Ashs Pokémon]]</nowiki></noinclude>
:I agree. It is hard to tell what is in what category. It looks like Bulbasaur's line is "with Juniper", and Rapidash's line is "Not caught" '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-02-15T16:46:40Z

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Sabrina's Haunter/Archive 1

2011-02-14T03:23:05Z

Blake: /* Manga */

==Move==
Yes I moved it. It's not his anymore and I cite Casey's Beedrill as precidence {{unsigned|Lego3400}}

:Well, I can see your point, but this raises a question; do we rename all of the other Pokémon that Ash gave away? For instance, should we rename Ash's Primeape so that its name is Anthony's Primeape? I'm okay with this change, though. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 21:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

::I don't know...If we were to go through with such a plan, we'd have to change [[Jessie's Lickitung]] to Benny's Lickitung, [[Brock's Vulpix]] to Susie's Vulpix, and so on and so forth. Keep in mind that Anthony and Benny were both characters of the day, and characters of the day Pokémon articles are, for the most part, non-notable. I'm not quite decided myself on this issue...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:::That is a very good point... I didn't think of those two when I did it. However, Ash only kept Hunter for one or two, episodes before it decided to stay with Sabrina. Cassie's Beedrill also falls in that same boat. Ash also never caught Hunter, so it would have been more aptly named, Haunter (Anime) if it didn't decide to stay with Sabrina. As for Primeape, Vulpix and Lickitung, they were part of their previous trainer's team for quite some time before being traded. Primeape has also reappeared in openings alongside other of Ash's former Pokemon, something Haunter hasn't done. Also Ash stated that he would come back for Haunter (Which we know isn't going to happen), and didn't do that for Primeape. [[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 16:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, Vulpix was originally Suzie's anyway... '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

:The Beedrill comparison isn't valid: Beedrill has been shown as one of Casey's main Pokémon while Haunter has not been seen again since Ash got it.
:Haunter is a more complicated issue and should be set as precedent even less than Beedrill. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 10:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well, seeing how the Japanese version of Haunter vs Kadabra used the japanese word for Get Pokemon in regards to Haunter (from both Ash AND Sabrina), it was owned by Ash. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

==Template==
Well it be nessecary to make a Sabrina's Pokémon template? --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]]

:I suppose it couldn't hurt. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 00:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::Yhank you for letting me make one! Here is the finished product:
{{Sabrina's Pokémon}}
--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 01:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Moves Used ==

I'm pretty sure Haunter used Lick on Misty before they reached the Gym

[[User: ShinyMedicham]]

== the caught at box is left blank ==

i tried editing but couldnt find where to put it.Any way the answer is Lavender Town - Pokémon Tower
.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 07:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Caught At ==
Similar to the note above this why does it say caught at Saffron City now? Just like Ash "never Caught it" there is no evidence that Sabrina ever put it in a Pokéball. Since it was never put in a Pokéball I think the place it was originally "found" should be it's "catch location" (Lavender Town - Pokémon Tower) if any at all, ''not'' Saffron City. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 23:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:Ash never officially owned it. Sabrina did. Sabrina picked it up in Saffron City. Nuff said. Caught doesn't always mean catching in a ball. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::What made it so Sabrina caught it but Ash didn't? By your logic that a pokeball dosn't mean capture can mean that Ash owned it too (Ash "picked it up" in Lavender town, nuff said?). Haunter was with Ash for 2 episodes but is only with Sabrina in 1 then is mearly implied that "they will be together forever". I am keeping in mind that this is a contested subject for a lot of people and I doubt i'll change bulbapedias mind but I would just like to present this conflicting "knowledge" somewhere noticeable -- [[User:D558|D558]] 20:24, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Um... What is the title of this article? Is it Ash's Haunter? I think not. It's now staying with Sabrina. Just let it go. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::: It is just that kind of stubborn ignorance that will force me to "let it go" because I can't be bothered to try and reason with someone who is so high and mighty with their "knowledge" that they feebly base their arguments on something that is well known to be disputed and is in fact extremely closely related to the point I am trying to calmly and logically dispute(where haunter was caught and by extension who). Specifically against your "argument" that the title proves your point, There was a famous German leader who called a plan "The Final Solution" but any sane or caring person would think of it as anything but that... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:45, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


== Manga ==

Would it be safe to assume that the Black Fog would be the Electric Tale of Pikachu equivalent of Ash....Sabrina's Haunter? I mean, a Haunter and Sabrina..it only makes sense [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC) [[File:Black Fog.png|thumb|right|200px|This handsome fellow right here]]
:bringing this up again [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
::And bringing it up yet again......[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:::From what I understand(which isn't much), the Haunter called the "Black fog" is Sabrina's enemy, and she does not own it. This is not enough of a similarity to put it on this page. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 03:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Template talk:Ash's Pokémon

2011-02-12T15:57:46Z

Blake: /* Current Party */ new section

== [[Ash's Primeape]] ==

I don't think that it is appropriate to consider him "in training" because [[Ash]]'s page says he is released, because he cannot be called upon at any time like [[Ash's Charizard|Charizard]] and [[Ash's Squirtle|Squirtle]] can. So, I am going to revert to the version by [[User:Pie|Pie]]. I know that in Spurt he appears with Ash's Oaked Pokemon, but he does not fit the definition of in training. [[User:Briememory|Briememory]] 20:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just because Ash never ''has'' called on Primeape doesn’t mean he can’t. In the dub, he leaves it to be trained into a P1 champion. Unless he specifically gives it away in the Japanese version, it is technically his Pokémon just as much as the other two. --WikidSmaht 22:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Aipom ==

Since we're pretty sure it evolves soon... what does everyone think of on Ash's template? He traded it as an Aipom, not Ambipom, so I think it should stay as "Aipom" on this template, but link to Dawn's Ambipom. Of course, this shall be WHEN the evolution happens. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think it should be Ambipom. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::It was always an Aipom under Ash, so I'm leaning towards that. The same should apply to Paul and Chimchar when that evolution happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 01:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

==[[Lara Laramie|Lara Laramie's]] Rapidash==

Since Ash used Lara's Rapidash for a race, should Rapidash go under Temporary with Seaking? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] ([[User talk:Chosen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chosen|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:That was borrowed for a competition. Ash never caught it or used it in battle. He just sat on it. I say it doesn't count [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 20:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Then shouldn't it be in a new section called 'Loaned to'?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Mankey... ==

Well, question. It links to a freaking disambig. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:What, I had it link to the {{p|Mankey}}! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 04:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Templates? ==

Wouldn't it be better to use [[Template:AP]] than [[Template:TP]]? I'm putting this on the talk page since I'm not sure if there was a specific reason for using this template and not the other... - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 04:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:It should be AP. The reason it was done with TP is because the AP template didn't exist at the time (I know, cause I'm the one who did it...) Anyway, I'll change it now. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Maybe this should get locked. You know, the whole Chimmy thing. ==

I'd do it myself, but I was stripped of the ability to do so. :\ [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 16:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Squirtle ==

Why is that "in training"? It's not. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 00:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

== Revamp ==

First time I saw it I really hated it, but it's kinda growing on me... Are we gonna use the Ash (electric) theme on all pages, or the Pokémon types? (as in, on Monferno's page for example, a fire background with light fighting title?) --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:Hmmm... actually, we should see about that. It's a good idea. Wait for me to progrum up the rest of the template (I'll do it in about 12 hours, actually) but... yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 15:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::The new character infobox and the VA tables give each character its own theme color. We should use that color on the trainer's page, and the Pokémon's types on the Pokémon pages. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 23:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This is getting too confusing already and it's not even finished yet. How about we turn the anisprites into regular sprites for the nonactive team members? And the "At Oak's" thing should be higher up, not at the middle row. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe if I put some sort of border around each level? And I'm keeping it with the ani overworlds until I get them all done, then I'll go with the MSes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, a border or line might work. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==Edit request==
Can someone make the overworld sprite of Noctowl shiny. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 09:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:It's not using the overworld sprite, and there are no shiny menu sprites. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::Don't worry. If it returns to his team, we have the overworld sprite ready. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Aah, I didn't notice those weren't overworld. I thought they just weren't animated. Are we updating the rest of the pages, or waiting until we have the images to match before we update. I was attempting to update Paul and noticed 3 overworld images were missing. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 10:07, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Waiting for all the images that will be used on the templates before updating. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 10:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::{{u|ht14}} already created all the templates on a subpage of his, we'll update from there once the pics are up. Save yourself the work, it's already done. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

== Information conflict ==

I don't have access to the anime anymore, so I don't know which is true, but [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]]'s Pokémon's pages state differently to this template. [[Ash's Infernape|Infernape]], [[Ash's Torterra|Torterra]] and [[Ash's Buizel|Buizel]] all contradict this template. Which is right? Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 15:49, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Resolved. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Once again! ==

OK, so [[Ash's Buizel]]'s page doesn't match this template, and neither does [[Ash's Infernape]]'s. As last time, I don't know which is which, so can someone edit this please? Thank you, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 17:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:If you click on "show" you will see that both Ash's Infernape and Buizel are in Oak's laboratory. Also, on Ash's Infenape's page it says that "Before the Suzuran Conference, Ash decided he would need help from his previously caught Pokémon. Due to this, Infernape, along with Ash's Sinnoh party (save for Staraptor) were all sent to Professor Oak's Laboratory. " I'm assuming this includes Buizel as well. So the template is fine as it is right now. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 17:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Why does it look weird? ==

Why are Pikachu and Mamepato all the way on the right? I'm not good with templates so I'm asking for some help. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
:I wondered about that too, I checked the source code and somebody's set it to align=right. I dunno why though, I agree that it looks kind of dumb. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
::The align=right is for the text (on hand, at Oak's, etc). The reason that Pikachu and Mamepato were on the wrong side is because there were four missing cells. All better now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

== On Sewaddle... ==

If Ash doesn't reveal who he swapped out for {{AP|Sewaddle}} by the time [[BW019]] comes around, I suggest we change "On Hand" to "Active Roster", put Pikachu on the top row by itself (to signify it's significance), and the rest on the second row.

{| class="expandable"
! Expand to preview (and stretch screen)
|-
|
<pre>
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="border: 2px solid #{{{{{1|red}}} color}}; background: #{{{{{1|electric}}} color}};"
! style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{{{{2|{{{1|electric}}}}}} color light}}" colspan="7" | [[Ash Ketchum|{{color|000|Ash's}}]] [[Pokémon (species)|{{color|000|Pokémon}}]]
|-
! align="right" rowspan="2" | Active Roster:
|
|
| width="15%" colspan="2" | {{PartyPoké|025||Ash|Pikachu|electric}}
|-
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|519||Ash|Pidove|normal|flying}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|501||Ash|Oshawott|water}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|498||Ash|Tepig|fire}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|495||Ash|Snivy|grass}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|559||Ash|Zuruggu|dark|fighting}}
| width="15%" | {{PartyPoké|540||Ash|Sewaddle|bug|grass}}
|-</pre>
|}

Or something along those lines. Thoughts? --''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' 17:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's not a bad idea. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

== Current Party ==

Shouldn't it show the current English party? Or should it have two sections for English and Japanese parties? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)

2011-02-04T03:47:15Z

Blake: /* Gallery */

Hey can we not have Bulbasaur link to Deoxys in the directory? We're going to get new pokemon and it'd just be better to not have the pokemon in a loop. It'd save sanity for when we get the 4th Gen. I'm trying to fix it now[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

How so? Just change Deoxys on the Bulbasaur page to whatever the new last one should be when necessary - a single page edit. It's not like there's going to be tons of new pokemon every day. [[User:Sheep|Sheep]] 21:25, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Let me fix it but if you think I'm gonna relink all 386 pokemon with Meowth again like yesterday..You're nuts.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No Deo-Bulba link. It's not circular. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:53, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Before all these Pokemon pages are redone, should nav be up on top as well as on bottom, or easily locating the nav, no matter how long the page? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

This doesn't really relate, but could we add some possibilities to what certain Pokemon are based off of? As well as what names seem to be based off of? Like Bulbasaur=bulb+dinosaur, or Bulbasaur appears to be a dinosaur? Just asking here because it's a Pokemon page with lots of activity {{unsigned|Surskitty}}

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I'm going to try to automate changing all the navigations for all the Pokemon. Hopefully no one starts editing before I get my script working. I may still be a good hour away from perfecting it. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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Great. I don't feel like changing them all since we spent so long putting them there to begin with. [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 01:46, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Can you believe I spend *36* minutes trying to get this working, trying things, and the problem with my script was an "&" missing? I'll start mass-updating the pages after I ensure there are no problems, and write a looper. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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I can believe it. But, I thought we weren't going to loop to Deoxys? Evan said we weren't It's going to be a bit of a pain with the new Pokemon. Not to mention we have to put Munchlax and Rukario in there somewhere.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 02:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Would there be a template problem without the looping? If not, then anyone can freely unloop them. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

There is so far. I'm debating whether to make a special template for Deo and Bulba. {{unsigned|Evkl}}

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That should be easy enough. Make a "next" template and a "previous" template, and have the NextPrevious template combine these, right? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Perhaps - the problem would then be developing a template to wrap the blue box around it. Or we could just cheat and duplicate code as needed. (Also, I thought you had the Bulbabot account at your disposal to do these automatic changes (they pollute the Recent changes page otherwise)). Also, your bot is a little too overzealous with the &lt; conversion - some HTML tags are also valid in Wiki. - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 07:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The &lt; was a mistake because of how I managed the text (along with viewing it in the browser before I had all the find/replace working): download, change < to &lt;, then change newlines to BR tags, then modify, then change BR tags back to new lines, then replace the &lt;. I had forgotten about the &lt; in comments. In the end, it turned out I didn't even need to bother with less-than signs, as the textarea box doesn't even use HTML. As for BulbaBot, I don't remember the password, and it wasn't in .bash_history, nor did I feel up to checking my GAIM log. But if I knew that it wouldn't show up in recent changes, I would have done that. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

== Moves ==

The version isn't specified, and there is already a page format allocated for this. If you just want to test things, you can do it on a seperate page. Or just use the "Show preview" button. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 02:52, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

We know...we're discussing the best way to handle it. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't have any snide comments. We're in a chat right now dealing with it. If you would like to be included in the BMG mod chat please AIM someone.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 03:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Don't mean to impose, but... ==

Have you considered using the setup given by the Pokémon WikiProject at Wikipedia? The articles seems to be more a guide on how they are in the games, instead of their relevance in the game/anime/manga/TCG. Compare [[Wikipedia:Bulbasaur]] with [[Bulbasaur]], for instance. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:02, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

I'm sorry, that wasn't terribly clear - what do you mean? What is lacking on the Bulbapedia article? Is it just a matter of depth covered (we might be the biggest Pokémon wiki encyclopedia, but we don't get the kind of activity Wikipedia gets) - or something else? As far as I can see, the Wikipedia articles are structured quite like ours. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:36, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
:The articles just need some fleshing out. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 06:34, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
::Then it's nothing to be concerned about. Nothing is ever "done" - it's always open for improvement. Admittedly, it would be nice to have it fleshed out, but we simply don't have the kind of activity Wikipedia gets... so unless you're volunteering to do the work or help convince others to come contribute their work to Bulbapedia, you're just going to have to wait. Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon WikiProject, relies on volunteered work. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:07, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

== GameShark/Action Replay Codes? ==

Someone want to put up an explanation for we non-cheating types what the heck those codes are for and why they're in the article? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Indeed. They're gone now. The same user also made a dubious edit to the GS Ball article. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 11:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sprites! ==

that whole table of the different sprites is very, very, cool. i am thinking perhaps that could become the Project Spritedex? something or another...anyways, i am just letting everybody out there know i would be eager to help get files of the different sprites for you guys...thanks [[User:bill33421]]
PS: the emerald shiny sprite is missing
:Actually, the sprites fall under {{bp|Project Pokédex}}. And yes, I know the Emerald shiny sprite is missing... I haven't been able to find it. If you can add the sprites to Bulbagarden Archives, well, more power to you. Just make sure to upload them with the proper filename. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 11:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:interesting...so yes, i will try to get them, but if i could ask, how do '''you''' get them? is there a site that i can find pics on then upload to bulbagarden? or should i crop screenshots of games?
*There are several sites out there with sprites. Pokemon elite 2000 and upokecenter are good candidates; however it is better to do them yourself. I am going to attempt to fill in all the missing sprites for the first generation- I have (nearly) uploaded all the normal and shiny crystal sprites. (all from 10-111)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 13:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Diet ==

What up wit the diet? We're talking about Pokémon, fictional creatures, here, not animals, very few have their own individual diets and most of them just have a link to the Pokémon food main article, I just don't see the point in it. -[[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]]
:Think about it: is it better to have a link to an article or have nothing link to the article on Pokémon food? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== First Pokemon ==

this part of the trivia section:

"# Bulbasaur is the first dual-type Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Grass Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Poison Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Pokémon in the National Dex order. "

This sounds rediculous, we know Bulbasaur is the first pokemon, so we don't need to say it is the first poison type, grass type, and dual type. ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 10:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

== Movesets ==

Someone should make it so that the moveset ''changes'' to the correct generation when you click on it, rather than linking to a seperate page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:<s>That's exactly what it does for me. Maybe it's something to do with your browser.</s> Wait never mind. Well I'll leave a job like that to someone who knows his way around wiki coding.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: im not sure if thats possible. TTE made the templates, youll have to bring it up with him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbabye? ==

I was watching the first movie again the other day, and in the Pikachu Short, Ash's Bulbasaur used the "Bulba-Bye" on Togepi. I came to check, but it wasn't here. Wouldn't that be something to put in the Behavior section or something like that? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it would be "Bulba-by," to fit with "lullaby." Anyway, it would actually probably be more appropriate on [[Ash's Bulbasaur]], since this doesn't seem to exist outside of the Anime and I think that's the only Bulbasaur that used it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that too - but Dexter said it was the 'first recording' of it, possibly implying that others do it too. [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 22:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, it implies the exact opposite, if you think about it, considering Dexter was talking DURING the event. Dexter ain't psychic. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

I have problems viewing the sprite section. When I press the show button it looks sort of distorted. I took a screenshot and I'll upload what it looks like within 5 minutes and post it here. I've tryed it multiple times and it might just be my computer or it might be an error in the system.--[[User:23-03-33]] 21:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Here is the image and as you can see the evolution overlaps the sprite page for some reason. [[User:23-03-33]]
:[http://www.getfirefox.com I have a solution]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Alternatively, get a new IE. I have IE7 and it works fine here. You seem to have... 6? --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 07:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: IE7 did make it show up right. thanks for your help. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 07:45, 6 September 2008 (EST)
:::Which leaves us with a problem.What about with the random people who come to this site expecting a good page and the Evoluition box overlaps in the Sprite section....--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
Cant we put a link on the front page that says "This Website is Best Viewed in Mozilla Firefox" or whatever those say? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Likely. Or plaster GET FIREFOX ads all over the freakin' place... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::I like TTE's idea, but it's not rational. We should just put a notice on the main page space thingy bob. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Even with IE6, if you open the sprite box, expand the window to full screen and shrink it back down again, everything lines up correctly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::That Seems...Inconvenient To Me. [[User:Cal05000|cal05000]] 08:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Can MediaWiki do user-agent sniffing? That's a possible solution. Regardless, Firefox isn't the only good browser, nor is it the best browser. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
I'm not sure if anyones noticed but Bulbasaur's Platinum non shiny sprite is wrong... and i thought that only 4th gen and sinnoh dex pokemon got new sprites--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I just checked that and you're right, someone needs to fix it--Pokelova 18:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== werid thing ==

When I was on venasor's (sorry for bad spelling), I wanted to see Bulbasaur's page, so I clicked on the name under it's image and when I got on the page it stated "Get a life losers" could someone please fix that. thanks ♥luna13♥

:It's already been fixed. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[User talk:Chocolate|Chat with Me]]) 16:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

::Who would be dumb enough to put "Get a life losers" on bulbapedia. Its disgraceful! --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) 23:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
Anyone else see the shiny sprites are animated? Are the shiny Bulbasaurs in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum animated? {{SUBST::User:SLE aman/Signature}} 01:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. And no, the DPPt sprites aren't animated. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::More accurately, they are animated in the game, but for some reason we're only animating the Platinum sprites.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Generation III Learnsets ==

Just a quick question, why don't the other generation learnsets lead to the next Pokémon, like with the PokémonPrevNext thing? ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 21:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Um...why would they? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, so it would be EASY to move through the Pokémon? Duh. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 23:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gen III Move sets Wrong ==

My Fire Red Bulbasaur didn't learn sweet scent until level 25. I'm not sure about the rest of the moves, but growth should have been offered at level 25 instead, and I still don't have that by 26. I'll update as I learn new moves. {{unsigned|Coldshrike}}
:Done. I already fixed it, thanks for letting us know. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Bulbasaur's cry is a lower-pitched Pikachu cry. --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 17:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:It is! Hm. You know, on the [[cry]] page, there's information stating there's only 37 "different" cries that make the 151 sounds (obviously stuff like Mewtwo, Mew, Paras, and Parasect have the same underlying cry), but it'd be awesome if we could get someone to compile a list of all the Pokémon that use those specific cries. Gen II also has 30 more, making there be really 67 sounds for 251 Pokémon.
:Think you could make this list up for us? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type Advantages over Gym Leaders==

This is kind of a small thing, but it's listed that Bulbasaur has a type advantage over the first two gym leaders in Kanto. But since Lt. Surge uses electric types, that gives Bulbasaur a defensive advantage without an offensive disadvantage (as would be the case with Erika). So shouldn't Bulbasaur be listed as having a type advantage over the first three gym leaders? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 20:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Saying it has a type advantage for that means like when you used a Razor Leaf against Onix or Staryu it would say "It's Super Effective!". Grass type moves don't do that against Electric types, so technically it is true like it already is. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:So saying it has a type advantage is limited ONLY to an attack advantage? That doesn't seem right. That would mean there's a difference in nomenclature between Bulbasaur vs. Onix (Offensive only) and Bulbasaur vs. Starmie (Offensive and Defensive). But no such differentiation has ever been used. [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 19:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:Type advantage is only limited to Attack Advantage, due to Nintendo and the whole Pokémon community thinking you know the strengths and weaknesses of your Pokémon, so if you send out a Ice less Starmie against a Bulbasaur, you are only hurting your self. But, if you but a Bulbasaur against a Starmie, you are giving your self a advantage, due to the Attacks you gave them. Sorry if it sounds a little confusing >.> --[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Back Sprite difference ==

Hey- maybe i'm the first, but when i play Sapphire, Bulbasaur's back sprite is the same as bulbapedia's, however my Fire Red game shows a different back sprite. Here's what I mean: in Hoenn, Bulbasaur is squinting, where in FR&LG, Bulbasaur's eyes are wide open.--[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 22:58:25, 22, August, 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Bulbapedia uses the most recent back sprites available. So they'll use Emeralds back sprites for Gen III and Heart Gold and Soul Silver for Gen V when it comes out.--[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

==Yellow==
Just disproved the "Bulbasaur joins in Yellow if you're level 20" thing by actually playing Yellow. {{unsigned|PharosAM}}
:It joins when Pikachu has high happiness. That's actually mentioned in the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just defeated Misty and i got it. Level 20 thing is a long time question on the topic. It may refer to the fact that you may need Pokémon at least level 20. --[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 12:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

==Sprites==

If you look closely, the Gen.III backsprite is the same as the Gen.II one, only more updated.[[User:Crazylegs24]]
:We try not to have trivia like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
If you look closely, you will find that ALL Pokémon are like that. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask why this page is protected? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Obvius but not mentiond ==
I would think it is fairly obvius that Bulbasaur inspired the name for Bulbapedia itself, yet it hasn't been mentiond in any trivia. [[User: EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 8:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes it has. The last trivia item mentions how Bulbagarden takes its name from Bulbasaur. Bulbagarden is Bulbapedia's parent site. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Change the image link in the manga section to point to [[a:File:Saur Bulbasaur.jpg]]. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking we could add the Black and White locations to not only Bulbasaur's page, but all of the pokemon pages. The problem is, I don't have Black and White, so I'm not even sure if you have to transfer the pokemon over or not. Could you guys help me with that? {{u|Jlin8002}}

== Image snapback ==

Why are all the images of Pokémon 001 - 151 turned back to their original red and green artwork? Someone please fix that and return the images to their most modern artworks.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 15:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that as well. I asked in a few other discussions, but I'm really confused why we're using pictures from [[Red and Green]] rather than [[FireRed and LeafGreen]]. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 17:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
:Well, today is Red and Blue's birthday. I suppose that is why. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a likely reason. Would've been nice if they mentioned that somewhere though so it doesn't look like the site got hacked.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 02:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== 'Bulbasaur' instead of 'it'. ==

Wouldn't it simply read better if the third-person pronoun 'it' was replaced by 'Bulbasaur' in a lot of cases on this page? I'm thinking specifically about the top of the article, but I'm sure small changes like that could be made to the rest of it. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

:I understand what you're saying about the 'it' problem in the first paragraph of the article, but it isn't good to say 'Bulbasaur' over and over again. It's repetitive, and slightly awkward to use the same word over and over again. Also, don't forget to sign your post by type the four tildes. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry, I didn't know that was a rule. I'll do that from now on.

::I'm not saying we replace *every* instance of 'it' with 'Bulbasaur', but there are cases where it's not totally clear what the 'it' is referring to - you can understand what it's referring to if you apply a bit of common sense, obviously, but the issue's more one of grammar than anything else.

::I will say that I'm in no way an authority on style or English grammar (other than having it as a first language), so I'm completely open to advice/correction/direction. I don't seem to be able to edit the page myself, which is why I haven't gone and replaced 'it' with 'Bulbasaur' where I thought it was needed. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::The page seems to be protected, so I would ask one of the admins to do it. Put a message on their talk page and request an edit. That's what I usually do. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::::As a general rule of thumb, if it is clear what a pronoun is referring to, it should normally be used, with the full noun to used occasionally. Repeating the full name every time is clumsy and can be distracting or difficult to read, while if it becames unclear or the pronoun hasn't been used for several sentences the noun should be used instead, to prevent confusion and remind readers what is being talked about.

::::That said, as I'm reading it, it is clear what ''it'' is referring to, but it is overused in places and gets repetitive, such as in the intro. Other sections overuse Bulbasaur a little, and read clumsily. Overall it's just a matter of style which isn't particularly bad in this article. I've reworded the intro slightly to try and make it less clumsy. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

The links to "Normal Box" and "Gorgeous Box" under Held Items are broken. They should redirect to "Pokémon doll#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes" rather than "Held item#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes." Other Pokémon who can generate these items might need this kind of edit too. (This kind of shows how fragile the current direct-linking system for items currently is, but it's way to late to change anything, of course. ☺ ) [[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 21:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks to {{u|Sol}}, those links were quickly fixed. (I'd like to add that I didn't have editing access to this article, which is why I posted here.) '''[[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]]''' ([[User Talk: Redletterday|Talk to me!]]) 18:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Minimum and maximum stats in generations 1 and 2? ==
Hello! Sorry for my bad English, but I am from Germany. I hope, you can understand me.
I just have the generation 1 and 2 games (red, blue, yellow, gold, silver, crystal), and I know, that in these games natures for Pokémon wasn't available (they're coming in generation 3). In the Pokémon pages from 'Bulbapedia' the minimum and maximum stats are calculated WITH this natures. How can I see the min. and max. stats in the first two generations? --[[User:LaBumm|LaBumm]] 12:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:You would have to use the stat formula for Generation I and II found [[Stats|here]]. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 12:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V sprites ==
Shouldn't we show the animation of the pokemon sprites in the sprite list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 00:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:The sprites are uploaded by individuals. Ripping the sprites from the games is a pain. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 00:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== Bulbasaur's number in the National Pokédex and the Fiore Browser is the same: 001. This makes it and its evolution family one of only five families of Pokémon (comprising thirteen Pokémon altogether) ==

who are the other pokemon?

== Gallery ==

Shouldn't we have an art gallery for ALL official pokemon art? Just because the art is more recently made does not mean that it has to be erased from bulbapedia right?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 00:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
:There is all kind of art on the Bulbagarden Archives which you can find in the side bar. There's really no need for a gallery. You can ask an admin though [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:22, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I thought this came up at some point, and they were either planning on making it in the distant future, or they decided it would be too hard to implement. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 03:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

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== Welcome ==

Let me be the first to say welcome back [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokemon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 21:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== A wild Maverick appeared! ==

Welcome back - though I'd put this here rather than forward the email you missed. Basically I was going to ask where you got all of the info regarding the new BW collection cards. From what I can gather all of the info is now on the Pokemon Card Game Network site, which requires you to be a member of the Daisuki club - and I cannot register. The concern I had is that I don't have a Japanese source as to get text and all that from, or did Umeko provide all of this for you? '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 23:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I was forcing myself to actually learn Japanese. I mostly compared the Japanese names of in game attacks with the cards. Anything that I could not either find and copy the text character for character, or copy/paste from one of the move/ability pages, I either had left the cards unfinished, or asked ume for them. There were only about five or six I did not do. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
::I've also hit a potential snag in the way some cards are named. I'm up to Castform on cards by Pokémon, which is where I've noticed it. The Pokémon with different forms have it detailed in smaller text, but this is actually part of the card name. The forms are referenced as the card's full name in several Poké-Powers and as to what they evolve from, as well as in official checklists, and the fact that you can play four of each of those with the form names. Not sure if you planned to rename these if/when you got up to them? - Though I would still like some input. For most instances this isn't a problem, but the Shellos and Gastrodon cards all have the form in their name, which will need a redirect with the way the cardlist header is set up. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Well, I had also come across this problem with {{TCG|Unown}}. The way I began to think of it, was that the different sections for these Pokémon were not so much names as they were the different forms. I organized all of the letters into each of the groups, even though the EX Unseen Forces cards were not labeled "Unown A" specifically. This way provided a lot more sense into the different sections, for instance how all the cards in the first "Unown" section were the ones from HS era featuring more than one at once. I feel like having the three forms of Castform from Legends Awakened into the specifically grouped sections would be best for it. As for Shellos and Gastrodon, we can discuss that more in depth when those two actually come up. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::::This raises another question though, is it best to have for example a section for Sunny Castform, and one for Castform Sunny Form? This is what I was originally alluding to - that I think the cards in question should have the full names in the card article titles as they are with Unown over the course of the DP expansions. Considering I'm going over these with a fine-tooth comb anyway, moving them wouldn't be much more hassle. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, if renaming them is an option, I don't see why not. Though having both "Castform Sunny Form" and "Sunny Castform" is a bit weird and redundant in my opinion. Do what you think is best. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ugh, I've kind of convinced myself out of it, as the names don't look that good in the infoboxes and it does look daft with the breakdowns in the table. I've edited the Castform one to a standard I like, and I've even put a colour switch in there which looks nice! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 21:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I tried to avoid color switches, just so that each type and color was featured at all times. The only other place I encountered this was {{TCG|Lugia}} where all I did was alternate Psychic color and Colorless color. I probably would have just alternated Water and Fire color as the secondary color for {{TCG|Castform}}. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Welcome back! ==

Hi! I was so sad when I saw that you would leave forever,as TTEchidna and you were the ones who welcomed me here and supported my website. I do have a question, though, because I don't know how to do it. I finally created a page of Voltolos (White Collection 19) but the link to the secret Voltolos (White Collction 54) is still red. Could it be possible to create a redirect of this page : http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Voltolos_(White_Collection_54)&action=edit&redlink=1 (Secret Voltolos) to the original page : http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Voltolos_(White_Collection_19), just like it was done with Tornelos, Reshiram and Zekrom? That would help a lot, since I don't know how to do it. [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 22:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:Forget that, it is already done :) [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 22:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:Already done! I am very impressed with what you did. There was only one minor modification: じゅうでん is {{m|Charge}}'s Japanese name, and I already took care of it. Fantastic job. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Demographics==

I wanted to create a page to compare the Demographics of various places in the Pokémon world. Did I do anything wrong?
[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 05:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah. You didn't create anything. We can't have an empty page. It screws up the statistics. make it in your userspace. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, I was waiting for somebody to fill it up... I am serious, this is not a gimmick...[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 05:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:So, you wanted to create a page, but you wanted someone else to do it? I can't believe you. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:35, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Oops... I SAID THAT I WANTED TO CREATE A BASE PAGE AND OTHER PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE TO IT, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PAGE[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 23:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's been said before, and It'll be said again. If you are not going to put in the effort to make an article properly ''before'' you save it, creating the page, then don't do it in the mainspace. There's a reason mainspace pages are called "articles" not "names" - because they have something on them. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
OK!:-22:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reprints ==

Now, as I am sure you are glad to hear, all of the cards by Pokémon pages are complete I want to fill you in on something I plan on tackling next. While going through cards for the cards by Pokémon pages, I noticed a lot of inconsistencies as to how cards with reprints are shown. With cards that have only one reprint, the tendancy is to place the image of the reprint lower down the page with the primary release in the infobox. However, I have found this to be distracting in some cases, particularly with cards that have more text with regards to different versions, or where it masks bullet points in trivia sections. 
What I propose is that we use the gallery underneath the release info heading that shows all variations and have the reprints detailed in the infobox that cycle, as articles with many reprints already feature. I know you personally are not a fan of the gallery when it comes to these, but I'm trying to think in the context of a casual browser/user. If they see one version of the card as displayed in the infobox, they can scroll down and see all iterations, and refer to the descriptions above to see individual details - I just think it structures the article more nicely. I'm sort of in the process of doing this, as I want to add concise info for distribution in promo card articles, specifically how they were for both English and Japanese releases. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 21:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah, sure, do whatever you want. It's not my project anymore. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::I still value your input though, which is why passed it by you. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 11:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm seeing it as the current leader finding and destroying upon the problems that the previous leader had. You know that if I liked something, I'm not completely going to give an unbiased answer towards what you should do. I think anything you want to do would be an improvement on what I did, like how everything I wanted to do was mostly an improvement of {u|ShiningPikablu252}}, and so on. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reply ==

What do you mean capitalize the letters in the template? It was like that in the Bulbasaur (Baes Set 44)! I only know how to do regular moves not poke-powers and poke-bodies. Could you tell me how so I know what to do?[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
:You are using a bad example. Base your edits off of [[Charizard (Arceus 1)]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Update ==

Well, I was doing it in lowercase because I saw an article that had it so, so I based my edits on that, but as soon as you sent that message, I started using "Xxxxx". It feels better that way. I'll edit the old ones later, I'd like to edit some more before going back. Oh, and I talked to Jello today about said templates, [[Aggron ex (EX Crystal Guardians 89)|this one]] has a problem, I tried to use {{template|TCGNote}}, with {{template|TCGAttack}}, but the four couldn't be tied in one table, how can we fix that? Since we only have Top, Middle and Bottom parameters. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 05:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:Derp, just watched you edit it, nevermind. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 05:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::Already saw it and fixed it. TCGNote also has the position option. Also, just to keep things consistent, powertype goes UNDER position. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I know that has the position parameter. And alright, starting from now, doing powertype under position. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 05:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Fantastic. Thank you. Keep up the good work. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:Alright, the last time I checked in another article, I had compared everything before using it in said article. Guess I didn't this time, sorry. I'll leave the Carddex and/or grey tables alone, then. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 05:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, well, I saw that the table said basically the same, so I figured that that'd do. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 05:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
===Dark Pokémon card===
How do I handle those? Should I just use the TCGAttack with the type they're originally from? [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|''contribs'']] 10:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:Same as normal, but Add "class=Dark |" under position. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

== Swalot (tcg) ==

Ummm..... I know I've caused trouble in the past, but I'm trying to stop doing that. I suppose you might remember undoing a revision from me on Salot's TCG page. You say they're normally psychic-type stage 1s, but there are 3 grass swalots, and only 2 psychic swalots. So, technically, they are grass types most of the time. Like I said, not to cause any more trouble ;).

== [[Hama-chan's Slowking (CoroCoro promo)]] ==

Do these kind of cards use the "Doodle" thing? Also, just letting you know, I'd like to get rid of the Cardattack templates in all of the Pokémon cards first, and then replace the pages that have {{template|graytable}} for the {{template|Carddex}} ones, I can focus better this way. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|''contribs'']] 05:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, there's a doodle option. Also, we'll see about the carddex. We'll see. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 08:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::Then, the ones that have drawings like that should have the Doodle thing. Got it. Well, if I finish them earlier, I can peacefully work on updating the Graytables to Carddex, and thus won't make any mistakes such as the ones I did earlier. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|''contribs'']] 08:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Is [[Rocket's Entei ex (EX Team Rocket Returns 97)|this]] okay? Especially the order of the class parameter. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|''contribs'']] 09:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I've been telling others to put class under position. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== User:Maverick Nate/Designers ==

Are you planning on getting around to doing it? We know quite a few Generation V Pokémon have been designed by James Turner. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
:I haven't focused any recent time on it. Add to it if you wish. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== Elfuun ==

was confirmed by [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2011/01/p110128_01.html this]. Doesn't that make filenames of other cards official?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 10:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:Filenames weren't used to confirm Elfuun. And no, filenames from the card database are not consistent, so there is no way for us to use them. We aren't going to change Raichu to Raichuu just because the card database named [[a:File:021578 P RAICHUU.jpg|their images]] that way and even though "Raichu" is the trademarked, and it still applies to BW. Quit pressing the subject. It's getting quite annoying to have to repeat ourselves multiple times. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== eBayers stealing and hotlinking scans ==

Hi, I have been alerted that eBay sellers have been stealing scans from here, but not any scans out there. They're stealing AND Hotlinking MY OWN scans, which my website states the following rules -
:YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STEAL THESE OR PUT A WATERMARK ON THEM!!!
::FAQ rules still apply! Online auctions (like eBay) or websites with *annoying* Right-Clicking Disabled are not allowed to use these AT ALL. LiveJournal and similar websites are welcome to use these.

Could it be possible to prevent images from the Archive to be hotlinked? Anyhow, here' the eBay auction URL with a hotlinked Shining Magikarp...stolen and the seller even put a damn watermark on it, breaking not 1, not 2, but 3 TERMS OF USE rules!!!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MAGIKARP-SHINING-66-64-HOLO-US-NEUF-CARTE-POKEMON-/270674756255?pt=FR_JG_Collections_Cartes_de_Collection&hash=item3f0579029f

Images
(Mine) : http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/6/60/Shiningmagikarp2.jpg/180px-Shiningmagikarp2.jpg

(After it was stolen) : http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!B+DtKFg!Wk~$(KGrHqJ,!hoEzd9T!ZWuBM-jWTgMHg~~_12.JPG

The holo marks and smudges all match up, proving image theft. [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 16:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Sockpuppeter ==

I think that I may be sockpuppeting, It is very vauge but I seem to remember creating an accout and then decideing this was all to complicated. Now, I'm preety sure this one is a new account. Is there anyway of searching for an old account that may or may not exsist and if so, can it be deleted? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:Just because you have another account doesn't mean you are sockpuppeting. Creating extra accounts to use maliciously is bad, but accidentally having an extra account is not, as long as you aren't using it. (I actually have three: long story.) I assume you aren't since you brought this up to me. You're fine. Just carry on with normal business, and if anyone ever harasses you about this, send them to me. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
::thanks Mav, I'm not even sure if there is one but is was bugging me [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== sorry... ==

I am sorry about the Team Budew thing. I don't know if the others are moving. (Personally, I want to move ASAP but I'm not the leader. I want to follow policies. Team Budew, don't take this the wrong way, but if we cause trouble I might drop out for the reason of we should follow the rules.) I am really sorry. :( [[User:Pokabu82|Pokabu]][[user talk:Pokabu82|82]] 02:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

== APNG v GIF ==

Since I never plan on registering on the forums, I'm going to bring this up here.

What was with the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=97285 massive arguing over the APNG vs. GIF debate] in which you kept using the reasoning to "just use Firefox" over and over (amongst other reasons)? Telling people incessantly to change their browser is really not a good way to go forward when it comes to user-friendliness for a Wiki. I for one, definitely would not go back to that bloated, memory-hog of a browser when Chrome currently does it's job perfectly fine with better functionality (like TweetDeck as an extension). However, I am aware that APNG's are not currently supported, and may not be for quite a while too. Do you see me kicking up a storm about it? No, because I chose my browser, and I am dealing with it's functionality (or lack of it, in this case).

How about next time to debate comes up again, you use the other sides of the arguments such as the server load, templating issues and the rest; rather than banging on about people's choice of browser?

As someone who is supposedly a Bureaucrat, you're not setting a very good example IMO. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 16:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

:I and evan had already stated the other reasons on why they will be staying pngs, and Turtwig Lover just continued to ignore them. So, I started repeating what the easiest solution was for him to see them was. I knew that they would never change (for the reasons stated in the last post by evan), so no more actual debate was necessary. Now, I will admit that I didn't argue as elegantly as I should have, but I was fed up with him. He was extremely disrespectful towards Jello and her effort to standardize sprites. If he was so adamant about gifs, he shouldn't have started an argument in the middle of her project. It was appalling to see the amount of disregard for other peoples' projects and the disrespect to one of my greatest friends on this site, so, I did not argue the best, because I let my emotions get in the way. However, I will say I was never a Bureaucrat for my way of words with other users. I'm a Bureaucrat because I get shit done. And honestly, I don't care what your opinion of me is, or whether or not you think I'm "friendly." I treat people the way they treat others. And I will respect the people who actually do things for the wiki. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Aqua Grunt links ==

I noticed instead of relinking to the correct page, you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MAGNEDETH&diff=prev&oldid=1343602 removed it] from two [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Werdnae&diff=prev&oldid=1343603 usertalk pages]. Do you have a reason behind this, or were you just lazy?(no offence) '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 03:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bianca

2011-01-29T14:17:02Z

Blake: /* Move to "Bianca" */

== Starter choice ==
Pokebeach has confirmed that Bel chooses the starter weak against yours. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== hometown ==

we have the info for the player characters and rivals hometowns...so shouldn't it be added to bel and Cheren's pages? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:40, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Champion? ==

Didn't the Elite 4 articles detailed earlier that Bel ended up as the Champion? I no longer see that around, was that removed? [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Ended up being just a silly rumor. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::actually it was real..but it's just unused game data [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If it was unused, shouldn't it still be mentioned somewhere? I guess we haven't gotten to the Black and White Beta article yet, though... [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 00:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Actually, [[Pokémon Black and White beta|we have]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
No you haven't I just looked at it and it says nothing about Bel being champion.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind didn't look at the bottom of this page.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

== wrong sprite ==

the sprite used is the sprite shown in the intro after naming your character. the sprite used in battle is different. same with cheren. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 06:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia issue? ==

Related to the silly rumors above on this page about Bel being mistaken as the initial Champion of the game, I see a trivia bit for this added in onto the main page. But should misinformation like this really be a trivia bit? I see related misinformation on other pages like Mamanbo and such. I'm kind of in favor of removing it... --[[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 07:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:From what I heard, it wasn't just a rumor. It was actually in the beta version of the game. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:32, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::Is there any solid proof for this? That's a very interesting possibility if it's true, but until there's some proof, would it be fair to remove this trivia bit for now, especially since it doesn't allude to a possible beta anyway? --[[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 07:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I removed the trivia. I'm not sure if the beta rumor is true or not. Hopefully someone can shed some light on the matter. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not. [http://pokemon.maruamyu.net/data/bw/trainers.html No Champion Data for Bel]. All Bel's teams have the class "Pokemon Trainer". I bet someone just spotted Bel's final battle team and jumped to the conclusion "She has such strong Pokemon! She must be a Champion!". But this is nothing more than a rumor. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:33, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I hate to sound like I'm attacking you Kenji, but look through various parts of the Diamond and Pearl series. You will see a few instances where trivia mentions rumors and fakes episodes, some of them that you yourself said were ok to keep. This isn't any different. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 13:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's not Kenji so much as it is me; I've been wondering about this kind of trivia discussing misinformation/rumors to TTE one night and he suggested I put a talk page discussion about this. What makes trivia about rumors and misinformation noteworthy on a site that compiles accurate information? That's the question I have in my head when I see trivia such as this around the site. --[[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 18:39, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's because of how much attention rumors and fake info receive and that's why it has been done. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:37, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

How is this article a Stub? [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesuxelf]] 17:20, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bel's Chillarmy ==

How is Bel's Chillarmy a male? It looks more of a guess as it mostly cleans dirty stuff. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 18:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Because it uses {{m|Attract}} on {{Ash}}'s {{TP|Ash|Snivy}} and it works. :| [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 18:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::also, what does cleaning have to do with its gender [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks Jo. Its ironic that both of them know attract. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:53, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bel's page ==

Bel's anime counterpart does not deserve its own page, such as Barry and Lyra?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 18:15, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:She's only appeared in one episode so far, unlike Barry and Lyra. Too early to decide if she should get her own article. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

I think she should get her own page especially since she told ash they will meet again. Also there is a trivia point that states she's ash's first female rival, if casey isn't counted. Don't rivals get there own pages? Shooti did after one episode.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Shooti doesn't exist in the games, so he didn't already have an article that anime information could be added to. (Besides, it's not just rivals but [[Character of the day|everyone in the anime]] who gets an article.) Bel exists in both the games and the anime, and separate articles for each continuity won't be created without a good reason. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 20:48, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

But it says she is ashs first female rival isn't that reason enough? All rivals get pages if im not mistaken don't they?[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:10, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:I'm going to remove the trivia. If she's not in the rival's box in the character template than she's not a rival yet. We are waiting until she has a significant role before we do anything. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bel and Barry Design Similarities. ==

*Orange and Green.
*Live Caster and Pokétch.
*Blonde Hair.
*They both carry that pack over their shoulders.
Trivia-worthy? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Move to "Bianca" ==

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/friends-and-foes/friends/

Thanks in the future. [[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 01:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:We already have another {{mo|Bianca}} this one isn't going anywhere. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 05:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
::I suggest that now "Bianca" has been moved to "Bianca (movie)", this one should be moved to "Bianca", as she is far more notable than a movie character. In addition, she is not exclusive to the games; she has appeared in both the anime and the manga too. There are no old links regarding movie Bianca linking to Bianca, as I fixed any remaining. There are other incidences where one character is more notable than a CotD (which is what movie characters are) and is at the page itself, leaving a note with {{template|search}} at the top. If not "Bianca", at the very least, she should be moved to {{red link|Bianca (Unova)}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:::To be perfectly honest, I wasn't implying any of this. I just was expecting a simple replacement, from "Bel (game)" to "Bianca (game)". However with what ya'll said, I wouldn't mind the change to simply be "Bianca". --[[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 20:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I disagree leaving Bianca where she is now is consistent with the other rivals such as Barry, Blue, etc. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 20:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::The other rivals have separate articles for their anime/manga counterparts, so calling them "game" is fine. Bianca only has one article, and all of her counterparts are here, so she is not exclusive to the games. Also, [[Wally]] doesn't get "(game)", probably because of his manga appearance. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I don't mean to perpetuate this, but say for example Bianca's anime counterpart gets more screentime and becomes a full rival, like Barry did. In such a case, we would have to separate the game and anime pages anyway. Given her status as a game character, I'd be very surprised if Bianca didn't show up again in the anime. Just my two cents. [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 05:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::She's not Ash's rival, yet. We are going to wait for more appearances before we even go there. She could just be another {{an|Casey}}. Anyway, SnorlaxMonster has a point. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::We can't say, will she, or will she not, thus there is no reason to leave this article with wrong name just because of assumption. If eventually anime Bianca will grow into notable character, the article will be splited. Bulbapedia works with present, as far as I understand, not with possible future. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 13:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::If her anime counterpart appears often enough, she would deserve her own page. However, at the moment, she only has one page, which is titled as if she is exclusive to the games. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I just don't get it. This article has a well written anime section along with a manga section and still, its name is "Bianca (game)", doesn't make any sense. Just Bianca would be nice till we have a separate anime article for her. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:Having a disambag doesn't make any sense for only two entries. That is what the "This article is about x. For y, see here" template is for. This Bianca appears as a main character in the games and various manga, and also appears in the anime. The other Bianca only appears in one movie. This article should be moved to [[Bianca]] with a hatnote placed. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 19:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
*I agree with moving it to just "Bianca". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 14:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::I honestly would like to leave this at it is as of now, since this Bianca is the best known counterpart overall, if Bianca shows up in the anime more often, like {{an|Barry}} or even [[Ritchie]], then I would agree to separate this article onto two. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|''contribs'']] 14:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, she could have an anime article if she appears often enough, but we would likely end up doing it like [[Brock]] and [[Brock (anime)]] due to the manga anyway. This article is not only the game Bianca, so it should not be titled as if it were. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Exactly. This is not a game only character, thus the (game) tag is misleading. At the very least, this should be moved to (Unova), but this character is going to be more popular then the (movie) Bianca, so she needs to have prominence, and have a "Did you mean ___" notice at the top asking the reader if they meant to look for "Bianca (movie)". That is how things are handled when only 2 instances of a name occur. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bianca

2011-01-21T19:06:03Z

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Blue (Adventures)

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:''For the female character from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga who is known as Blue in Japan, see [[Green (Adventures)]].
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{{CharInfobox|
color={{blue color}} |
corecolor={{blue color light}} |
bordercolor={{green color}} |
name=Blue Oak|
jname=オーキド・グリーン |
tmname=Green Ōkido|
image=Blue Adventures.png |
size=200px |
caption=Blue|
age=yes |
years=16 (as of [[List of rounds in the fifth chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the fifth chapter]]) |
gender=Male |
birthday=November 22 |
hometown=[[Pallet Town]] |
region=[[Kanto]] |
relatives=[[Daisy Oak]], [[Professor Oak]] |
colors=yes|
eyes=Green|
hair=Brown|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}}, [[Gym Leader]] |
leader=yes |
gym=Viridian Gym |
specialist=yes |
type=Various |
badge=Badge#Earth Badge{{!}}Earth Badge |
manga=Adventures|
roundnum=PS001 |
roundname=Glimpse of the Glow}}
'''Blue Oak''' (Japanese: '''オーキド・グリーン''' ''Green Ōkido'') is the second main character of the {{pkmn|manga}} series [[Pokémon Adventures]]. He is the grandson of [[Professor Oak]].

Blue debuts in the first round of the manga, ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]'' where he and his rival {{adv|Red}} see a {{p|Mew}} in a [[Pallet Town]] forest. His first {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} was a {{p|Scyther}} -- he is shown with one when he was a child. When he was young, he trained in [[Johto]] under [[Chuck]], the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Cianwood City]].

Blue's special skill, as described by [[Professor Oak]], is [[Pokémon training]] -- that is, leveling them up and making them strong, and as such is referred to as the '''"{{pkmn|Trainer}}"''' (Japanese: 育てる者 ''Trainer'').

Blue has a serious, calm, and focused personality in everything he does. Although Red and Blue were once bothered by each other because their personalities are so opposite, they ended up resolving their differences.

Blue and his Scyther were trained by Chuck of Cianwood City when he was a child. Thus, Blue has some cursory knowledge of martial arts, and his Scyther knew [[Generation II]] techniques.

Blue also has a rivalry with [[Koga]] of [[Team Rocket]]. This began when Blue almost killed Koga's {{p|Arbok}} by having his {{p|Charmeleon}} {{m|cut}} it in two, and continued on throughout the series until Koga's reclusion.

==Character history==
==={{chap|Red, Green & Blue}}===
[[File:Blue Adventures RGB.png|thumb|110px|right|Blue's original design]]
[[File:Blue RGBchapter.png|thumb|left|Blue in the first chapter]]

Blue was first seen by Red when he was battling a Mew with his Charmander, only to recall it after he thought it was too strong for him. This angered Red to a point that he decided to challenge Mew himself, only to be quickly defeated. Blue then told Red that he needs to know when he's outmatched and leaves. He then encounters Blue again who is attacking any Pokémon he sees to tell if they are worthy of catching, accidentally hitting Red's [[Poli]] in the process, but eventually the Pokémon he wanted to capture in the first place appeared, {{p|Kangaskhan}}, however it got away after Red healed the baby Kangaskhan who had been poisoned by a Poison-type Pokémon. It is this incident where a rivalry develops between these two. He is next seen in Pewter City with intent on challenging Brock and is later seen battling him with his newly evolved {{p|Charmeleon}}. He then goes to the Pokémon Tower after meeting Mr. Fuji, only to be caught under the control of the {{p|Gastly}}, until Red defeats them and frees him. The two of them eventually runs into [[Koga]], who has been controlling the Gastly this whole time, however Blue eventually has his Charmeleon cut Koga's {{p|Arbok}} in half, making Koga swear a personal vendetta against him.

During the course of their adventures, Red and Blue accidentally traded Pokémon, including his new {{p|Porygon}}, which the man at the front desk of the Game Corner said would be very difficult to train since he didn't catch it himself. This caused Blue's {{p|Machoke}} to evolve, and Blue took the opportunity to teach Red's Pokémon more exotic, varied, and useful moves. Red's training on Blue's Pokémon made them more playful and lighthearted, something that greatly annoyed Blue.

After he unsuccessfully tries to enter Saffron City, he returns to Pallet Town to tell Red about the barrier. He tells Red that he believes from a picture he took that Saffron City is Team Rocket's hideout, and Blue in turn learns that his grandfather is missing. He then tells Red that since it is his grandfather that is missing, that he should be the only one to save him, and wants him to back off, although Green finally convinces the two of them to work together. They get separated in Silph Co. and ends up running into Koga on 2F, who, instead of allowing Blue to reach his Poké Balls, subdues him with his {{p|Muk}}. He tells Blue that rather than kill him on the spot, he wants to use him to get his grandfather to cooperate with them, to which Blue refuses. He then takes a Razor Wind to the chest and is seemingly rendered incapable of moving. When Red appears after defeating [[Lt. Surge]], Koga traps him too. Blue reveals that he was really wearing a reflective pendant given to him by Oak and that allowed him to have his Pidgeot attack Koga before he could kill both of them. Koga then calls his {{p|Articuno}} and freezes the two of them, only for Koga to realize that Blue previously called out his Charizard to keep the room warm enough for them to melt the ice. Koga was then subsequently defeated. Green then took Koga's Soul Badge and gave it to Red. They split up, Red to help Green, and Blue to save his grandfather, who was trapped in the basement, which he found out using Koga's Golbat. He finds his grandpa and realizes that all of the people from [[Pallet Town]] are tied up just a floor below them. He comes back in order to help Red and Green fight Sabrina and [[Zapmolcuno]], and, after Red's [[Saur]] evolves and Green's Clefairy evolves into a Clefable, they defeat Sabrina and Zapmolcuno is split.

At the [[Pokémon League]] tournament, Red's [[Saur|Venusaur]] barely defeats Blue's {{TP|Blue|Charizard}}. This tames their rivalry as the two finally begin to respect each other, and begin to become friendly rivals.

Blue's cockiness becomes subdued as the story continues, and his personality becomes less mocking and more aloof and quiet. He is also able to rely on instinct more and constantly adapt his strategy. He often becomes flummoxed by {{adv|Green}}'s hyperactive meddling in everyone's affairs.

==={{chap|Yellow}}===
In the Yellow Saga, Blue is first seen defeating a Gastly that all of the good Gym Leaders and Yellow were fighting. He then reveals that it had belonged to [[Agatha]] whom he had battle previously at the [[Power Plant]] due to the grudge she has toward his grandfather. He then says that he had cut off all contact with him just so nobody could listen in. Before he leaves Yellow wishes to train with him, which he allows.

Then he recalls to Yellow the time when he battled against Agatha. It was back during the time of the first chapter when Red was battling Giovanni. Blue had just caught a Lapras that another boy named Bozz was eyeing because he wanted a strong Pokémon so he could enter the Power Plant to save his Haunter which disappeared into there. He talked to his grandfather and he had heard similar rumors so Blue decided to investigate. He defeated several Magneton along the way before he finally encountered Agatha. After Bozz let it slip that Blue was Oak's grandson she decided to destroy him instead of toy with him like she had planned initially. She had her Gengar use Hypnosis on him and then use Dream Eater to drain his power. His dream was of when he was training with Chuck and he made him do things without the help of his Pokémon and after he complained, Chuck made him realize that not only must a Pokémon be strong to defeat an opponent, but so must a trainer. He then has his Golduck transfer his thoughts into his Pokédex for Bozz to read and have him learn the same lesson, so he could rescue his Haunter which was in Poké Ball behind Agatha so its attack would disrupt Gengar's Dream Eater. This plan works and after Blue escapes, Agatha disappears before he could get any answers on how she knows his grandfather.

He tutors {{adv|Yellow}} in more intense strategies for {{pkmn|battle}}s. It is during this training that Blue learns that Yellow doesn't know the basics of Pokémon. All of her Pokémon were given to her, she didn't know what moves [[Ratty]] knew and cried when it evolved since she didn't think it was Ratty anymore, and couldn't catch a simple {{p|Caterpie}} because she didn't want to hurt it so Blue had to catch it for her. He later teamed up with Yellow to defeat an entire pack of Mankey but when it became clear that Yellow could not defeat the leading Primeape he took it upon itself to defeat it with his Porygon. Yellow then goes off to continue training on her own.

He then appears to Blaine at Cerise Island and the two of them try to take on the Elite Four, only for them to run into the three Rocket Admins, [[Koga]], [[Lt. Surge]], and [[Sabrina]].

Later, he is paired up with Koga by Sabrina's Spoons of Destiny. Before he finds an opponent he returns Golbat to Koga which he had kept with him ever since the incident at Silph Co. The pair of them fight [[Agatha]] of the [[Elite Four]] once again. During the battle he and Koga are separated and he is forced to use Koga's Golbat once again after he is blinded by Agatha's Haunter's {{m|Lick}}, forcing him to have Golbat use echolocation to realize that there was another Golbat coming at him. After a while of evading the Golbat Koga started throwing shuriken balls containing Paralyze Heals, one of which got to Blue and he was able to rejoin the battle, and defeat Agatha. Although it turns out that Agatha wasn't really defeated and was actually having her Gengar become Koga and Blue's shadow and was slowly sucking the life out of them and due to Koga's quick loss of blood Gengar was able to get away with this for a moderate time. They figured it out, however, and it was defeated.

==={{chap|Gold, Silver & Crystal}}===
Blue comes to take on the role of the [[Viridian City]] Gym Leader after Red is forced to turn it down. He captures several powerful Pokémon that were enraged by the Pokémon March Radio song that was accidentally being played by the Pokémon Association. While he was initially turned down because he wasn't qualified but after he caught the rampaging Pokémon and was able to locate the cause, he was given the job. He then informs Red of how to heal his wounds that Lorelei's ice cuffs created, and gave him his [[Green's Charizard|his Charizard]] to help him make it there easier. He assists in the final battle with the [[Masked Man]].

==={{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}===
Blue and Red go to Professor Oak's lab at the professor's request. They don't see the professor but find a note that tells them to return the Pokédexes. As they leave they are attacked by a mysterious Pokémon. They decide to go to the [[Sevii Islands]]. He and Red go through a series of tests given to them by [[Kimberly]] to obtain the ultimate attacks, {{m|Blast Burn}} and {{m|Frenzy Plant}}. Blue teaches the legendary {{type2|Fire}} move Blast Burn to his Charizard. After meeting up with Elite Four member, [[Lorelei]], they split up to defend the Sevii Islands from Team Rocket. Blue fights with [[Orm]] of [[The Three Beasts]] and his {{p|Shuckle}}, learning that Team Rocket kidnapped his grandfather. After saving Prof. Oak, he traveled back to Kanto, and helped stop the Team Rocket airship from crashing into [[Vermilion City]]. He was turned into stone soon afterwards by an energy explosion.

He, along with the other four who were turned to stone, were shipped to the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}} in a box to be revived.

==={{chap|Emerald}}===
For the most part of this chapter, he, along with four other Pokédex-holders, remained turned into stone. It was only at nearly the end of the chapter that he and the others were liberated by {{adv|Emerald}} with the help of the wish-granting [[legendary Pokémon]] {{p|Jirachi}}.

==Pokémon==
This listing is for Blue's Pokémon:
===On hand===
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Scizor
|type1=Bug
|type2=Steel
|img=Blue Scizor.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc={{p|Scizor}} was Blue's first Pokémon, and trained with him since childhood as a {{p|Scyther}}. It has a Docile nature and knows a variety of [[Generation II]] moves due to its training under [[Chuck]] when Blue was his student.

Scizor's known moves are {{m|Slash}}, {{m|Metal Claw}}, {{m|False Swipe}} and {{m|Steel Wing}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Charizard
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|img=Blue Charizard Adventures.png‎
|epnum=PS001
|epname=A Glimpse of the Glow
|desc={{p|Charizard}} is the Pokémon Blue received from his grandfather, [[Professor Oak]], as a {{p|Charmander}}. It was taught the powerful {{m|Blast Burn}} technique in the [[Sevii Islands]]. Like most of Blue's Pokémon, it has a stern personality. It debuted in ''[[PS001|A Glimpse of the Glow]]'' in a battle against {{p|Mew}}. Evolved into {{p|Charmeleon}} sometime between ''[[PS003|The Secret of Kangaskhan]]'' and ''[[PS005|Onix is On!]]'', and debuted again in its current form in ''[[PS027|Kalling Kadabra]]''.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Porygon2
|type1=Normal
|img=Blue Porygon2.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc={{p|Porygon}} is a Pokémon Blue won at the [[Celadon City]] Game center. It later evolved into {{p|Porygon2}} prior to the {{chap|Gold, Silver, & Crystal}}, and proved to be very useful during the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}. It has a Quirky [[nature]].

Porygon2's known moves are {{m|Conversion}}, {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Tri Attack}}, {{m|Conversion 2}}, {{m|Recycle}}, {{m|Zap Cannon}}, and {{m|Sharpen}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Golduck
|type1=Water
|img=Blue Golduck.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc={{p|Golduck}} is one of Blue's main team members. Blue uses this Pokémon's psychic ability to see things he can't see and "talk" to people without talking, all through the Pokédex. Other than battling, Blue uses it to {{m|surf}}. It has a Serious nature.

Besides Surf, Golduck knows also {{m|Hyper Beam}}, {{m|Dig}}, {{m|Confusion}}, {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Tail Whip}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Machamp
|type1=Fighting
|img=Blue Machamp.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc={{p|Machamp}} is one of Blue's original main team members. It evolved from {{p|Machoke}} under Red's care due to the accidental trade that occurred between the two. It has a Bashful nature.

Machamp's four arms were always useful in battles where Blue needed its superpower the most, doing much damage to Red's {{DL|Red (Adventures)|Snor}} in both the fights it had with it, even managing to faint it once.}}

===In box at Viridian Gym===
{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Ninetales
|type1=Fire
|img=Blue Ninetales Adventures.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc=Blue and Red caught this {{p|Ninetales}} together, but Blue succeeded in claiming it. He has also used it later against Red in the Pokémon League and [[Agatha]]'s {{p|Gengar}} at [[Cerise Island]]. It has a Modest nature.

Ninetales's known moves are {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Pidgeot
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Blue Pidgeot Adventures.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc={{p|Pidgeot}} is one of Blue's original main team members. It was used to send letters to Professor Oak when they cut off communication after Blue's battle with Agatha. It was later replaced by Rhydon. It has a Hardy nature.

Pidgeot's known moves are {{m|FeatherDance}} and {{m|Wing Attack}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Exeggutor, Alakazam, and Arcanine
|type1=Blue
|img=Blue gym team.png
|epnum=PS116
|epname=VS. Scizor
|desc=Blue caught these Pokémon when they were rampaging due to the radio.}}

Because the bonus snippets of Volume 6 shows that Blue has registered 126 Pokémon by the time he battles Agatha, it can be assumed that Blue has caught many more that have yet to be shown or added to his teams.

===Formerly owned===

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Silver
|gender=male
|pkmn=Rhydon
|type1=Ground
|type2=Rock
|img=
|epnum=PS116
|epname=VS. Scizor
|desc={{main|Silver (Adventures)#Rhyperior|Silver's Rhyperior}}
Blue caught {{p|Rhydon}} in [[Viridian City]] when it was rampaging due to the radio. After becoming the [[Gym Leader]] of the [[Viridian Gym]], Blue found a book called ''Secrets of the Land'' left there by [[Giovanni]], and decided to turn the {{type2|Ground}} Pokémon into one of his main team members. It has a Mild nature.
Rhydon has been given to {{adv|Silver}} to make up the gap of his missing {{p|Ursaring}} before {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}} and is now a {{p|Rhyperior}}.

Rhydon's known moves are {{m|Earthquake}}, {{m|Horn Drill}}, {{m|Dig}}, {{m|Horn Attack}}, {{m|Megahorn}} and {{m|Stomp}} (as well as {{m|Earth Power}}, as a Rhyperior).}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Saur
|trainer=Red
|pkmn=Venasaur
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|img=Saur.png
|epnum=PS002
|epname=Bulbasaur, Come Home!
|desc=Saur (フッシー ''Fusshī'') was accidentally switched to Red in the Red, Green, and Blue chapter as an {{p|Ivysaur}}. It was returned to him later. Saur was once again traded to Red, as a {{p|Venusaur}} this time, in exchange for Blue's Charizard in the Trainer Tower in the FireRed LeafGreen chapter. Saur was once again traded back to Red in exchange for Charizard in Vermilion City at the end of the chapter.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Poli
|trainer=Red
|pkmn=Poliwrath
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|type2=Fighting
|img=Poli.png
|epnum=PS001
|epname=A Glimpse of the Glow
|desc=Poli (ニョロ ''Nyoro'') is a {{p|Poliwrath}} who was accidentally switched. However, it was returned to Red.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Pika
|trainer=Red
|pkmn=Pikachu
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=Pika.png
|epnum=PS004
|epname=Wanted: Pikachu!
|desc=Pika (ピカ ''Pika'') is a {{p|Pikachu}} who was accidentally switched. However, it was returned to Red.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Lapras
|type1=Water
|type2=Ice
|img=Blue Lapras Adventures.png
|epnum=PS050
|epname=Lapras Lazily
|desc=While {{m|Surf}}ing on a {{p|Golduck}}, Blue comes across a {{p|Lapras}} at sea. He catches the Lapras. A kid comes up to him and asks for the Lapras. Blue is reluctant at first but gives it to him in ''[[PS052|Growing Out of Gengar]]''.

Lapras's known moves are {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Mist}}, {{m|Water Gun}} and {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Koga
|pkmn=Golbat
|type1=Poison
|type2=Flying
|img=Blue Golbat Adventures.png
|epnum=PS014
|epname=That Awful Arbok
|desc=Blue stole this {{p|Golbat}} from [[Koga]] after he was defeated at Silph Co. It was returned to him on Cerise Island.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Green
|pkmn=Zapdos
|type1=Electric
|type2=Flying
|img=Blue Zapdos Adventures.png
|epnum=PS173
|epname=The Last Battle VII
|desc=Blue borrowed {{p|Zapdos}} from {{adv|Green}} when things got rough. He gave it back to her when things were back to normal. Green returned it in its Poké Ball and it was not seen again.}}

===Status Unknown===
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Blue
|pkmn=Venomoth
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Venomoth Adventures.png
|epnum=PS003
|epname=The Secret of Kangaskhan!
|desc=Blue mentioned that he had a {{p|Venomoth}}. However, it is unknown if he still uses it.}}

==Trivia==
*Blue and {{adv|Green}} are the only main Pokémon Adventures characters whose names were changed for the English translation. This is due to the complexity of [[Generation I]]'s game releases, where in Japan, Red Version was paired with Green Version (leaving Blue as the third), and in the rest of the world Red was paired with Blue (while there was no Green). This name change is present in both the [[VIZ Media]] and [[Chuang Yi]] translations. His {{ga|Blue|game counterpart}} is also named Blue in the English translation of [[Generation II]]'s games.
** A panel in the original VIZ printing of [[Pokémon Adventures volume 3|volume 3]] forgets to make this change, however. When the Pokémon League scoreboard is shown, Red's rival is identified as "GREEN" and {{adv|Green}} is identified as "BLUE". This error was still present in the "[[The Best of Pokémon Adventures#Red volume|Best of Pokémon Adventures]]" compilation volume, but was corrected for the 2009 second edition.
* Although {{adv|Silver}} is the Pokédex holder whose special skill is Pokémon trading, Blue tops out the roster amongst the Dex Holders with four Pokémon that have evolved via trade. They are his Alakazam, Porygon2, Scizor, and Machamp. Additionally, both his Rhydon and Porygon2 are capable of evolving another time with trade, and he has personally asked of Silver to research on the matter as he found out Rhydon could evolve a second time in Giovanni's book ''The Mysteries of the Earth''. Meanwhile, the most Pokémon evolving via trade owned by other protagonists are one Pokémon. Gold's [[Polibo|Politoed]], Silver's {{p|Kingdra}}, and Yellow's {{p|Golem}}.
*Both the Japanese and Chinese print show that [[Professor Oak]] is Blue's paternal grandfather.
*Blue is one of three Pokédex holders to have known a surname; the other two are {{adv|Sapphire}} and {{adv|Platinum}}. Coincidentally, all three are related to someone involved in the field of Pokémon research. Blue to [[Professor Oak]], Sapphire to [[Professor Birch]], and Platinum to the assistant of [[Professor Rowan]]. Out of the three, Blue is the only male, and a grandchild, rather than a daughter like the other two.
*Blue's birthday is November 22nd.

==In other languages==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{blue color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{green color}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Japanese
|グリーン ''Green''
|From [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Pokémon Green]] game.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|English
|Blue
|From [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Pokémon Blue]] game.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|French
|Régis
|Same as {{Gary}}'s French name.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|German
|Gary
|Same as anime's {{Gary}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Korean
|그린 ''Green''
|From [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Pokémon Green]] game.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Chinese
|小茂 ''Xiǎo Maò''
|Same as {{Gary}}'s Chinese name.
|}{{-}}

==External links==
*[http://netkun.com/pockemon/character/green/green.html Netkun on Blue, known as Green] (Japanese)
*[http://netkun.com/pockemon/character/new_green/new_green_2005.html Netkun on FR/LG Blue, known as Green] (Japanese)

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